Bogut:5-yr/$60mm Guaranteed + $12.5mm possible bonuses (OLD)

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

Ah, I remember this thread

[LUKE23]

If Bogut continues his current level of play, his contract will not only be fair, but a damn good value.

[Newz]

If Bogut continues his current level of play, his contract will not only be fair, but a damn good value.

I wasn't a fan of it at the beginning and I still don't like the incentives, because I still don't think they were necessary...

But he is outplaying his contract at the moment.

[verticalhops]

If Bogut continues his current level of play, his contract will not only be fair, but a damn good value.

Agreed. Hoping this thread will have attached asap that this was posted 2 years ago. Makes it sound like we are questioning if he is worth it.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

Anyone know the incentives yet?

I can't remember exactly but it was a bunch of 500k bonuses that would be worth it; named starter on the all-star team, played in NBA Finals, named finals MVP, etc

[LockDownD]

what happened to the "we should have waited till he became a RFA, then this back injury would have depressed the market" talk?

[raferfenix]

So let's say we didn't sign him to this deal----how much money is Bogut getting this summer, and what teams would be chasing him?

I think the Heat at least would have gone all out, and we would have been awfully screwed either from losing him or having to max him out. Glad we do not need to deal with that drama!

[LUKE23]

So let's say we didn't sign him to this deal----how much money is Bogut getting this summer, and what teams would be chasing him?

I think the Heat at least would have gone all out, and we would have been awfully screwed either from losing him or having to max him out. Glad we do not need to deal with that drama!

We likely would have signed him summer of 2009 instead of summer 2008. If he got to this summer as a FA that would have meant that he accepted his QO to go to UFA, which I don't think we ever would have let happen, since at that point he's up for grabs with several teams having cap space.

[crkone]

If Bogut continues his current level of play, his contract will not only be fair, but a damn good value.

Agreed. Hoping this thread will have attached asap that this was posted 2 years ago. Makes it sound like we are questioning if he is worth it.

Why can't people look under the title to see the date? Why would it matter if we were questioning his worth?

[europa]

I'm glad this got down now. That was my hope. It made sense to get Bogut locked up now and be done with it rather than open the door for any possibility down the road. He's a player whose game showed significant improvement in the last 50 games of the season, he's the only returning key player who's an impact player on both ends of the court and there's every reason to believe his game will continue to improve going forward.

Since this is Pat Yourself On The Back If You Always Believed In Bogut Day ...

Very nice job with this one John.

[Nebula1]

How bout a game thread instead of bumped threads?

[Ayt]

Isn't this money crazy for him? What does he do exceptionally well, rebound,shoot or play D?

He was 9th in blocked shots last year and he's been in the top 3 in charges taken since coming to the NBA. His man D took a huge step up last season to the point that you could call him a very solid man defender against both centers and most PFs. He finished 12th in rebounds per game.

He's a good athlete for his position, has good hands, and he's a smart player, so he can get himself open for easy dunks or layups (too bad we have so many bad passers on our team). He's a very good passer. His post game is developing, with his favorite move being the left handed baby hook. He's starting to develop some counter moves off of that as well. He struggled last year when teams started to double him, but that was completely new to him on the NBA level. He has no jump shot.

He's still only 23. Post All-Star last year the ball started to actually go to him in the post much more often and he ended up averaging 16-12-3 with 1.7 blocks after the break.

Apparently I liked the deal.

High five, europa!

[Sigra]

60 M is good deal. Can't wait to see what he has to do to get that bonuses. I agree with fam that I hope it is FT%, rebounds and team wins. I would also add blocked shots.

Bogut at C >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okafor at C

Bogut is better offansive player:
-more moves (Okafor has only dunks while Bogut has hook shots as well)
-can use both hands (Okafor has only right hand)
-great passer and see his teamates (Okafor black hole and no passing ability)
-has to be doubleteamed (nobody doubleteam Okafor)
-can create his own shoot (Okafor score when somebody penetrate and pass to him)
-can put ball down and dribble around his defender (Okafor has no ball control in dribling)
both are bad free throw shoters and with bad jumper too

Bogut is also better defender (talking about C position only):
-Bigger with size of real C and therefore good man defender against most Cs including Howard (Okafor big defansive liabilty against other Cs - same as Amare)
-Draw charges together with blocking shots (Okafor only block shots)

Bogut is also younger with better health

High fives guys

[rilamann]

It goes like this.

Andrew Bogut is the type of player who can be a monster on a good team.

John Hammond is going to make the Bucks a good team.


Bogut will be worth the money.

Just watch and see.

[AussieBuck]

Damn I should scroll through this two year old thread to see if there is evidence that I got something right once.

[Ayt]

Damn I should scroll through this two year old thread to see if there is evidence that I got something right once.

High five!

[AussieBuck]

Damn I should scroll through this two year old thread to see if there is evidence that I got something right once.

High five!