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Was it KD's fault though? I thought part of the reason he wanted to go to the Suns was because of Monty Williams.
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Shark wrote:Was it KD's fault though? I thought part of the reason he wanted to go to the Suns was because of Monty Williams.
When you are a generational talent and don’t get it done, yes it is your fault. Booker is a top 15 talent, no reason they shouldn’t have won. And Monty was much better than Steve Nash.
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NetsWorld wrote:Shark wrote:Was it KD's fault though? I thought part of the reason he wanted to go to the Suns was because of Monty Williams.
When you are a generational talent and don’t get it done, yes it is your fault. Booker is a top 15 talent, no reason they shouldn’t have won. And Monty was much better than Steve Nash.
I disagree for a couple of reasons. I believe it overlooks the fact that another (younger) generational talent, Jokic, was on the opposing team. Secondly, it ignores the reality that KD was NOT on the obviously better team. Booker and Durant did their jobs, collectively scoring 60.3 points per game versus Jokic and Murray at 59.3 PPG, respectively, and at nearly the same efficiencies. The rest of their team scored 10.5 PPG less than those on the Nuggets.
The Suns were without two, I think not insignificant, starters in the elimination game, and four, if you consider that they lost Mikal and CJ in the trade, which severely hurt their defense. They had no depth, and Booker, and KD (at 34+ years) played over 40 minutes per.
I especially question so faulting KD, who I thought looked not totally acclimated after (I think) only 8 in season games. This particularly when he scored the same PPG, 29+, that has him fourth best on the the NBA player playoff all time PPG scoring list.
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NetsWorld wrote:Shark wrote:Was it KD's fault though? I thought part of the reason he wanted to go to the Suns was because of Monty Williams.
When you are a generational talent and don’t get it done, yes it is your fault. Booker is a top 15 talent, no reason they shouldn’t have won. And Monty was much better than Steve Nash.
I didn't mean in so far as his play, which I agree on, it was more the implication that he may have gotten Monty fired for other reasons.
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lol Harden got very far
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Watching Harden choke again was priceless.
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Looks like Ben was enjoying the sixers game just like us
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real good week for the phi 2027 (top 8 protected) and the phoenix picks.
as pumped as id be to get lillard or someone else i kind of want to see what marks can actually do with a bunch of draft picks earlier than 20.
as pumped as id be to get lillard or someone else i kind of want to see what marks can actually do with a bunch of draft picks earlier than 20.
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Karate Diop wrote:Watching Harden choke again was priceless.
I'd rather have Harden than Simmons.
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Netaman wrote:real good week for the phi 2027 (top 8 protected) and the phoenix picks.
as pumped as id be to get lillard or someone else i kind of want to see what marks can actually do with a bunch of draft picks earlier than 20.
ironically, Booker could be available in a couple years. They don't really have many ways of improving that team.
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Marvin Martian wrote:Karate Diop wrote:Watching Harden choke again was priceless.
I'd rather have Harden than Simmons.
Sixers lost their end of the deal. Two years and they failed, Simmons underwent surgery and it was estimated one year to recover. Simmons is still young and I have decided to not give up YET. If he gets traded, I’m ok with it; but there is still a chance this guy may recover.
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NetsWorld wrote:Marvin Martian wrote:Karate Diop wrote:Watching Harden choke again was priceless.
I'd rather have Harden than Simmons.
Sixers lost their end of the deal. Two years and they failed, Simmons underwent surgery and it was estimated one year to recover. Simmons is still young and I have decided to not give up YET. If he gets traded, I’m ok with it; but there is still a chance this guy may recover.
No they didn't. At the end of the day, Harden is playing and Simmons isn't. If PHI wanted to trade Harden, they still can and get a decent return.
Simmons on the other hand, is a negative asset. This rehabilitation experiment is an absolute failure as Simmons has shown 0 growth in any aspect of basketball this season.
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Netaman wrote:real good week for the phi 2027 (top 8 protected) and the phoenix picks.
as pumped as id be to get lillard or someone else i kind of want to see what marks can actually do with a bunch of draft picks earlier than 20.
