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revprodeji wrote:talkbasket wrote:Just so you guys know after the game he said in an interview that he will not come to the NBA, will not play for the Wolves and has no intention of playing in the NBA. He might be lying but that's what he said.
You have made comments like this before without proving it. Could you please provide proof?
Calinks3 wrote:If he doesn't come over, will the wolves get compensated?
FinnTheHuman wrote: Your post is just garbage.
NewWolvesOrder wrote:Garbage post, indeed.
4ho5ive wrote:It would only be fitting that Pekovic doesnt come over. Its like the draft was one big middle finger to the fans.
FinnTheHuman wrote: Your post is just garbage.
NewWolvesOrder wrote:Garbage post, indeed.
Steve_Holiday wrote:Sounds fairly doubtful that Pekovic will play in the NBA, which wouldn't make his any different than most 2nd round picks. From reading the other thread, there seems to be a consensus that he is a back-to-the-basket type of player with average defense and rebounding; definitely not a good fit for the Wolves.
I'm not sure I completely follow Talkbasket's points in the other thread addressing Pekovic's skills. On the one hand, he's the second-option on his team and they would gladly match most big offers to keep him around. On the other hand, he routinely rides the bench for playing poor defense and his team prefers a style of play that better-suits their backup center. How does that make sense?
Additionally, TB claimed that Pekovic is better than Kevin Love. This could certainly be true, but honestly, how many European players have come to the NBA in the last 15 years that contribute even as much as Love (who is by no means yet a star)?...Dirk, Tony Parker, AK47 (who only had a couple good seasons), Big Z, Okur (eh...), Gasol brothers...I have serious doubts that a potential NBA star is hanging out on a bench in Greece, completely under the radar, while the Darkos and the Marcos and the Danielos and the Andreas of the world bust year after year after year.
I really do not think you can read to much into this. Let's think of the incentives ---
Pekovic says: "I can't wait to go play in the NBA"
Effect: His Greek team knows that he wants to leave, thus giving them leverage in any buyout discussions. They can afford to play hardball and refuse to negotiate on his buyout. Timberwolves can come in with a low ball offer knowing he wants to play in the NBA.
Pekovic says: "I love it here, I have no desire to play in the NBA for the Timberwolves or whoever"
Effect: His Greek team is pleased in the meantime thinking he wants to stay. The rest of his teammates trust him as they believe he remains committed to the long term success of the franchise. Timberwolves know they'll have to pony up extra dough to convince him to come over which gives Pekovic more leverage and results in a higher paying deal.
This financial incentive line of reasoning is consistent with why he was picked with the first pick in the second round. Teams knew that with him it was going to be about the money and were told not to lock him into the first round rookie scale or else he would not come over.
Conclusion: Seems to me Pekovic is just saying what any smart player with a a smart agent would say. Saying he can't wait to play in the NBA provides no incentive since he is already drafted. A player that has yet to be drafted on the other hand would have an incentive to say he "can't wait to take his game to the NBA," because that would mean he would be drafted higher and have a chance to make more money.
FinnTheHuman wrote: Your post is just garbage.
NewWolvesOrder wrote:Garbage post, indeed.
Pekovic is much better than Love. He has a chance to be an all star in the NBA for sure. You don't understand a club like PAO. It means literally nothing whether you start or come off the bench.
Rakocevicftw wrote:If/when we offer Pekovic the full midlevel, his buyout and his love of European basketball will quickly go out the window.
Steve_Holiday wrote:Pekovic is much better than Love. He has a chance to be an all star in the NBA for sure. You don't understand a club like PAO. It means literally nothing whether you start or come off the bench.
Take another look at my post. I said nothing about starting vs. coming off the bench. I simply reiterated your talking points on the linked thread that Pekovic sees less playing time because he is benched for poor defense and his style of play doesn't mesh with his team. What I'm saying is how do go from that to certain NBA All-Star, especially when a very tiny fraction of European stars find even moderate success in America?
Rakocevicftw wrote:If/when we offer Pekovic the full midlevel, his buyout and his love of European basketball will quickly go out the window.
talkbasket wrote:Steve_Holiday wrote:Pekovic is much better than Love. He has a chance to be an all star in the NBA for sure. You don't understand a club like PAO. It means literally nothing whether you start or come off the bench.
Take another look at my post. I said nothing about starting vs. coming off the bench. I simply reiterated your talking points on the linked thread that Pekovic sees less playing time because he is benched for poor defense and his style of play doesn't mesh with his team. What I'm saying is how do go from that to certain NBA All-Star, especially when a very tiny fraction of European stars find even moderate success in America?
You need to read my posts better. Pekovic doesn't play D or rebound to the standard of PANATHINAIKOS. He has a 50/50 chance of being an NBA all star if he came to the NBA. He's already much better than guys like Marc Gasol and Luis Scola ever were in Europe.
FinnTheHuman wrote: Your post is just garbage.
NewWolvesOrder wrote:Garbage post, indeed.
revprodeji wrote:Sorry Talkbasket, some of the people here think you are just delusional. Please continue to update me with Pekovic information, I really do appreciate it.
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