KGdaBom wrote:Neeva wrote:Brogdon is overrated and has sucked ass for two straight playoffs in a row.
He's also been sensational when allowed to be the man.
So you're going to let him be "the man" ahead of Ant and KAT? Even more foolish.
KGdaBom wrote:Neeva wrote:Brogdon is overrated and has sucked ass for two straight playoffs in a row.
He's also been sensational when allowed to be the man.
tsherkin wrote:The important thing to take away here is that Klomp is wrong.
Esohny wrote:Why are you asking Klomp? "He's" actually a bot that posts random blurbs from a database.
Klomp wrote:I'm putting the tired in retired mod at the moment
Klomp wrote:KGdaBom wrote:Neeva wrote:Brogdon is overrated and has sucked ass for two straight playoffs in a row.
He's also been sensational when allowed to be the man.
So you're going to let him be "the man" ahead of Ant and KAT? Even more foolish.
tsherkin wrote:The important thing to take away here is that Klomp is wrong.
Esohny wrote:Why are you asking Klomp? "He's" actually a bot that posts random blurbs from a database.
Klomp wrote:I'm putting the tired in retired mod at the moment
Klomp wrote:If Brogdon was 2-3 year younger, I might consider it. But he isn't young. He turns 31 in December.
KGdaBom wrote:Neeva wrote:Brogdon is overrated and has sucked ass for two straight playoffs in a row.
He's also been sensational when allowed to be the undisputed PG.
KGdaBom wrote:Klomp wrote:If Brogdon was 2-3 year younger, I might consider it. But he isn't young. He turns 31 in December.
5 years younger than Conley. I also like Brogdon being much bigger.
Note30 wrote:KGdaBom wrote:Neeva wrote:Brogdon is overrated and has sucked ass for two straight playoffs in a row.
He's also been sensational when allowed to be the undisputed PG.
If he was that sensational he wouldn't have been coming off the bench for Marcus Smart
jpatrick wrote:KGdaBom wrote:Klomp wrote:If Brogdon was 2-3 year younger, I might consider it. But he isn't young. He turns 31 in December.
5 years younger than Conley. I also like Brogdon being much bigger.
I agree with much of what you’re saying. I long thought a player like Brogdon would be a nice fit next to Ant. High BBIQ, good size, knockdown shooter, good defense. And he is younger than Conley. The problem is that the NBA isn’t like a video game. People/personalities matter. From everything I’ve heard/read, Conley is kind of the connective tissue that is bringing the team together, which is critical given the strong and very diverse personalities on this team (Ant, KAT, Rudy, etc). Plus, he’s a good fit on the court with them as a guy who is happy doing whatever is called for on a given night, a glue guy.
I also don’t think the cost would be worthwhile. We really don’t have picks, would you be willing to attach Leonard Miller, Josh Minnott, and another pick swap to Conley?
If there was a way to make the deal at a reasonable cost, I’d do it. He’s a good fit on the team. But I don’t think giving up Conley plus assets makes us better.
younggunsmn wrote:I like Brogdon but I will take Conley 10/10 times over him.
More of what we need, a pure pass first PG, and less injury risk.
And I was super impressed with Conley's ability to navigate screens on defense last year, which is one of the most underrated and unappreciated aspects of guard play.
I think Portland will be able to turn Brogdon into at least one more 1st rounder, so I don't see us as having what they are looking for anyway.
We've already got a discount Brogdon type in Shake Milton.
KGdaBom wrote:younggunsmn wrote:I like Brogdon but I will take Conley 10/10 times over him.
More of what we need, a pure pass first PG, and less injury risk.
And I was super impressed with Conley's ability to navigate screens on defense last year, which is one of the most underrated and unappreciated aspects of guard play.
I think Portland will be able to turn Brogdon into at least one more 1st rounder, so I don't see us as having what they are looking for anyway.
We've already got a discount Brogdon type in Shake Milton.
Brogdon is better than Shake. Is that what you meant by discount. Yes I think Portland can get a first for Brogdon and if they trade Time Lord they will get another first. So Holiday alone potentially got Portland 4 FRPs and the rest of the deal for dame was a FRP and 2 potentially valuable pick swaps.
TimberKat wrote:KGdaBom wrote:younggunsmn wrote:I like Brogdon but I will take Conley 10/10 times over him.
More of what we need, a pure pass first PG, and less injury risk.
And I was super impressed with Conley's ability to navigate screens on defense last year, which is one of the most underrated and unappreciated aspects of guard play.
I think Portland will be able to turn Brogdon into at least one more 1st rounder, so I don't see us as having what they are looking for anyway.
We've already got a discount Brogdon type in Shake Milton.
Brogdon is better than Shake. Is that what you meant by discount. Yes I think Portland can get a first for Brogdon and if they trade Time Lord they will get another first. So Holiday alone potentially got Portland 4 FRPs and the rest of the deal for dame was a FRP and 2 potentially valuable pick swaps.
Given Dame's contract, Holiday is actually more attractive to some teams.I don't think BOS would give the same package for Dame.
KGdaBom wrote:younggunsmn wrote:I like Brogdon but I will take Conley 10/10 times over him.
More of what we need, a pure pass first PG, and less injury risk.
And I was super impressed with Conley's ability to navigate screens on defense last year, which is one of the most underrated and unappreciated aspects of guard play.
I think Portland will be able to turn Brogdon into at least one more 1st rounder, so I don't see us as having what they are looking for anyway.
We've already got a discount Brogdon type in Shake Milton.
Brogdon is better than Shake. Is that what you meant by discount. Yes I think Portland can get a first for Brogdon and if they trade Time Lord they will get another first. So Holiday alone potentially got Portland 4 FRPs and the rest of the deal for dame was a FRP and 2 potentially valuable pick swaps.
TimberKat wrote:Anyone seen rookie Bird and Magic battle in pre-season games? I imagine it's like Wembanyama vs Holmgren. It's about as exciting as pre-season gets. So far, both played well. I am surprised by how well Holmgren is playing after sitting out a year.
KATKlownFeet wrote:KGdaBom wrote:younggunsmn wrote:I like Brogdon but I will take Conley 10/10 times over him.
More of what we need, a pure pass first PG, and less injury risk.
And I was super impressed with Conley's ability to navigate screens on defense last year, which is one of the most underrated and unappreciated aspects of guard play.
I think Portland will be able to turn Brogdon into at least one more 1st rounder, so I don't see us as having what they are looking for anyway.
We've already got a discount Brogdon type in Shake Milton.
Brogdon is better than Shake. Is that what you meant by discount. Yes I think Portland can get a first for Brogdon and if they trade Time Lord they will get another first. So Holiday alone potentially got Portland 4 FRPs and the rest of the deal for dame was a FRP and 2 potentially valuable pick swaps.
Shake is a much better bargain than Brogdon's 20M deal, plus he's younger and I think he has some upside if given consistent minutes. Brogdon is definitely good, but he's an injury waiting to happen. I'm happy with Conley and Shake tandem. Plus, I don't want to trade away assets to get Brogdon.
KGdaBom wrote:TimberKat wrote:Anyone seen rookie Bird and Magic battle in pre-season games? I imagine it's like Wembanyama vs Holmgren. It's about as exciting as pre-season gets. So far, both played well. I am surprised by how well Holmgren is playing after sitting out a year.
I was surprised by how well both of them played.
TimberKat wrote:Anyone seen rookie Bird and Magic battle in pre-season games? I imagine it's like Wembanyama vs Holmgren. It's about as exciting as pre-season gets. So far, both played well. I am surprised by how well Holmgren is playing after sitting out a year.
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