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Game 27 Lakers at Wolves 12/21/23 Record 20-6

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Re: Game 27 Lakers at Wolves 12/21/23 Record 20-6 

Post#61 » by winforlose » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:15 am

shrink wrote:SloMo leading the team at +9.


I thought for sure you meant turnovers. But that honor belongs to Rudy.
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Post#62 » by MN7725 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:15 am

any offense where Rudy is camped in the paint is bizarre, he can't do anything back to the basket, why put him there

great screen setter, give and go, where he has a head of steam, he's pretty effective

i don't why wolves don't keep it simple and run pick/roll more
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Re: Game 27 Lakers at Wolves 12/21/23 Record 20-6 

Post#63 » by TimberKat » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:16 am

Papa Wolve to young pups: don't toy with your food. See fresh meat, bite down hard and don't let go.
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Re: Game 27 Lakers at Wolves 12/21/23 Record 20-6 

Post#64 » by KGdaBom » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:17 am

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I don’t object to Ant shooting. I object to Ant shooting more than all 4 other starters combined. Except when he has the hot hand.

Does he have the Hot Hand tonight? I'm not sure the exact definition of hot hand. How many out of how many. Do 3s get extra credit?


I was gonna make a you know it when you see it joke, but I am too depressed by Kyle and Rudy. He went 5 of 6 that is a hot hand yes. 3 point shots made consecutively is a good indicator. When you see a guy hit 1 you keep an eye out. When he hits 2 you set him up for 3. When he hits 3 you do whatever it takes to get him open for #4. Consecutive jumpers or a favorable matchup that gets a lot of easy shots are also good indicators. It really isn’t that difficult to notice your teammate is shooting well or scoring easily.

Do you think Ant should have more shots than all 4 other starters routinely? Or is it a bad sign?

Somebody must be messing up big time, because Ant was 5-6 late 1st or early 2nd I think. He hasn't taken another shot since. Is that his fault or the fault of his teammates. I don't really care who is taking the shots as long as they are going in. This first half feels like a loss even though we are leading. We should be up way more.
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Post#65 » by KGdaBom » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:18 am

TimberKat wrote:Papa Wolve to young pups: don't toy with your food. See fresh meat, bite down hard and don't let go.

Yep. In other words .... Take Care of Business.
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Post#66 » by winforlose » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:19 am

KGdaBom wrote:
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KGdaBom wrote:Does he have the Hot Hand tonight? I'm not sure the exact definition of hot hand. How many out of how many. Do 3s get extra credit?


I was gonna make a you know it when you see it joke, but I am too depressed by Kyle and Rudy. He went 5 of 6 that is a hot hand yes. 3 point shots made consecutively is a good indicator. When you see a guy hit 1 you keep an eye out. When he hits 2 you set him up for 3. When he hits 3 you do whatever it takes to get him open for #4. Consecutive jumpers or a favorable matchup that gets a lot of easy shots are also good indicators. It really isn’t that difficult to notice your teammate is shooting well or scoring easily.

Do you think Ant should have more shots than all 4 other starters routinely? Or is it a bad sign?

Somebody must be messing up big time, because Ant was 5-6 late 1st or early 2nd I think. He hasn't taken another shot since. Is that his fault or the fault of his teammates. I don't really care who is taking the shots as long as they are going in. This first half feels like a loss even though we are leading. We should be up way more.


I agree that Ant should have shot more. The answer is the same as it was last night. It is the fault of Finch and the scheme, the person initiating the offense, and his teammates for not getting him open more with screens and organized offense.
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Re: Game 27 Lakers at Wolves 12/21/23 Record 20-6 

Post#67 » by KGdaBom » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:21 am

winforlose wrote:
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I was gonna make a you know it when you see it joke, but I am too depressed by Kyle and Rudy. He went 5 of 6 that is a hot hand yes. 3 point shots made consecutively is a good indicator. When you see a guy hit 1 you keep an eye out. When he hits 2 you set him up for 3. When he hits 3 you do whatever it takes to get him open for #4. Consecutive jumpers or a favorable matchup that gets a lot of easy shots are also good indicators. It really isn’t that difficult to notice your teammate is shooting well or scoring easily.

Do you think Ant should have more shots than all 4 other starters routinely? Or is it a bad sign?

Somebody must be messing up big time, because Ant was 5-6 late 1st or early 2nd I think. He hasn't taken another shot since. Is that his fault or the fault of his teammates. I don't really care who is taking the shots as long as they are going in. This first half feels like a loss even though we are leading. We should be up way more.


I agree that Ant should have shot more. The answer is the same as it was last night. It is the fault of Finch and the scheme, the person initiating the offense, and his teammates for not getting him open more with screens and organized offense.

