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Re: PG Nuggets: Former Champs Whip Current Champs

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:53 am
by randy84
Prez wrote:Gotta fire this one off before larger sample size + regression kills it for me lol.

Dame/Giannis/Brook have a +31.3 net rating since Griffin got fired. That #1 in the league out of 284 total 3-man lineups with 100+ minutes in that span.

Bucks are also 6th in the league in DRTG post Griffin firing. Doc/Joerger may have transformed this team.

Throw Beasley in there and they are at +31.8.

Re: PG Nuggets: Former Champs Whip Current Champs

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:54 am
by -Jragon-
Actually there was a poll... some of us voted for AJ to start during preseason.. I think I voted AJJ

Re: PG Nuggets: Former Champs Whip Current Champs

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:55 am
by KidA24
BUCKnation wrote:
Ruben Quevedo wrote:AJ Green is not just passable on defense, he’s a legitimately good perimeter defender. He stonewalled Clarkson in Utah several times when everyone else was getting cooked, and he walled off Murray tonight on at least one occasion. He’s a good athlete, moves his feet really well and shows his hands to the ref.

This kid can play.

Its been funny to see guys go at him and he just stays strong and stays in front of them.


He's okay one on one, he plays defense with his chest like Jrue. He still dies on screens almost as bad as Giannis.

Come playoffs he'll get targeted, hopefully he keeps improving.

Re: PG Nuggets: Former Champs Whip Current Champs

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:55 am
by -Jragon-
KidA24 wrote:
-Jragon- wrote:I think we're about to go on a run. I'll be a good boy; I won't post 8-1, 9-1, etc after each win.


Is this team more likely to win a title with Khris Middleton or Jae Crowder playing more minutes?



Lol

I choose not to answer that right now

Re: PG Nuggets: Former Champs Whip Current Champs

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:57 am
by GoldenAntlers
Karsenmitsche wrote:Can we please stop pretending this has anything to do with Pat Bev and nothing to do with the work the coaching staff has been doing? Transition approach on off/def alone is night and day difference. Communication/connectivity is something we haven't seen all year.
It can be both.

Re: PG Nuggets: Former Champs Whip Current Champs

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:01 am
by randy84
randy84 wrote:
Prez wrote:Gotta fire this one off before larger sample size + regression kills it for me lol.

Dame/Giannis/Brook have a +31.3 net rating since Griffin got fired. That #1 in the league out of 284 total 3-man lineups with 100+ minutes in that span.

Bucks are also 6th in the league in DRTG post Griffin firing. Doc/Joerger may have transformed this team.

Throw Beasley in there and they are at +31.8.


Throw in a 5-man lineup of Lopez, Giannis, Crowder, Dame, and Beasley minimum 50 mins and they are a +58.2.
Next closest is Curry, Green, Podziemski, Kuminga, and Wiggins at +37.5.

Re: PG Nuggets: Former Champs Whip Current Champs

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:07 am
by Plossum
randy84 wrote:Image

Continues.

Is this the new Aqua Dagger?

Re: PG Nuggets: Former Champs Whip Current Champs

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:13 am
by Ruben Quevedo
BUCKnation wrote:
Ruben Quevedo wrote:AJ Green is not just passable on defense, he’s a legitimately good perimeter defender. He stonewalled Clarkson in Utah several times when everyone else was getting cooked, and he walled off Murray tonight on at least one occasion. He’s a good athlete, moves his feet really well and shows his hands to the ref.

This kid can play.

Its been funny to see guys go at him and he just stays strong and stays in front of them.


Yes. We’ll see how he does against better players but so far he’s been anything but a liability 1 v 1

Re: PG Nuggets: Former Champs Whip Current Champs

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:15 am
by Plossum
AJ will prob struggle against bigger, skilled 2s like Brown but he competes hard and is generally in the right spots on D.

As teams start to pay attention, he'll need to work on attacking close-outs and being able to hit a tough layup/floater or dish to guys in the dunker spot. But he can play.

Re: PG Nuggets: Former Champs Whip Current Champs

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:16 am
by old skool
Quality win!

Best win I've seen this season.

The defense seemed to rattle Denver on multiple possessions. Felt like the Budenholzer years. For those who can remember that long ago.

