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Re: 06/19 ESPN & DX.com Speculation

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:53 pm
by Sigra
LUKE23 wrote:Call me crazy, but I don't think CV/Alexander/Mason's expiring for Prince or RJ is that great of a deal for us if that is indeed what goes down.


Alot of you guys are going to be disappointed come draft night... :wink:

Re: 06/19 ESPN & DX.com Speculation

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:57 pm
by NeedsMoreCheese
How is it that the one guy that can actually read between the lines and figure out what Wichmae is talking about is the one that isnt a native speaker of English? Im amazed by that.
At least someone picked up on Wichmaes hints nice job Sigra.

Re: 06/19 ESPN & DX.com Speculation

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:59 pm
by xTitan
The Bucks won't trade up...more likely to deal out...that's my prediction;).

Re: 06/19 ESPN & DX.com Speculation

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:01 pm
by paulpressey25
Sigra is a brilliant dude. He saw the Michael Redd Godfather thing a year ahead of time.

I can't go all the way back but who was the poster that wichmae quoted and what was his deal?

Re: 06/19 ESPN & DX.com Speculation

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:03 pm
by Sigra
xTitan wrote:The Bucks won't trade up...more likely to deal out...that's my prediction;).


:) and you are the guy that wichmae talked privatly so you know the truth. Deal out it is indeed

Re: 06/19 ESPN & DX.com Speculation

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:06 pm
by randy84
xTitan wrote:The Bucks won't trade up...more likely to deal out...that's my prediction;).



I hope you are right. I mean if we have to wait five years for Alexander to develop into a good role player, its going to be a long rebuilding process.

I would prefer to go with Bogut, Yi, Prince, Redd, and Mo, or better yet Bogut, Yi, G.Wallace, Redd and Mo.

I could actually watch those teams.

Re: 06/19 ESPN & DX.com Speculation

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:07 pm
by Sigra
paulpressey25 wrote:I can't go all the way back but who was the poster that wichmae quoted and what was his deal?


The poster was aaprigs311 and he said this: "Trade Mo/CV for a banger. I think that's our best shot at contending now rather than down the road. I think we've all had enough of the waiting game. I hope whatever trade is made helps us NOW."

wichmae bolded this "I hope whatever trade is made helps us NOW"

Re: 06/19 ESPN & DX.com Speculation

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:10 pm
by europa
Trading for a proven vet has been my No. 1 hope for the draft since lotto night. If Ilhan is correct and wichmae is talking about a trade involving the 8th pick and a player like Prince or Jefferson I'm driving the bandwagon there.

Villanueva/8/Dez for Prince/29

All aboard. :)

Re: 06/19 ESPN & DX.com Speculation

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:14 pm
by randy84
europa wrote:Trading for a proven vet has been my No. 1 hope for the draft since lotto night. If Ilhan is correct and wichmae is talking about a trade involving the 8th pick and a player like Prince or Jefferson I'm driving the bandwagon there.

Villanueva/8/Dez for Prince/29

All aboard. :)



Giddyup

Re: 06/19 ESPN & DX.com Speculation

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:15 pm
by mcfromage
I'd prefer CV/Dez/8 for RJ/21 then take Speights or Douglas-Roberts at 21.

Re: 06/19 ESPN & DX.com Speculation

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:17 pm
by europa
mcfromage wrote:I'd prefer CV/Dez/8 for RJ/21 then take Speights or Douglas-Roberts at 21.


I'd prefer Prince because he's significantly better defensively but I'd sign off on this trade as well. Either one would work for me.

Re: 06/19 ESPN & DX.com Speculation

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:19 pm
by paulpressey25
I'll take Prince over RJ. Healthier and a better defender.

Re: 06/19 ESPN & DX.com Speculation

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:20 pm
by xTitan
Sigra wrote:
xTitan wrote:The Bucks won't trade up...more likely to deal out...that's my prediction;).


:) and you are the guy that wichmae talked privatly so you know the truth. Deal out it is indeed


Not all of my old people are gone my friend :wink: ....actually anything can happen at this point....sooooooo many people want to deal, just a gut feeling that this team needs vets to win and I think Hammond wants to win now......now if everyone likes the deals being bantered about, thats another story.

Re: 06/19 ESPN & DX.com Speculation

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:25 pm
by Chapter29
Nice posts Sigra!

It will be interesting to look at come Thursday night.

I tend to agree that a trade of our pick and a player is very likely. I have been in favor of that from the get go. Whether its to move up and take a shot at a player or to take an established veteran.

CV, 8 and Mason for Prince? Hmmmm.

At first I was like, duh. Then I thought about it and just for grins took a look at his stats. They really aren't that good. Now I know he is a good player and a great defender, but man that's quite a bit to give up. Not sure. I really like Prince and in the end he is likely the best player in the deal. An ideal fit for us.

Re: 06/19 ESPN & DX.com Speculation

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:27 pm
by fam3381
mcfromage wrote:I'd prefer CV/Dez/8 for RJ/21 then take Speights or Douglas-Roberts at 21.


I'd be very disappointed if we take on RJ's big contract without dumping any of our bad contracts. That deal's a no-brainer for the Nets IMO, and puts us in the luxury tax in 09/10 probably.

Re: 06/19 ESPN & DX.com Speculation

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:30 pm
by paulpressey25
I can't see it being Tayshaun. It seems like both guys (Dumars/Hammond) would not necessarily want Hammond's first deal to be with each other. And in the same division. The pick/Dez/Simmons for RJ could be plausible IMO.

Re: 06/19 ESPN & DX.com Speculation

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:31 pm
by steger_3434
I have mixed feeling on Prince. For one we are beyond horrible at the SF position and Prince is a good defender. On the other hand, though, I think Prince's play is overrated by the team he's on. That team is laced with strong veterans in Billups, Sheed, and McDyss. The team as a whole is good defensive team, which more than likely makes Prince a better defender than he actually is. Put him with this sorry ass team and his D won't seem quite as good.

Re: 06/19 ESPN & DX.com Speculation

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:32 pm
by europa
I don't think a trade for Prince will happen either. I agree it's unlikely Dumars and Hammond would make a major move like that with one another. But it's fun to dream.

Re: 06/19 ESPN & DX.com Speculation

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:34 pm
by paulpressey25
I'd really prefer to go after Josh Howard. He can defend and fill it up.

For a trade that would probably tick most everyone off here in some respect one might be Redd/8 for Josh Howard/Stackhouse/Brandon Bass.

Re: 06/19 ESPN & DX.com Speculation

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:35 pm
by xTitan
Hammond has said a couple times he would not feel comfortable dealing with Joe at this point in time and I understand that completely. I also think that Dumars wants to make a big splash if he deals Prince and the Bucks don't have that big splash player.