Netaman wrote:Tha King wrote:Netaman wrote:Cam Thomas turning into anything close to Herro is a stretch for me. He's been worse at basically everything as a pro and despite obvious scoring skill couldn't get his way into the lineup at the end of the year when they obviously needed more scoring.
Herro on the other hand since his rookie year has not just found roles, but done so on winning teams and produced in the playoffs.
Let's see Cam find a way to carve out a regular role in regular season before comparing him in any way/shape/form to Herro. The talent is there but he's Marshon Brooks until he proves otherwise.
I would assume if there's a Herro to Nets deal, it's with Royce and DFS getting traded, maybe one of the Miami since either would be helpful role players there on a team looking to contend.
Everything depends on the Lillard/Miami talks, which are mostly unknown other than that we know they are happening.
Herro found a role as a bench scorer on a defensive team that needed his offensive skillset. Thomas was drafted into a superteam with offensive stars and still had moments when given the opportunity. The situations they were drafted into has to be considered.
Herro first two seasons on/off and per 36 ppg:
Year 1: -8.4 ; 17.7ppg
Year 2: -5.3 ; 17.9ppg
Cam Thomas:
Year 1: -10.9 ; 17.4ppg
Year 2: -3.3 ; 22.9ppg
Both net negatives because they don't give you much beyond scoring but Herro was in an ideal situation where he could play minutes and get his inefficient points without any defense because he had elite defense and playmakers around him.
Hopefully this doesn't get misconstrued as hyping Cam Thomas. It's just I don't think there's a ton of value in the Cam Thomas/Herro archetype of guard which factors in what I think Brooklyn should trade for Herro and the point where developing Cam Thomas makes more sense.
Herro is a different archetype if you believe he can an elite shooter, which I do. I think he's a better version of Reddick, who made a lot of money over his career for pretty good reason.
I don't believe Cam is or can be an elite shooter. until he proves he can carve out any sort of regular role the good games are fools gold. With all the injuries the nets had the last couple years he has had chances to earl regular minutes and he couldnt do it when they were superstar driven, load managing, or a scrappy team of non-scorers.
Herro just has a higher BBIQ than Cam in every other way until further notice. Herro is a sneaky good rebounder, can actually operate as a playmaker, and while his defensive numbers aren't good they are better than Cam's. he's thrived as a 6th man and as a starter. he's fit into a team culture. cam's done none of those things.
What team culture Cam supposed to Join ? Elaborate
Kyries culture , Hardens culture ? Nash culture ?
This "culture" word is used to loosely, Nets as an organization haven’t had any culture since Atkinson stepped out the door
We’ve been laughingstock of the league during whole Cam Thomas tenure here , maybe we’re on a good tracks to get some culture back with Mikal Bridges and C Johnson
Front office and coaching staff leaves lot to be desired though
