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Re: GT: Bucks @ Nets 11/6 - 7:30 EST 

Post#21 » by sashaturiaf » Tue Nov 7, 2023 3:48 am

Cam Thomas is HIM

JVs stubbornness might have cost us KD last season. I think Cam is a more reliable scorer than Kyrie right now, if he was unleashed last season KD might still be here.
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Re: GT: Bucks @ Nets 11/6 - 7:30 EST 

Post#22 » by 76ciology » Tue Nov 7, 2023 5:18 am

I dont know if Nets gameplan was not to hunt Dame and rather have a good defender defending the ISO player just so that leaves on less help defender. But eventually Cam was able to drive against Portis, Mikal was also able to shoot that left elbow-ish jumper against Portis again if im not mistaken.

Cam fouling Dame with Bucks up by 2 that puts Dame at the line despite having like 27 secs remaining was also weird. But it paid off since Dame missed that FT. I think Cam did the right decision to drive it on the next possessions since Bucks was overloading the defense on him on taking that 3, that was a good drive but just better defense by Giannis.

Nets plays like a bad version of the Mavs. You have Cam, instead of Doncic. With a lot of 3&D guys and a rim protecting/lob 5. And since Cam is not as good as a facilitator than Doncic (but maybe near as close as a scorer), the entire team just helps out on the passing part.

Cam Johnson playing DFS/Royce role and with Claxton at the 5, surely would have beat the Bucks this game.
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Re: GT: Bucks @ Nets 11/6 - 7:30 EST 

Post#23 » by bubonicphoniks » Tue Nov 7, 2023 6:19 am

Clax would have helped.

Cam is a wonderful scorer but I can see now why he was strapped to the bench the last 2 years. Worst tunnel vision Ive ever seen in a professional player.

Bridges is really best suited off ball.

Ben. Please take more shots.

Lonnie Walker balling.


Vaughn looks good though overall. Would have loved to see him instead of Nash these past few years. He actually coaches.
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Re: GT: Bucks @ Nets 11/6 - 7:30 EST 

Post#24 » by JoseRizal » Tue Nov 7, 2023 9:11 am

Another close game, another defeat. To be honest, I'm actually impressed at how our team is playing in spite of the circumstances (injuries w/ 2 starters).

Also, we have one of the toughest first 10 games of the season with CLE, DAL, CHA, MIA, CHI, BOS, MIL, LAC, BOS & WAS. That's 7 tough teams and 3 average to below-average ones.

Almost all of our losses were closed ones, except the Boston one which was competitive 3/4th the time.

We'll definitely learn from these heartbreaking losses. Again, it's too early to panic guys.
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Re: GT: Bucks @ Nets 11/6 - 7:30 EST 

Post#25 » by Decipher » Tue Nov 7, 2023 12:06 pm

Don’t agree with the criticism of Cam at all

He’s 22, nowhere near the finished article and this isn’t our year anyway

Give me him on a rookie contract before LaVine & many, many others
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Re: GT: Bucks @ Nets 11/6 - 7:30 EST 

Post#26 » by Hello Brooklyn » Tue Nov 7, 2023 4:33 pm

Cam is putting up nearly 30 points at 22 and you guys are still saying he should have been benched. LMAO.

Are you insane? Hes one of the best scorers in the league at 22!!!! And this is his first year getting minutes.
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Post#27 » by Marvin Martian » Tue Nov 7, 2023 8:56 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:Cam is putting up nearly 30 points at 22 and you guys are still saying he should have been benched. LMAO.

Are you insane? Hes one of the best scorers in the league at 22!!!! And this is his first year getting minutes.

Benching Thomas is the only way he will learn to pass the ball. Putting him on a talent starved team like this, will only re enforce his bad habits and tunnel vision.



If Kenny Atkinson was here, Thomas would have a much higher ceiling, because he would not put up with his chucking and bench him immediately like he did with Dlo.
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Re: GT: Bucks @ Nets 11/6 - 7:30 EST 

Post#28 » by Hello Brooklyn » Tue Nov 7, 2023 9:33 pm

Marvin Martian wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:Cam is putting up nearly 30 points at 22 and you guys are still saying he should have been benched. LMAO.