Re: PG Nuggets: Former Champs Whip Current Champs

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:17 am
by Ruben Quevedo
KidA24 wrote:
BUCKnation wrote:
Ruben Quevedo wrote:AJ Green is not just passable on defense, he’s a legitimately good perimeter defender. He stonewalled Clarkson in Utah several times when everyone else was getting cooked, and he walled off Murray tonight on at least one occasion. He’s a good athlete, moves his feet really well and shows his hands to the ref.

This kid can play.

It’s been funny to see guys go at him and he just stays strong and stays in front of them.



He's okay one on one, he plays defense with his chest like Jrue. He still dies on screens almost as bad as Giannis.

Come playoffs he'll get targeted, hopefully he keeps improving.


True. He doesn’t look comfortable navigating screens. He also has short arms, which is always an up hill battle for a defender.

But if he holds up in 1 v 1 situations then everything else is salvageable.

Re: PG Nuggets: Former Champs Whip Current Champs

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:20 am
by randy84
Since AG firing and with Crowder in the starting lineup, Bucks have the best Off Rating 136.9 and best Def Rating 78.8 in the NBA over that time span.

Re: PG Nuggets: Former Champs Whip Current Champs

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:26 am
by theFireBlanket
randy84 wrote:Since AG firing and with Crowder in the starting lineup, Bucks have the best Off Rating 136.9 and best Def Rating 78.8 in the NBA over that time span.


Crowder is cursed though.

Re: PG Nuggets: Former Champs Whip Current Champs

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:26 am
by Ruben Quevedo
Plossum wrote:AJ will prob struggle against bigger, skilled 2s like Brown but he competes hard and is generally in the right spots on D.

As teams start to pay attention, he'll need to work on attacking close-outs and being able to hit a tough layup/floater or dish to guys in the dunker spot. But he can play.


He has a quick release and a high release. I’d tell him to let it rip in rhythm. If a defender really tries to bother his shot he’ll be at high risk of fouling him.

Re: PG Nuggets: Former Champs Whip Current Champs

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:30 am
by Brewhoopfan
ACGB wrote:The combined Dawg-ness of Pat Bev and Bobby might collapse into a neutron star and destroy the world.


Different Dawgs. Pat Bev acts crazy. BP might actually be crazy.

Re: PG Nuggets: Former Champs Whip Current Champs

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:30 am
by randy84
theFireBlanket wrote:
randy84 wrote:Since AG firing and with Crowder in the starting lineup, Bucks have the best Off Rating 136.9 and best Def Rating 78.8 in the NBA over that time span.


Crowder is cursed though.

So is Beasley so it must be one of those the whole is greater than the sum of its parts.

Re: PG Nuggets: Former Champs Whip Current Champs

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:09 am
by Lippo
I’ve won a lot of money betting on the Bucks when Kris is out…. Maybe a fluke… just sayin….

Re: PG Nuggets: Former Champs Whip Current Champs

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:22 am
by Plossum
Ruben Quevedo wrote:
Plossum wrote:AJ will prob struggle against bigger, skilled 2s like Brown but he competes hard and is generally in the right spots on D.

As teams start to pay attention, he'll need to work on attacking close-outs and being able to hit a tough layup/floater or dish to guys in the dunker spot. But he can play.


He has a quick release and a high release. I’d tell him to let it rip in rhythm. If a defender really tries to bother his shot he’ll be at high risk of fouling him.

I'm just to see an actual play run for him. Defender screened off ball then AJ curls for an open three.

Re: PG Nuggets: Former Champs Whip Current Champs

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:25 am
by MickeyDavis
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Re: PG Nuggets: Former Champs Whip Current Champs

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:28 am
by HKPackFan
Aj green continues to show value on both ends of the floor.

PBev bump seems to be a thing. There's an uptick on Defensive pressure and Bobby seems to increase his energy when they are on the floor together.

Pbev also high bbiq and runs things better than cam payne, massive difference.

Team overall looks more cohesive the more days they are in Doc's system.

Giannis and Dame looked better together than they have for most of the season. I feel like with the right coaching they are starting to gel.

Giannis had a great full body screen on Dame's 4pt play. Did you see it?? No slip screen. Got a body on a guy and let Dame do his thing.


Lots of positives, and signs that this team can become much more. More time together, more cohesion, continue working together and this team could be the juggernaut we envisioned 4+ months ago.