Early discussion on the 2023 offseason

[CalamityX12]

Too soon for me to throw shade at Marks for not drafting Leonard Miller?

[Netaman]

Too soon for me to throw shade at Marks for not drafting Leonard Miller?

maybe? the whole league passed on him so probably something there since he had so much helium leading up to the draft and the tangibles are so obvious.

if jalen wilson keeps looking the way he does i'll be good on missing on leonard even if that ends up looking bad. i think wilson is one of the more exciting players marks has drafted since he's been here. he looks like a much better version of kessler edwards.

[JKiddy]

Too soon for me to throw shade at Marks for not drafting Leonard Miller?

maybe? the whole league passed on him so probably something there since he had so much helium leading up to the draft and the tangibles are so obvious.

if jalen wilson keeps looking the way he does i'll be good on missing on leonard even if that ends up looking bad. i think wilson is one of the more exciting players marks has drafted since he's been here. he looks like a much better version of kessler edwards.

I think we drafted Wilson to play this season after we move one of DFS/RO in a deal that will occur this summer. Wilson will be a nice role player for us.

[Karate Diop]

So Sumner is a lock to be waived right? Sucks because he played well when given the chance but I can't see anyway he's not let go... Pushing back the guarantee deadline seems like it was a past ditch effort to see if there was any team that would be interested in acquiring him.

[CalamityX12]

Too soon for me to throw shade at Marks for not drafting Leonard Miller?

maybe? the whole league passed on him so probably something there since he had so much helium leading up to the draft and the tangibles are so obvious.

if jalen wilson keeps looking the way he does i'll be good on missing on leonard even if that ends up looking bad. i think wilson is one of the more exciting players marks has drafted since he's been here. he looks like a much better version of kessler edwards.

that's true about the league passing up on him... obviously not the final judgement call on Miller's potential.

Wilson looks trustworthy and that's what we need for sure lol

[Netaman]

So Sumner is a lock to be waived right? Sucks because he played well when given the chance but I can't see anyway he's not let go... Pushing back the guarantee deadline seems like it was a past ditch effort to see if there was any team that would be interested in acquiring him.

dont think it's to trade him as much as to trade his contract as part of salary matching to a team who can then dump it before the guarantee triggers to save $ (like portland or miami).

[TheNetsFan]

So Sumner is a lock to be waived right? Sucks because he played well when given the chance but I can't see anyway he's not let go... Pushing back the guarantee deadline seems like it was a past ditch effort to see if there was any team that would be interested in acquiring him.

dont think it's to trade him as much as to trade his contract as part of salary matching to a team who can then dump it before the guarantee triggers to save $ (like portland or miami).

I think it's that they're still looking at trades, and we don't want to guarantee him until we know if we need the roster spot to complete the trade.

[bubonicphoniks]

Whats the deal with Herro. Hes a fine player but I don't think changes this team at all so any assets to get him is a mistake.

Petition to sign Mo Harkless. Why are his services not in higher demand?

Are you related to Moe? He's barely a 12th man in today's NBA. He's a tweener wing/forward, who can't shoot, rebound and is meh as a defender.

Haha I like Mo hes a versatile high IQ player. Lord knows worse guys have come through here lately.

[Claud]

I still think we need another center.

Clax/Sharpe/Clowney is too inexperienced. We need a vet C.

[CalamityX12]

Wrote this out, a stupid hot take for change of pace.

David Duke Jr over Cam Thomas?

[CalamityX12]

I still think we need another center.

Clax/Sharpe/Clowney is too inexperienced. We need a vet C.

Not just a vet but an actual big man...

this undersized bs has gone too far.

[JoseRizal]

I still think we need another center.

Clax/Sharpe/Clowney is too inexperienced. We need a vet C.

Not just a vet but an actual big man...

this undersized bs has gone too far.

It seems that Marks isn't satisfied with the 29th team rebounding rank and is gunning for last place this upcoming season.

