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If they end up keeping #22, then Kevin McCullar is probably the best bet for grabbing an immediate impact rookie in the 20-30 range. You just have to hope as a 5th year senior, he's a legitimate late-bloomer as opposed to a mirage year guy, ala Chris Duarte.

This dude reminds me of Midds.

Stupid loser Pelicans

emunney wrote:BTW, didn't like Ron Holland as a prospective #1 overall pick, but if his stock has taken a Michael Porter-like hit and we could go up and get him, that'd be very good.

Or Cody Williams?

I hope we do not trade the picks away. Time to get younger and get rid some of the crappy vets.

Going to co-sign Ron on Kyshawn George. Give me that highly skilled late blooming 6-8 guard.

After being hammered on the boards last night , give me a big that can play d and rebound! Don't follow college much anymore , anybody have a idea who would be available at that spot for us!

emunney wrote:Going to co-sign Ron on Kyshawn George. Give me that highly skilled late blooming 6-8 guard.

We'd have to move up to get him, but he's the guy. He's the late lottery steal, like SGA, Jalen Williams. He'll play earlier than expected too, because he can hit 3s.

Mtsportsfan wrote:After being hammered on the boards last night , give me a big that can play d and rebound! Don't follow college much anymore , anybody have a idea who would be available at that spot for us!

Daron Holmes II from Dayton would be ideal. 6'10 athletic big who provides rim protection, rebounding and can step out and score.

https://youtu.be/YrES_3MDdNo?si=fXw3iusSSvXqXA1Z

Milwaukee'sBEST wrote:

Mtsportsfan wrote:After being hammered on the boards last night , give me a big that can play d and rebound! Don't follow college much anymore , anybody have a idea who would be available at that spot for us!

Daron Holmes II from Dayton would be ideal. 6'10 athletic big who provides rim protection, rebounding and can step out and score.

https://youtu.be/YrES_3MDdNo?si=fXw3iusSSvXqXA1Z

I like his game, but I think that when he gets measured, it going to show that he's not a center. Still like him as a player though.

ShootingtheJ wrote:

Milwaukee'sBEST wrote:

Mtsportsfan wrote:After being hammered on the boards last night , give me a big that can play d and rebound! Don't follow college much anymore , anybody have a idea who would be available at that spot for us!

Daron Holmes II from Dayton would be ideal. 6'10 athletic big who provides rim protection, rebounding and can step out and score.

https://youtu.be/YrES_3MDdNo?si=fXw3iusSSvXqXA1Z

I like his game, but I think that when he gets measured, it going to show that he's not a center. Still like him as a player though.

Idk, athleticism didn’t stand out in the tourney game that I watched. Looked like length was all that he had, and not a good defender.

Hard pass on Holmes. The traditional, offense-first PF archetype will never be a good fit alongside Giannis. If he was a better defender and had actual Center length (7'0.5 wingspan) I'd be more interested, but the last thing this team needs is a Bobby clone.

Ron Swanson wrote:If they end up keeping #22, then Kevin McCullar is probably the best bet for grabbing an immediate impact rookie in the 20-30 range. You just have to hope as a 5th year senior, he's a legitimate late-bloomer as opposed to a mirage year guy, ala Chris Duarte.

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He seems like a really good decision maker with the ball.

Right now a couple mocks I've seen has Devin Carter falling to us at 23, then Jaylon Tyson/Dillon Jones both available at 33. That's the dream draft right there that fills both our biggest needs (big defensive-minded PG, and two versatile big wings that can handle the ball).

Wish I hadn't looked at the Kyshawn George tape. Now I'm just gonna be mad that we don't get him.

Who else should I look at to get mad about?

Karsenmitsche wrote:Way too early for draft talk but Ryan Dunn might be the wing answer. Extreme athleticism and probably the best defender in the draft. Projected to go mid 20s.

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Pulling this over from the closed News thread.

Dunn is interesting and very well might be there when the Bucks pick in the first round. Outside shot that he'd be available for the second round, but probably not.

He certainly fits everyone's desire to get younger and more athletic. HOO BOY is he athletic and long. Ridiculous defender. Good kid and teammate, too.

