bayrdbandit wrote:Among league executives, there
Posted: Thu Jan 3, 2008 10:38 pm
by xTitan
midranger wrote:Kohl is insane.
Oversold him on Yi?
What the hell was he expecting? Shaq?
There is the major contradiction of the article....I agree, Kohl would have to know nothing about basketball to be disappointed in Yi, Oh wait a minute..................................
The other thing that didn't make sense is that Herbie felt oversold on YI, yet he must not feel to oversold if he is 1 of 2 players they wouldn't trade.
The other thing is Kohl and Harris never talk alot unless Kohl has something to bitch about, which this year is alot, the little lawyers do most of his talking.
Posted: Thu Jan 3, 2008 10:41 pm
by midranger
Maybe Harris oversold Herb on the amount of Chinese advertisments thay'd have in the BC by now. 1 is simply not enough. Tough to argue about the results on the court though. Yi is certainly a top-3 rookie thus far, with an argument that he's been the best.
Posted: Thu Jan 3, 2008 10:43 pm
by El Duderino
They even suggest that Kohl believes his GM oversold him on the talents of Yi, although most fair-minded executives and coaches have been impressed with the Chinese rookie
Posted: Thu Jan 3, 2008 10:48 pm
by midranger
Larry K spent the offseason working on the triangle, which he scraped about 5 games into the season.
Yi has had a very nice rookie year, garnering high praise from everyone.
Who is Kohl happier with?
The guy just needs to leave the team alone. Set a spending limit, and allow someone to operate within that limit.
Posted: Thu Jan 3, 2008 11:26 pm
by paulpressey25
I'd like to know who the source of this information is......
Especially this line :For now, Bucks officials have told others in the league that communication between Kohl and Harris has become scarce
If this reporter has legit information in his article, it certainly would fit the Bucks management dysfunction.
a) Team doesn't just stink but is an embarrassment to Kohl, especially after Monday's loss. (Remember how Herb fired Stotts after the Bogut finger game last year that was an embarrassment)
b) Kohl runs cold on Larry Harris....makes up his mind something will happen, just not now, so he cuts off talking with Larry because otherwise it would be uncomfortable to do so (this is typical though in most businesses....the guy on the way out, before he is formally let go, suddenly gets no interaction with senior management)
c) Kohl cabinet members leak to the media the trial balloon of Rick Sund....maybe in an effort to force Kohl to make a decision on Larry and force out Larry Harris. Maybe Kohl even asked one of them to talk to Sund this past week.
d) Michael Redd trade possibility gets leaked because the team can't just put him on the block directly for a number of political reasons.....so they leak out a trade rumor to see what happens... (I'm still betting that one was done by someone in the organization for a specific purpose)
It does all fit.....even the part about Kohl being dissapointed in Yi. Herb runs extremely hot and cold on people and players. It's highly plausible Kohl thinks Yi should be averaging 17ppg right now.....he's not a guy who likes to wait for things, hence all the trades, coaches, etc we've burned through.
Posted: Thu Jan 3, 2008 11:35 pm
by skones
LukePliska wrote:Could we get a list of what Rick Sund has done as a GM? Anyone have that information available?
I got you LP,
http://www.hoopshype.com/general_managers/rick_sund.htm
Among his Highlights:
The Ray Allen for GP Debacle
Traded Vladamir Radmanovic for Chris Wilcox
Other than that, not much else.....
Posted: Thu Jan 3, 2008 11:36 pm
by skones
LukePliska wrote:Could we get a list of what Rick Sund has done as a GM? Anyone have that information available?
I got you LP,
http://www.hoopshype.com/general_managers/rick_sund.htm
Among his Highlights:
The Ray Allen for GP Debacle
Traded Vladamir Radmanovic for Chris Wilcox
Other than that, not much else.....
Posted: Thu Jan 3, 2008 11:37 pm
by skones
LukePliska wrote:Could we get a list of what Rick Sund has done as a GM? Anyone have that information available?
I got you LP,
http://www.hoopshype.com/general_managers/rick_sund.htm
Among his Highlights:
The Ray Allen for GP Debacle
Traded Vladamir Radmanovic for Chris Wilcox
Other than that, not much else.....
Posted: Thu Jan 3, 2008 11:39 pm
by Ayt
I didn't catch that, Skones. Care to post it again?
Posted: Thu Jan 3, 2008 11:41 pm
by Newz
Those are both really good moves though.
Posted: Thu Jan 3, 2008 11:41 pm
by BrewersGM
LukePliska wrote:
Also... Doug Collins seems to be a great guy to bring in, a very smart basketball person.
I love listening to him when he broadcasts games. He knows his stuff! Just seems like he doesnt have the patience for some reason to go threw a season in that position.
Sad to hear Herb probably wouldn't have the money required to do so... But it would be nice to see.
He has the money, just doesnt want to spend it! He may have no choice...
Posted: Thu Jan 3, 2008 11:43 pm
by paulpressey25
This is a better link to what Sund is about:
http://www.sportsad.ohio.edu/sports/new ... ick00.html
Hiring him would fit Herb's MO perfectly. Sund was an organization favorite guy who got his start with the Bucks in the 1970's. He would be a "company guy" who would go along with whatever restrictions Kohl put on him.
Forget Seattle......Where he got more acclaim was working with the Dallas Mavericks in their early days of Mark Aquire, Jay Vincent, Brad Davis, Roy Tarpley, Rolando Blackman era......