Are you insane? Hes one of the best scorers in the league at 22!!!! And this is his first year getting minutes.

Benching Thomas is the only way he will learn to pass the ball. Putting him on a talent starved team like this, will only re enforce his bad habits and tunnel vision.



If Kenny Atkinson was here, Thomas would have a much higher ceiling, because he would not put up with his chucking and bench him immediately like he did with Dlo.


Youre telling him to pass the ball when he scores efficiently and this team has basically no other offensive creators besides Bridges?

Insane how he is shooting close to 50% as a guard at age 22 and youre calling him a chucker. :lol:

What exactly is Cam passing the ball going to do to improve the team? Create more shot for Ben Simmon?

We NEED his scoring desperately. It keeps us in games.
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Post#29 » by Marvin Martian » Wed Nov 8, 2023 3:08 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
Marvin Martian wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:Cam is putting up nearly 30 points at 22 and you guys are still saying he should have been benched. LMAO.

Are you insane? Hes one of the best scorers in the league at 22!!!! And this is his first year getting minutes.

Benching Thomas is the only way he will learn to pass the ball. Putting him on a talent starved team like this, will only re enforce his bad habits and tunnel vision.



If Kenny Atkinson was here, Thomas would have a much higher ceiling, because he would not put up with his chucking and bench him immediately like he did with Dlo.


Youre telling him to pass the ball when he scores efficiently and this team has basically no other offensive creators besides Bridges?

Insane how he is shooting close to 50% as a guard at age 22 and youre calling him a chucker. :lol:

What exactly is Cam passing the ball going to do to improve the team? Create more shot for Ben Simmon?

We NEED his scoring desperately. It keeps us in games.


No. I want him to pass the ball when his teammates are open. IDK why you are bringing up Ben Simmons. We have a lot of good shooters on this team and a rim runner in Claxton.

If Thomas even had an even average BBIQ with his scoring he would average at least 6 assists a game.

And yes he is a chucker. Just because it goes in doesn't mean it was a good decision. Against good teams, decision making is critical to winning and Cam routinely makes the wrong one.
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Re: GT: Bucks @ Nets 11/6 - 7:30 EST 

Post#30 » by bubonicphoniks » Wed Nov 8, 2023 5:23 am

I don't think Cam needs to be benched...maybe just at the end of games until he can come up with something other than try to go Kobe.

I think the last 2 years he was benched for his lack of passing and poor shot selection/gunning/tunnel vision.

So this is the Cam thats conceivably already learned his lesson lol.

Hoping these past few games have been good learning experiences but he still has a lot to develop. Im looking past the points. Stats dont say everything.
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Re: GT: Bucks @ Nets 11/6 - 7:30 EST 

Post#31 » by Hello Brooklyn » Wed Nov 8, 2023 11:24 pm

Marvin Martian wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
Marvin Martian wrote:Benching Thomas is the only way he will learn to pass the ball. Putting him on a talent starved team like this, will only re enforce his bad habits and tunnel vision.



If Kenny Atkinson was here, Thomas would have a much higher ceiling, because he would not put up with his chucking and bench him immediately like he did with Dlo.


Youre telling him to pass the ball when he scores efficiently and this team has basically no other offensive creators besides Bridges?

Insane how he is shooting close to 50% as a guard at age 22 and youre calling him a chucker. :lol:

What exactly is Cam passing the ball going to do to improve the team? Create more shot for Ben Simmon?

We NEED his scoring desperately. It keeps us in games.


No. I want him to pass the ball when his teammates are open. IDK why you are bringing up Ben Simmons. We have a lot of good shooters on this team and a rim runner in Claxton.

If Thomas even had an even average BBIQ with his scoring he would average at least 6 assists a game.

And yes he is a chucker. Just because it goes in doesn't mean it was a good decision. Against good teams, decision making is critical to winning and Cam routinely makes the wrong one.


Claxton has barely played this season.

There are so many times when the offense is completely stagnant and the only person who can score is Cam. Thats just an objective fact.

The ball going in isn't a good decision. Ok :lol:

A chucker is somebody who is taking bad shots. Not scoring the ball efficiently.

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