You believe that when a person has a hot hand you should force the shots to him rather than taking what you get in the flow of the offense. Is that correct?
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Post#68 » by winforlose » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:22 am

This probably won’t be in the second half scout. But a good key for the game is having Jaden play a full four quarters on offense. Last night he dropped 19 in the first half, and 2 in the second half. He has 12 tonight let’s get that to 22.
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Post#69 » by shrink » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:24 am

Guessing what Nori meant by LMS

Little Man Syndrome?
Last Man Standing?
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Re: Game 27 Lakers at Wolves 12/21/23 Record 20-6 

Post#70 » by winforlose » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:25 am

KGdaBom wrote:
winforlose wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:Somebody must be messing up big time, because Ant was 5-6 late 1st or early 2nd I think. He hasn't taken another shot since. Is that his fault or the fault of his teammates. I don't really care who is taking the shots as long as they are going in. This first half feels like a loss even though we are leading. We should be up way more.


I agree that Ant should have shot more. The answer is the same as it was last night. It is the fault of Finch and the scheme, the person initiating the offense, and his teammates for not getting him open more with screens and organized offense.

You believe that when a person has a hot hand you should force the shots to him rather than taking what you get in the flow of the offense. Is that correct?


I believe that when a player has the hot hand the offense should be configured to get that guy open. Big difference. For example call pick and pop for them. Or on a rebound swing it out to them instead of going back up with it (depending on the situation. If it is an easy dunk or layup take the points, but if it is 50/50 kick it to the hot hand.) You saw how Philly fed Maxey when he got hot. The same way Dallas fed Luka.
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Post#71 » by KGdaBom » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:25 am

I'm looking at Kyle's stats for the first half. He shot 50%, made his one FT, has 4 rebounds, 2 assists and 1 steal. He's a plus 9 for the game. Best on the team. Yet all I see is hate for him.
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Post#72 » by KGdaBom » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:28 am

winforlose wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
winforlose wrote:
I agree that Ant should have shot more. The answer is the same as it was last night. It is the fault of Finch and the scheme, the person initiating the offense, and his teammates for not getting him open more with screens and organized offense.

You believe that when a person has a hot hand you should force the shots to him rather than taking what you get in the flow of the offense. Is that correct?


I believe that when a player has the hot hand the offense should be configured to get that guy open. Big difference. For example call pick and pop for them. Or on a rebound swing it out to them instead of going back up with it (depending on the situation. If it is an easy dunk or layup take the points, but if it is 50/50 kick it to the hot hand.) You saw how Philly fed Maxey when he got hot. The same way Dallas fed Luka.

That sounds like forcing the ball to him to me. Not a big difference.
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Re: Game 27 Lakers at Wolves 12/21/23 Record 20-6 

Post#73 » by Guest84 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:29 am

Do we need to have Towns guard Davis??
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Post#74 » by winforlose » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:29 am

KGdaBom wrote:I'm looking at Kyle's stats for the first half. He shot 50%, made his one FT, has 4 rebounds, 2 assists and 1 steal. He's a plus 9 for the game. Best on the team. Yet all I see is hate for him.


Not hate, but he kills the spacing. When he and Rudy share the floor KAT’s drive and kick is wasted. They also play off of him and he rarely makes them pay. The effect is more than what shows up on the stat sheet.
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Post#75 » by _AIJ_ » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:34 am

Defense and turnovers are killing us again. Sigh
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Post#76 » by Guest84 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:34 am

Couple bad possessions by Ant
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Post#77 » by KGdaBom » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:34 am

winforlose wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:I'm looking at Kyle's stats for the first half. He shot 50%, made his one FT, has 4 rebounds, 2 assists and 1 steal. He's a plus 9 for the game. Best on the team. Yet all I see is hate for him.


Not hate, but he kills the spacing. When he and Rudy share the floor KAT’s drive and kick is wasted. They also play off of him and he rarely makes them pay. The effect is more than what shows up on the stat sheet.

We won by 9 during his time on the floor and lost by 5 during his time off it.
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Post#78 » by KGdaBom » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:35 am

D'Lo is doing his best for us tonight, but Prince is KILLING us.
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Post#79 » by Murphs56 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:36 am

We are not playing well at all tonight. Disappointing with a Lakers team without Lebron. Luckily Russell is having a vintage game.
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Post#80 » by Colbinii » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:37 am

As much as I love SlowMo, I hate how he is a detriment offensively.

Specifically, when Towns drives and draws the defender, he kicks to SlowMo who just...can't shoot the open 3. It would help a lot if we had a 3 who could shoot consistently off of Towns penetration.
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