Game 41: Bucks at Cavs - 1/17/24 - 6:30 - ESPN/BSWI - Giannis Out

blazza18 · Post #281 » by **blazza18** » Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:19 am

The defence is not improving and actually getting worse. Feel like Horst either fires Griffin (preferred outcome) or doubles down on him and trades guys that fit what he wants to do better.

mediocrityrules · Post #282 » by **mediocrityrules** » Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:19 am

Crowder should be getting minutes.

-Jragon- · Post #283 » by **-Jragon-** » Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:19 am

Liv looks like reincarnated Jrue... someone teach him how to shoot 3s quick

Dick Tate · Post #284 » by **Dick Tate** » Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:20 am

Magic Giannison wrote:Cavs also miss 2 of their starters arent they ?

Apparently not.

rilamann · Post #285 » by **rilamann** » Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:20 am

mediocrityrules wrote:
rilamann wrote:
PG Graveyard wrote:Give Mids the rest of this one off. He’s cooked tonight

Middleton is just cooked in general.

He'll have a decent game from time to time, but if we can get any sort of value for him we need to pull the trigger ASAP. Middleton is an all time Buck, but it's time to move on.

Midds is just a 3rd banana these days. If he's the focal point on O that's a problem. If he's running with Giannis and Dame and he's option 3, then he has value. Hiding him on D is harder, but he's not on his own there.

Middleton is an inconsistent meh 3rd banana on a team with two top 75 players and he's a guy who looks like he's stuck in quicksand defensively. You could probably still get decent value for him if you trade him before the deadline. I'd be trying like hell to get something for him before the deadline because his value will be toast beyond this season.

fan230 · Post #286 » by **fan230** » Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:21 am

Shows a few things:
1) The greatness of Giannis.
2) we need some different players but we are really limited on that potential.
3) Neutrally speaking, we need a better coach. There is little doubt left about that. When every one is playing poorly, the coach clearly is a problem

Magic Giannison · Post #287 » by **Magic Giannison** » Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:21 am

Chad34 wrote:anyone who doesn't respect giannis game, is just a hater, he's been making near lottery teams contenders for awhile. MVP

I think majority in here knows how many weaknesses Giannis covers but this is really REALLY worrying.

How the heck the coaching staff and co. didnt at least see some of the major problems we have?

tydett · Post #288 » by **tydett** » Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:21 am

blazza18 wrote:The defence is not improving and actually getting worse. Feel like Horst either fires Griffin (preferred outcome) or doubles down on him and trades guys that fit what he wants to do better.

Feels like Horst either fires Griff or they ride the same train out of town at season's end.

nagawicka · Post #289 » by **nagawicka** » Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:22 am

GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
pifhluk23 wrote:
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:the conversation continues to remain fluid. the question is once again... are we sucking tonight? or is it just that we suck?

We suck. Anyone who convinced themselves that the Celtics Warriors Kings game were good wins is 100% delusional or just doesn't pay attention at all.

yep. of course.

still have giannis tho. need to act fast

So weird, only yesterday ppl were demanding we all agree tha bucks have a championship roster.

Chad34 · Post #290 » by **Chad34** » Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:22 am

blazza18 wrote:The defence is not improving and actually getting worse. Feel like Horst either fires Griffin (preferred outcome) or doubles down on him and trades guys that fit what he wants to do better.

hopefully the former

Matches Malone · Post #291 » by **Matches Malone** » Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:22 am

blazza18 wrote:The defence is not improving and actually getting worse. Feel like Horst either fires Griffin (preferred outcome) or doubles down on him and trades guys that fit what he wants to do better.

I'm expecting a double-down, getting players that "fit" better, and then Griff will have them playing stupid and we'll probably end up wasting a player like Brook who looks like ass guarding the perimeter, but a team will use him at the rim and he'll probably look good again.

rilamann · Post #292 » by **rilamann** » Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:22 am

mediocrityrules wrote:Crowder should be getting minutes.

The one silver lining in this game is you can basically use it as a preseason game for Crowder.

stellation · Post #293 » by **stellation** » Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:22 am

It’s only 41 points!

Ryan5UW · Post #294 » by **Ryan5UW** » Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:22 am

Magic Giannison · Post #295 » by **Magic Giannison** » Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:23 am

blazza18 wrote:The defence is not improving and actually getting worse. Feel like Horst either fires Griffin (preferred outcome) or doubles down on him and trades guys that fit what he wants to do better.

If we fire him which i hope we do who we got to hire?

It feels like we are throwing another ear to the bin and our time is closing FAST

-Jragon- · Post #296 » by **-Jragon-** » Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:23 am

I'd like to see our bench not look like trash.. too much to ask

ackypoo · Post #297 » by **ackypoo** » Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:24 am

blazza18 wrote:The defence is not improving and actually getting worse. Feel like Horst either fires Griffin (preferred outcome) or doubles down on him and trades guys that fit what he wants to do better.

we dont have assets to make trades that will make this team better.

short of trading middleton, or dame.

nagawicka · Post #298 » by **nagawicka** » Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:24 am

bucksfansince88 · Post #299 » by **bucksfansince88** » Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:26 am

Defensive Identity is we don’t get back in transition and can’t guard the perimeter at all

Chad34 · Post #300 » by **Chad34** » Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:26 am

Magic Giannison wrote:
Chad34 wrote:anyone who doesn't respect giannis game, is just a hater, he's been making near lottery teams contenders for awhile. MVP

I think majority in here knows how many weaknesses Giannis covers but this is really REALLY worrying.

How the heck the coaching staff and co. didnt at least see some of the major problems we have?

Giannis has always covered bad gm-ing etc, nationally people don't realize Giannis greatness, they just see inflated numbers from guys like(fill in the blank) who giannis gravity makes look better