[Netaman]

this seems somewhat noteworthy.

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[Decipher]

this seems somewhat noteworthy.

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Simmons has been training at a Miami facility used by Heat players (and others) for weeks so probably nothing to it

[Netaman]

been saying but miami is very incentivized to keep the nets roped into helping them as 3rd team vs. splintering them off into leverage for portland if the nets are indeed interested in herro as it has been pretty widely reported at this point.

if nets send a 2025 pick out for herro i would hope it's protected to the lesser of their 2 picks (even though it's almost certain to be the phoenix pick).

4 frps + jovic + whoever nets deal for salary match seems like a solid return for portland. this 3 team seems to make too much sense to not happen, and if it does i'll be really curious to see how the nets decide to salary match. I would think they will lean towards dealing the older guys as opposed to simmons.

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[brook]

I still think we need another center.

Clax/Sharpe/Clowney is too inexperienced. We need a vet C.

Not just a vet but an actual big man...

this undersized bs has gone too far.

Except of Christian Wood, the only actual big man left on the market are Bismarck Biyombo & Willy Hernangomez. I like Willy.

[Shark]

I still think we need another center.

Clax/Sharpe/Clowney is too inexperienced. We need a vet C.

Not just a vet but an actual big man...

this undersized bs has gone too far.

Except of Christian Wood, the only actual big man left on the market are Bismarck Biyombo & Willy Hernangomez. I like Willy.

Willy signed with Barca.

[Tha King]

been saying but miami is very incentivized to keep the nets roped into helping them as 3rd team vs. splintering them off into leverage for portland if the nets are indeed interested in herro as it has been pretty widely reported at this point.

if nets send a 2025 pick out for herro it's protected to the lesser of their 2 picks (even though it's almost certain to be the phoenix pick).

4 frps + jovic + whoever nets deal for salary match seems like a solid return for portland. this 3 team seems to make too much sense to not happen, and if it does i'll be really curious to see how the nets decide to salary match. I would think they will lean towards dealing the older guys as opposed to simmons.

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If it's any combination of Din, DFS, O'Neale then imo the 2025 pick is too much for Herro. You could argue those players have just as much value or more, contracts considered.

The other thing, since the 2025 pick could be a very important aspect to the broader trade between Miami/Portland, Brooklyn would/should need further incentive to include it.

[Netaman]

If it's any combination of Din, DFS, O'Neale then imo the 2025 pick is too much for Herro. You could argue those players have just as much value or more, contracts considered.

The other thing, since the 2025 pick could be a very important aspect to the broader trade between Miami/Portland, Brooklyn would/should need further incentive to include it.

value wise i dont disagree they'd be giving up extra positive value players but i think the rumored prices asked by nets associated with royce/dfs are high so im not sure how much value that actually is.

royce has 1 year left so im not sure he has FRP value any more. Last year with 2 reasonable salaries left a late FRP from a championship contender seemed like a fair but not cheap price to pay for him. on an expiring he's good filler but he's filler. i wouldn't be shocked if his value is closer to a jae crowder bushel of 2nd round picks return now.

DFS would be worth a FRP with 3 fair years of control if he hadn't shot the ball so badly and wasnt coming off surgery now. He is probably worth a future protected 1st but i dont think he's worth much more than that and im not sure who out there still needs him.

A bunch of the teams interested in those types of players just went out and spent their TPMLEs on Grant Williams, Strus, Divincenzo, Brown, vincent, etc. the mavs are an interesting option for a reunion since they got matched on thybulle so we know they are still looking even if they just added grant williams.

i would hope the nets can rope a 4th team like SAS into taking DFS or Royce so if they give miami a 2025 pick they can get back a different FRP, but it also wouldn't shock me if it's just a 3 team trade and the value they get back for those guys is more in the form of a young player (like Haywood Highsmith).

[Shark]

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Not shocking, but Sumner's been officially released.