PG Indy - Bucks Fade Away

[AussieBuck]

Nope. We will talk in summer 2026.

That's a long time off. Reckon the Bulls will be good any time in the interim?

[Badgerlander]

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[randy84]

We are now 1-3 this year against Indiana, why hasn't he adjusted yet?

Yeah, he should have told Giannis to score 65 this time!

Or maybe not give up 122 points to a team who was under 15% from 3, it shouldn't take a heroic effort from Giannis to beat the Pacers

Don't the Pacers average 126 points a game?

[JayMKE]

Think Im with the people saying we need a point of attack defender maybe more than 1, not ever going to work with Beasley and Lillard

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

its been so hard to post this year on the board.... theres just so many aspects of this team that i cant stand..... most of those aspects are things related to what teams do or dont do that **** with how proud you are to even call yourself a fan.....

as ive said previously weve certainly entered a time that will become more difficult and more difficult as time moves along. the idea we need to fast forward to the playoffs is comical to me. for as much fun as is practically possible it would be far better to live in denial for as long as possible imo.

[paulpressey25]

its been so hard to post this year on the board.... theres just so many aspects of this team that i cant stand..... most of those aspects are things related to what teams do or dont do that **** with how proud you are to even call yourself a fan.....

as ive said previously weve certainly entered a time that will become more difficult and more difficult as time moves along. the idea we need to fast forward to the playoffs is comical to me. for as much fun as is practically possible it would be far better to live in denial for as long as possible imo.

Of the same mind. On the positive note, Dame, Beasley and an offensively healthy Middleton are providing spacing and shooting the Bucks have badly needed for years.

But on defense, we have no idea what we’re doing. And teams know our playbook, and guys waltz into the paint nightly, forcing Brook to take on constant 2 on 1’s, while Giannis sits off to the side. These problems go well beyond personnel.

[ABucksFan]

This year is so weird, I, like most, was really positive and looking forward to watching every game this year...but complete opposite has happened. A chore to watch honestly, I've found myself wanting to do other things than watch the Bucks..which is weird because when we were bad, i felt like i was watching every game lol.

[theFireBlanket]

1/13

[raferfenix]

Yeah I just don’t understand how we can keep running with a scheme where our interior defense is so bad despite how we have Lopez and Giannis.

Shocker: relying on Dame and Beasley and Middleton to aggressively defend the perimeter is failing.

[rayallenscalves]

Need more Marjon and AJ, much less Pat and AJax.

[pifhluk23]

Plenty of reasons for this loss. Bench terrible, so were starters down the stretch. Dame ice cold. Rebounding and defense blew. Yada yada yada. Our last PG thread (a win) was 6 pages. I’m guessing this one will be longer lol.

Also, yeah its definitely a "winning hides a lot" thing here too. Certainly wasn't like we lost 3 quarters of that game, gave up 64 points in the paint, had 17 turnovers and won a game against a team without 2 of their starters. But if we brought it up in that game thread we'd be called miserable. Team has problems. They're more glaring and quantifiable in the losses but they've been there all season even in most wins.

Board is about to learn the truth this month since we finally play some decent teams.

[Matches Malone]

Feels like Griff could have used Jrue and Bud could have used Dame lol.

[emunney]

Slept on it, and it's insane to lose to the Pacers when they shoot that badly from 3. Worst loss of the season.

[German Athens]

I get not being able to stop Haliburton. He’s a superstar offensive player. My issue is that he wasn’t the pacer that changed the game - it was McConnell.

We couldn’t stop McConnell. Maybe we shouldn’t press a dude high who doesn’t shoot outside 15 feet if we can’t recover. Go under every screen, play him soft on the perimeter - don’t allow him to waltz to the rim every time down.

We play high, get caught on the screen, and it allows a 2 on 1 going downhill from 20 feet and in. The lanes are huge.

[ABucksFan]

Maybe it will be one of those years where we suck and look underwhelming the regular season, but somehow come playoff time something happens and team becomes elite and we win a championship, similar to Heat last year

[pifhluk23]

I get not being able to stop Haliburton. He’s a superstar offensive player. My issue is that he wasn’t the pacer that changed the game - it was McConnell.

We couldn’t stop McConnell. Maybe we shouldn’t press a dude high who doesn’t shoot outside 15 feet if we can’t recover. Go under every screen, play him soft on the perimeter - don’t allow him to waltz to the rim every time down.

We play high, get caught on the screen, and it allows a 2 on 1 going downhill from 20 feet and in. The lanes are huge.

Same story all year pressing guards who can't shoot 3s at even a league average rate out past the 3pt line. That's all on Grief and how it hasn't been fixed yet is just mind blowing. McConnell is shooting .091% from 3 this year, that's not a typo and he passed up several open 3 looks because he's scared. Totally incompetent coaching.

[German Athens]

I get not being able to stop Haliburton. He’s a superstar offensive player. My issue is that he wasn’t the pacer that changed the game - it was McConnell.

We couldn’t stop McConnell. Maybe we shouldn’t press a dude high who doesn’t shoot outside 15 feet if we can’t recover. Go under every screen, play him soft on the perimeter - don’t allow him to waltz to the rim every time down.

We play high, get caught on the screen, and it allows a 2 on 1 going downhill from 20 feet and in. The lanes are huge.

Same story all year pressing guards who can't shoot 3s at even a league average rate out past the 3pt line. That's all on Grief and how it hasn't been fixed yet is just mind blowing. McConnell is shooting .091% from 3 this year, that's not a typo and he passed up several open 3 looks because he's scared. Totally incompetent coaching.

Yeah, for a team that’s supposed to watch a lot of film and know their opponents better than anyone - why are we doing this repeatedly against very well known commodities?

[Ron Swanson]

Whelp, this is probably the first loss I think the "Lillard and Beas backcourt is almost single-handedly tanking the defense" crowd can point to and actually be right. But once again, we got outrebounded and Bobby gets played off the floor. Pacers don't seem to be a great matchup for us defensively regardless of the perimeter personnel, and maybe we need Crowder back to unlock that lineup, but Griff hasn't seemed to grasp that going small with Giannis at the 5 is probably the thing that needs to happen in closing lineups vs. them.

[PG Graveyard]

Jae might be our one hope. I was not too enthusiastic about him last year. But now I cling to the hope that he might be the X factor.

He is clearly a better defender than Dame or Beas. His offense is worse than Beas but perhaps not by much. Jae should be somewhat better than mjb in offense and defense. Jae will be better than ajj in offense and defense, and much better than aj in defense. Thanasis and Robin never play. Livingstone is not good. Pat unfortunately has deteriorated a lot; that is a very unexpected and sad development. So we have a hollowed bench.

Jae isn't anything but a small ball PF at this point. We need a guard.

I’m warming up to the Kris Dunn idea. Adding him and Jae to the bench would go a long way imo

[PG Graveyard]

Whelp, this is probably the first loss I think the "Lillard and Beas backcourt is almost single-handedly tanking the defense" crowd can point to and actually be right. But once again, we got outrebounded and Bobby gets played off the floor. Pacers don't seem to be a great matchup for us defensively regardless of the perimeter personnel, and maybe we need Crowder back to unlock that lineup, but Griff hasn't seemed to grasp that going small with Giannis at the 5 is probably the thing that needs to happen in closing lineups vs. them.

I don’t think he trusts our personal to do that and that makes these really spaced out teams like Indiana and Boston so tough for us to guard with Brook out there even though Brook is awesome 90 percent of the time