Same unless a superstar like Luka becomes available i dont mind rebuilding organically. Those Suns picks might really turn into some high lottery picks. Marks has an eye for talent he was trying to make a move in the lte lottery for Donvanon mitchell in his draft
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Marvin Martian wrote:NetsWorld wrote:Marvin Martian wrote:I'd rather have Harden than Simmons.
Sixers lost their end of the deal. Two years and they failed, Simmons underwent surgery and it was estimated one year to recover. Simmons is still young and I have decided to not give up YET. If he gets traded, I’m ok with it; but there is still a chance this guy may recover.
No they didn't. At the end of the day, Harden is playing and Simmons isn't. If PHI wanted to trade Harden, they still can and get a decent return.
Simmons on the other hand, is a negative asset. This rehabilitation experiment is an absolute failure as Simmons has shown 0 growth in any aspect of basketball this season.
Good chance harden leaves them this offseason. So what did they actually do get to the 2nd round like they always have done. So they would have assets from our trade. There still a chance for Ben revenge tour.
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So the final results are in
Mavs tanked, Suns are in turmoil, Sixers capped out
Meanwhile, we have cap flexibility, depth & a heap of picks
Mavs tanked, Suns are in turmoil, Sixers capped out
Meanwhile, we have cap flexibility, depth & a heap of picks
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Eatgreenz wrote:Marvin Martian wrote:NetsWorld wrote:
Sixers lost their end of the deal. Two years and they failed, Simmons underwent surgery and it was estimated one year to recover. Simmons is still young and I have decided to not give up YET. If he gets traded, I’m ok with it; but there is still a chance this guy may recover.
No they didn't. At the end of the day, Harden is playing and Simmons isn't. If PHI wanted to trade Harden, they still can and get a decent return.
Simmons on the other hand, is a negative asset. This rehabilitation experiment is an absolute failure as Simmons has shown 0 growth in any aspect of basketball this season.
Good chance harden leaves them this offseason. So what did they actually do get to the 2nd round like they always have done. So they would have assets from our trade. There still a chance for Ben revenge tour.
Ben is done. He is the last remnant of the 7/11 era. The quicker he is gone the better.
This franchise needs to stop bending the knee to egomaniacs like Simmons. At least KD will get you 30 ppg. Simmons isn't giving the Nets ****
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Marvin Martian wrote:Eatgreenz wrote:Marvin Martian wrote:
No they didn't. At the end of the day, Harden is playing and Simmons isn't. If PHI wanted to trade Harden, they still can and get a decent return.
Simmons on the other hand, is a negative asset. This rehabilitation experiment is an absolute failure as Simmons has shown 0 growth in any aspect of basketball this season.
Good chance harden leaves them this offseason. So what did they actually do get to the 2nd round like they always have done. So they would have assets from our trade. There still a chance for Ben revenge tour.
Ben is done. He is the last remnant of the 7/11 era. The quicker he is gone the better.
This franchise needs to stop bending the knee to egomaniacs like Simmons. At least KD will get you 30 ppg. Simmons isn't giving the Nets ****
He's crocked and came back way too soon
Untradeable until he gets back on court
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Marvin Martian wrote:NetsWorld wrote:Marvin Martian wrote:I'd rather have Harden than Simmons.
Sixers lost their end of the deal. Two years and they failed, Simmons underwent surgery and it was estimated one year to recover. Simmons is still young and I have decided to not give up YET. If he gets traded, I’m ok with it; but there is still a chance this guy may recover.
No they didn't. At the end of the day, Harden is playing and Simmons isn't. If PHI wanted to trade Harden, they still can and get a decent return.
Simmons on the other hand, is a negative asset. This rehabilitation experiment is an absolute failure as Simmons has shown 0 growth in any aspect of basketball this season.
Harden has a PO and no team is going to pay him max dollars, so Sixers ain’t facilitating a sign and trade. Sixers have no assets. Also, are they gonna pay Maxey big money? Harden is as good as gone and it’s no secret he wants the Rockets and probably came to grips he won’t be winning a ring. I think he just wants comfort at this point. Embiid will be interesting because it has just been a miserable experiment that couldn’t get past the second round, hence the Harden trade was a failure for the Sixers. Ben is 26 with an opportunity to recover. Nets have time to evaluate the landscape. If they were smart, trade O’Neal for picks or DFS for picks or young prospects. 24 and 25 are years to watch.
