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Post#21 » by 75totheMACCfund » Thu Jan 3, 2008 6:10 am

Simulack wrote:http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=428568

Here's a particularly good Harris thread from 2 seasons ago. There are also a few proclaiming him GM of the year.

(Not trying to call anyone out in particular; we all say things that look stupid or inconsistent in the future. It's just amazing how the opinion has turned so quickly in a year and a half.)


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Post#22 » by Simulack » Thu Jan 3, 2008 6:11 am

Fixed.

Whew, I was afraid when I eventually did post a wrong link on these forums it was going to be A LOT more embarrassing than that.
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Post#23 » by MilBucksBackOnTop06 » Thu Jan 3, 2008 7:26 am

emunney wrote:Does it matter who the GM is if Kohl will only sign off on his worst ideas?
Or Kohl won't sign off on his costly but great ones (ie. Boozer, Marion, etc.) that could lead to title contention.
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Post#24 » by WEFFPIM » Thu Jan 3, 2008 7:27 am

MilBucksBackOnTop06 wrote:Or Kohl won't sign off on his costly but great ones (ie. Boozer, Marion, etc.) that could lead to title contention.


Do you even know if anything was in place?
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Post#25 » by trwi7 » Thu Jan 3, 2008 7:32 am

willeatfire4playoffsinmil wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Do you even know if anything was in place?


GAD has said many times that Boozer and Marion deals were on the table and Kohl rejected them. Pay attention weffpim, you may learn something. :wink:
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Post#26 » by GrandAdmiralDan » Thu Jan 3, 2008 7:33 am

Chuck Diesel wrote:Also GAD can correct me on this, but I don
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Nick Van Exel (LAL) on defending the Stockton-Malone pick-and-roll: "Yeah,
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Post#27 » by 75totheMACCfund » Thu Jan 3, 2008 7:47 am

i know you know that, but other people on this board probably have no clue who "steinmiller" is and so knowing you'd provide a much better explanation as to why he shouldn't be fired based on his work than I would, I provoked you and it worked. And therefore, John Steinmiller is an excellent NBA executive.
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Post#28 » by Chuck Diesel » Thu Jan 3, 2008 7:49 am

I think that small ball team would have actually netted us more wins. An argument could be made that the team would have been deeper and better suited for Terry Stotts. In hindsight I also think Joe Smith would have been a better complement to Bogut last year than Villanueva was. Health is obviously a huge variable there.

I also forgot about Harris
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Post#29 » by midranger » Thu Jan 3, 2008 7:49 am

GAD, do you have any knowledge of Kohl wanting TJ gone, or preferring Mo to TJ and forcing Harris's hand that way?
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Post#30 » by 75totheMACCfund » Thu Jan 3, 2008 7:58 am

Chuck Diesel wrote:I think that small ball team would have actually netted us more wins. An argument could be made that the team would have been deeper and better suited for Terry Stotts. In hindsight I also think Joe Smith would have been a better complement to Bogut last year than Villanueva was. Health is obviously a huge variable there.

I also forgot about Harris
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Post#31 » by dunleavyjr » Thu Jan 3, 2008 8:00 am

I wonder if you folks are interested in Tracy McGrady. Last I heard, he is not happy in Houston. How about giving up Redd for him?
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Post#32 » by 75totheMACCfund » Thu Jan 3, 2008 8:01 am

but lest not it be overlooked that Carlos Boozer was taken exactly one spot after Gadz in the 2002 draft during the second round. Quite a depressing side note.
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Post#33 » by 75totheMACCfund » Thu Jan 3, 2008 8:03 am

dunleavyjr wrote:I wonder if you folks are interested in Tracy McGrady. Last I heard, he is not happy in Houston. How about giving up Redd for him?




Redd + Simmons + CV

for Battier and T Mac

works in the trade checker, but it is quite a pipe dream for any bucks fan.
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Post#34 » by 75totheMACCfund » Thu Jan 3, 2008 8:06 am

Redd + Simmons + CV + top 3 protected 2008 1st

T Mac + Scola


Edit: T Mac is never healthy, but I'd rather the chance of him playing 60 games in a Bucks Uni than Redd playing all 82. That's just me though, and I don't think this trade or especially the one listed above would happen.
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Post#35 » by DH34Phan » Thu Jan 3, 2008 8:18 am

Drafting Paul or Williams #1 would have required a GM who was willing to completely think against the grain since Bogut and Williams were the consensus 1/2 picks.

Hey, God Colangelo in Toronto took Andrea Bargnani over Brandon Roy, Lamarcus Aldridge, and Rudy Gay. He was thinking outside the box.
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Post#36 » by DH34Phan » Thu Jan 3, 2008 8:21 am

Harris giving Gadz that deal rivals the Jerome James deal in New York.

One of the worst contracts in Milwaukee sports history.
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Post#37 » by paulpressey25 » Thu Jan 3, 2008 1:43 pm

It was great seeing that old thread from almost two years ago.....

I don't think anyone's opinions where that off base at that time. The 2005-06 team had a decent amount of talent on it. No superstars obviously, but much better than what we have now. And yet we only were able to get 40 wins out of it. That season I put on Stotts.

The problem Harris has is that his moves the last two years haven't produced any home runs or even a triple. Putting Yi aside (which required a painful tanking process) arguably his most effective "on court results" move since the time of that thread was bringing in Ruben, and we know how that ended up.

GM's can make a ton of bad moves and still be considered a good GM....they just need to hit on about two signature moves that acquire all-star players. Look at the Colangelo's and their Phoenix track record. They probably missed on a ton of moves in the last ten-years, but got those few hits that have allowed for success. For some reason, Kohl and whoever is GM have not ever been able to just get those couple major successes in 20-years.
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Post#38 » by GrandAdmiralDan » Thu Jan 3, 2008 2:47 pm

Chuck Diesel wrote:I also forgot about Harris
97-98

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I got a way to defend it. Bring a bat to the game and kill one of them."
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Post#39 » by BucksRuleAll22 » Thu Jan 3, 2008 5:30 pm

Kohl is to blame as much as LH. For anything to change they both have to go.
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Post#40 » by WEFFPIM » Thu Jan 3, 2008 5:45 pm

BucksRuleAll22 wrote:Kohl is to blame as much as LH. For anything to change they both have to go.


Agreed, but the issue is that if Kohl goes, and the team goes to someone more than likely outside the city, the team goes.
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