GAME 1 NETS vs CAVS -Wed Oct 25

Karate Diop · Post #61 » by **Karate Diop** » Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:05 am

Rich Rane wrote:Bridges and CJ need to do better.

Johnson probably shouldn't have been out there... His inability to dribble really got exposed. Dinwiddie would have made a lot more sense.

Stone · Post #62 » by **Stone** » Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:06 am

Heartbreaker…..considering we had subpar games from several players we were lucky it was close.

Karate Diop · Post #63 » by **Karate Diop** » Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:06 am

Also someone else said it but why does Royce always seem to have these dumb turnovers?

He hits clutch shots but on the season those seem to be cancelled out by bad turnovers :lol:

Still like the guy, but come.on!

TheNetsFan · Post #64 » by **TheNetsFan** » Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:09 am

There's no offensive cohesion. Nobody knows where to screen/move. I've never been a fan of Vaughn's coaching, and he's doing nothing but affirming my worst beliefs.

Sharcm1 · Post #65 » by **Sharcm1** » Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:09 am

Cam Johnson is not a one on one player. He’s a catch and shoot player. Trying to make him something he is not because we paid him a lot

Karate Diop · Post #66 » by **Karate Diop** » Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:11 am

TheNetsFan wrote:There's no offensive cohesion. Nobody knows where to screen/move. I've never been a fan of Vaughn's coaching, and he's doing nothing but affirming my worst beliefs.

There was a stretch where the Nets offense was humming then Vaughn went into sub every few minutes mode and the offense devolved into guys trying to get Bridges the ball at the top of the arc and somehow failing...

Sharcm1 · Post #67 » by **Sharcm1** » Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:11 am

It looked like that last possession was designed to go to bridges on the curl off the screen. So when cam Thomas couldn’t get him the ball he had already picked up his dribble. JV should have cleared the lane for Thomas to work. Not use him as a passer

TheNetsFan · Post #68 » by **TheNetsFan** » Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:17 am

1) You need more ball handlers in on the final possession.
2) Forget balance late. When you have a lead under 2 minutes, go offensive and trade buckets or go defensive and put the clamps on.

Sharcm1 · Post #69 » by **Sharcm1** » Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:20 am

See he admitted the play was for bridges. Smh. Why

sashaturiaf · Post #70 » by **sashaturiaf** » Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:38 am

Just horrible

JV is bearded Nash

ChuckS · Post #71 » by **ChuckS** » Thu Oct 26, 2023 3:46 am

Karate Diop wrote:Also someone else said it but why does Royce always seem to have these dumb turnovers?

He hits clutch shots but on the season those seem to be cancelled out by bad turnovers

Still like the guy, but come.on!

I do not understand this particular criticism. The guy played a good game with a team high +8.

He made ONE turnover. Last year he averaged 1.5 per game at a 2.47:l ATO ratio. He has averaged 1.5 per game at a 2.4:1 ATO for his whole career. I've seen worse.

What a tough crowd!

NetsJets · Post #72 » by **NetsJets** » Thu Oct 26, 2023 3:57 am

Disappointing loss. We led by 6 with 1 and change left and we couldn’t score. Besides that. Cam Thomas shot very well and I liked the hustle and overall play of DSJ.

76ciology · Post #73 » by **76ciology** » Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:01 am

Cam Thomas has to get more PT. The starting unit clearly needs some injection of offense. But when Cam is on the floor, the offense cant just drop him the ball and let him cook. Maybe run some off ball action for Mikal then let Cam Thomas bail you out if the off ball action is denied.

Combination of Dinwiddie and Ben ain’t it. You need to surround them with scorers.

What Nets should do is let Ben play off the bench and use him to create mismatches because of his unique combination of size and skillset. Kerr used this often with guys like Livingston, Iggy and you see it now with Kuminga and GP2.

Karate Diop · Post #74 » by **Karate Diop** » Thu Oct 26, 2023 10:27 am

ChuckS wrote:
Karate Diop wrote:Also someone else said it but why does Royce always seem to have these dumb turnovers?

He hits clutch shots but on the season those seem to be cancelled out by bad turnovers

Still like the guy, but come.on!

I do not understand this particular criticism. The guy played a good game with a team high +8.

He made ONE turnover. Last year he averaged 1.5 per game at a 2.47:l ATO ratio. He has averaged 1.5 per game at a 2.4:1 ATO for his whole career. I've seen worse.

What a tough crowd!

It might be purely anecdotal but dumb turnovers are dumb turnovers. That was really an inexcusable.basketball play. Middle school recreation level basketball stuff... And there are a few other instances from last year.

Again, you may be right that they are actually infrequent, but the sheer stupidity of them when they occur is mind numbing :lol:

Iwasawitness · Post #75 » by **Iwasawitness** » Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:55 pm

Cavs fan here… tough loss for you guys but I really like the potential of this team and really wish we had one or two of your wings. Question though: why doesn’t Cam Thomas get more playing time? In don’t watch the Nets often so I’m not familiar with their situation.

Dangun · Post #76 » by **Dangun** » Thu Oct 26, 2023 3:47 pm

JV killed team rhythm with his constant subbing.. and also killed Thomas rhythm taking him out when he was beastin,… literally non reason to sub him out… only to put him back in last mins smh

Great game though ..

Dangun · Post #77 » by **Dangun** » Thu Oct 26, 2023 3:50 pm

Iwasawitness wrote:Cavs fan here… tough loss for you guys but I really like the potential of this team and really wish we had one or two of your wings. Question though: why doesn’t Cam Thomas get more playing time? In don’t watch the Nets often so I’m not familiar with their situation.

JV just hates the guy for some reason and uses the defense excuse to not give him more playing time ..

76ciology · Post #78 » by **76ciology** » Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:09 pm

Dangun wrote:
Iwasawitness wrote:Cavs fan here… tough loss for you guys but I really like the potential of this team and really wish we had one or two of your wings. Question though: why doesn’t Cam Thomas get more playing time? In don’t watch the Nets often so I’m not familiar with their situation.

JV just hates the guy for some reason and uses the defense excuse to not give him more playing time ..

Dont you guys think that the other Nets players try to tank their effort when Cam is on the floor? For it would mean less shots thats leads to less money. Whereas the “non cam thomas” scheme has role players looking like borderline stars despite not having shot creation ability on offense.

76ciology · Post #79 » by **76ciology** » Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:10 pm

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Dangun · Post #80 » by **Dangun** » Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:37 pm

76ciology wrote:
Dangun wrote:
Iwasawitness wrote:Cavs fan here… tough loss for you guys but I really like the potential of this team and really wish we had one or two of your wings. Question though: why doesn’t Cam Thomas get more playing time? In don’t watch the Nets often so I’m not familiar with their situation.

JV just hates the guy for some reason and uses the defense excuse to not give him more playing time ..

Dont you guys think that the other Nets players try to tank their effort when Cam is on the floor? For it would mean less shots thats leads to less money. Whereas the “non cam thomas” scheme has role players looking like borderline stars despite not having shot creation ability on offense.

I’d lmao if that’d be the case .. the guy can’t catch a break to fully breakout all cause they truly hatin.. coaches.. teammates.. it don’t matter lol