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NetsWorld wrote:Marvin Martian wrote:NetsWorld wrote:
Sixers lost their end of the deal. Two years and they failed, Simmons underwent surgery and it was estimated one year to recover. Simmons is still young and I have decided to not give up YET. If he gets traded, I’m ok with it; but there is still a chance this guy may recover.
No they didn't. At the end of the day, Harden is playing and Simmons isn't. If PHI wanted to trade Harden, they still can and get a decent return.
Simmons on the other hand, is a negative asset. This rehabilitation experiment is an absolute failure as Simmons has shown 0 growth in any aspect of basketball this season.
Harden has a PO and no team is going to pay him max dollars, so Sixers ain’t facilitating a sign and trade. Sixers have no assets. Also, are they gonna pay Maxey big money? Harden is as good as gone and it’s no secret he wants the Rockets and probably came to grips he won’t be winning a ring. I think he just wants comfort at this point. Embiid will be interesting because it has just been a miserable experiment that couldn’t get past the second round, hence the Harden trade was a failure for the Sixers. Ben is 26 with an opportunity to recover. Nets have time to evaluate the landscape. If they were smart, trade O’Neal for picks or DFS for picks or young prospects. 24 and 25 are years to watch.
Harden gave PHI a chance to compete. They went into the BOS series as underdogs and was one 3 min meltdown in game 6 from going to the ECF. Not to mention that he single handedly won game 1. Can't really call that failure.
If they knew now what they knew back then, they would still do the trade. In fact, PHI would have had to give up more assets. Because Ben is that bad.
Ben is not a prospect anymore. This is who he is. I expect him to get worse from this point on. He has repeatedly failed to impose his will on the game even when he the most talented player on the floor. He has failed to even take shots even when we were missing our stars. He is horrible.
If the Nets were smart, they would take advantage of Bridges bargain contract and build a contender ASAP in a wide open league before he asks for a raise.
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Marvin Martian wrote:NetsWorld wrote:Marvin Martian wrote:
No they didn't. At the end of the day, Harden is playing and Simmons isn't. If PHI wanted to trade Harden, they still can and get a decent return.
Simmons on the other hand, is a negative asset. This rehabilitation experiment is an absolute failure as Simmons has shown 0 growth in any aspect of basketball this season.
Harden has a PO and no team is going to pay him max dollars, so Sixers ain’t facilitating a sign and trade. Sixers have no assets. Also, are they gonna pay Maxey big money? Harden is as good as gone and it’s no secret he wants the Rockets and probably came to grips he won’t be winning a ring. I think he just wants comfort at this point. Embiid will be interesting because it has just been a miserable experiment that couldn’t get past the second round, hence the Harden trade was a failure for the Sixers. Ben is 26 with an opportunity to recover. Nets have time to evaluate the landscape. If they were smart, trade O’Neal for picks or DFS for picks or young prospects. 24 and 25 are years to watch.
Harden gave PHI a chance to compete. They went into the BOS series as underdogs and was one 3 min meltdown in game 6 from going to the ECF. Not to mention that he single handedly won game 1. Can't really call that failure.
If they knew now what they knew back then, they would still do the trade. In fact, PHI would have had to give up more assets. Because Ben is that bad.
Ben is not a prospect anymore. This is who he is. I expect him to get worse from this point on. He has repeatedly failed to impose his will on the game even when he the most talented player on the floor. He has failed to even take shots even when we were missing our stars. He is horrible.
If the Nets were smart, they would take advantage of Bridges bargain contract and build a contender ASAP in a wide open league before he asks for a raise.
Harden didn't take a fg or ft attempt in the 4th quarter of the last 3 games
He was an absolute disaster
James is rumoured to be opting out and returning to Houston
IF he walks to sign in cap space, the Sixers will still be over the cap & only have the MLE to spend
They better pray that he opts in or might be forced to max him
That ain't good