The massive problem - and the reason he isn't a lottery pick - is that he has ZERO offensive game. None. Can't shoot, like really can't shoot. Magnitudes worse than Giannis. And for a guy who is as quick and athletic as he is, he has no handles, so he never puts the ball on the floor and drives to the basket. All of his points were on dunks, oops, putbacks, and layups. Even in situations where he got the ball a few feet from the basket, but was guarded, he had no ability to just put up a little shot off the glass or something. Runs the floor tremendously, but again, it's all to get dunks. If he got fouled on a transition attempt, he was making one free throw, max.

It was clearly a mental thing with him. His freshman year, he didn't get a ton of playing time, but did show some ability to hit threes and do more on offense. He supposedly had a good jumper in high school.

The good thing is, from reading some things he said after the season, he is well aware of his shortcomings and did admit it was a mental thing. Sounds like he's going to work really hard to improve his offensive game.

I honestly don't know what I would do if I were the Bucks and he's there at #23. He would be a wonderful addition with his elite athleticism, length, energy, and defensive skills. The kind of guy we need. But his complete absence of an offensive game would be tough to deal with. If he figures it out and becomes an adequate offensive player, he would be a steal in the late first round. Will be interesting to see how her performs at pre-draft camps, tryouts, etc.

I love his versatility but I think Dunn is a legitimately unplayable guy on offense in the pros. Like, Jared Vanderbilt/Andre Roberson level. If he were younger I'd feel a bit different, but turns 22 during his rookie year and he's still that raw offensively? Yikes. You can't have both him and Andre in your rotation with Giannis still on the team.

Ron Swanson wrote:I love his versatility but I think Dunn is a legitimately unplayable guy on offense in the pros. Like, Jared Vanderbilt/Andre Roberson level. If he were younger I'd feel a bit different, but turns 22 during his rookie year and he's still that raw offensively? Yikes. You can't have both him and Andre in your rotation with Giannis still on the team.

Agreed. He really is that bad on offense. Like I said, though, he knows that and believes it's a mental thing, so I'll be interested to see if he can shake some of that crud out of his system and regain that supposed "smooth stroke" he had in high school.

RogerMurdock wrote:

Karsenmitsche wrote:Way too early for draft talk but Ryan Dunn might be the wing answer. Extreme athleticism and probably the best defender in the draft. Projected to go mid 20s.

Watch on YouTube

Pulling this over from the closed News thread.

Dunn is interesting and very well might be there when the Bucks pick in the first round. Outside shot that he'd be available for the second round, but probably not.

He certainly fits everyone's desire to get younger and more athletic. HOO BOY is he athletic and long. Ridiculous defender. Good kid and teammate, too.

The massive problem - and the reason he isn't a lottery pick - is that he has ZERO offensive game. None. Can't shoot, like really can't shoot. Magnitudes worse than Giannis. And for a guy who is as quick and athletic as he is, he has no handles, so he never puts the ball on the floor and drives to the basket. All of his points were on dunks, oops, putbacks, and layups. Even in situations where he got the ball a few feet from the basket, but was guarded, he had no ability to just put up a little shot off the glass or something. Runs the floor tremendously, but again, it's all to get dunks. If he got fouled on a transition attempt, he was making one free throw, max.

It was clearly a mental thing with him. His freshman year, he didn't get a ton of playing time, but did show some ability to hit threes and do more on offense. He supposedly had a good jumper in high school.

The good thing is, from reading some things he said after the season, he is well aware of his shortcomings and did admit it was a mental thing. Sounds like he's going to work really hard to improve his offensive game.

I honestly don't know what I would do if I were the Bucks and he's there at #23. He would be a wonderful addition with his elite athleticism, length, energy, and defensive skills. The kind of guy we need. But his complete absence of an offensive game would be tough to deal with. If he figures it out and becomes an adequate offensive player, he would be a steal in the late first round. Will be interesting to see how her performs at pre-draft camps, tryouts, etc.

I think he fairs ok in comparison to a guy like Vanderbilt. I love the edge he plays with and of course the physical traits. Vanderbilt is more skilled, but it's not like he gets touches, so that difference probably doesn't matter much.

I also think we have to keep in mind that with guys like him, they don't need much skill to be effective. He can be an ehh ball handler and still kill guys off the dribble in a straight line because he's so long and explosive and aggressive at the rim.

I totally understand the concerns with him, but they wouldn't keep me from taking him in the lottery in this draft. He's a wow athlete and competitor. That can get you a long way.