GT: Nets @ Heat 11/16 7:30 PM EST. Keep rollin

[TheNetsFan]

It feels like 50%+ of the possessions go to the last 3 seconds of the shot clock all game.

A lot, maybe most of that, falls on Dinwiddie. He pounds it and take a late shot or makes a late pass for a rushed shot. It makes his assist to turnover ratio look great, but this team needs to get into early offense.

[Dangun]

Oh, also hope everyone has given up on this team to be good defensively despite having multiple good defenders.

Oh also the offense looks EXACTLY the same as post KD trade. Wait it looks worse cuz Mikal is getting 0 elbow touches.

Happy that the "need an off season" excuse has gone away. Everything is as clear as day. Bottom 5 coaching. Better than Nash (all time bad) but still trash.

[3pt_chucker]

It feels like 50%+ of the possessions go to the last 3 seconds of the shot clock all game.

A lot, maybe most of that, falls on Dinwiddie. He pounds it and take a late shot or makes a late pass for a rushed shot. It makes his assist to turnover ratio look great, but this team needs to get into early offense.

Why are we blaming Dinwiddie as if this is not by design?

This is what the "offense" is supposed to look like.

[Marvin Martian]

Royce O'Neale has been awful. A team worst -22. JV loves inserting him in small ball lineups, but he isn't good enough on either end of the floor.

He should be traded for a backup big man

[Marvin Martian]

Oh, also hope everyone has given up on this team to be good defensively despite having multiple good defenders.

Oh also the offense looks EXACTLY the same as post KD trade. Wait it looks worse cuz Mikal is getting 0 elbow touches.

Happy that the "need an off season" excuse has gone away. Everything is as clear as day. Bottom 5 coaching. Better than Nash (all time bad) but still trash.

The problem is that aside from Bridges and DFS, the rest of our good defenders have offensive limitations (Claxton, DSJ, Simmons), and JV seems to favor offense over defense so this team is a lock to be bottom 10 defensively

[JoseRizal]

Mikal's scoring performance vs. last season is day and night.

2022-23 - 27 games, 26.1ppg (18.6 attempts) on 48%/38%/89% splits. 6.6 FTA's & 1.8 turnovers.

2023-24 - 12 games, 20.3ppg (16.6 attempts) on 45%/30%/84% splits. 4.3 FTA's & 2.5 turnovers.

He needs to improve his efficiency and turnovers. He also needs to increase his FTA's

[3pt_chucker]

Oh, also hope everyone has given up on this team to be good defensively despite having multiple good defenders.

Oh also the offense looks EXACTLY the same as post KD trade. Wait it looks worse cuz Mikal is getting 0 elbow touches.

Happy that the "need an off season" excuse has gone away. Everything is as clear as day. Bottom 5 coaching. Better than Nash (all time bad) but still trash.

The problem is that aside from Bridges and DFS, the rest of our good defenders have offensive limitations (Claxton, DSJ, Simmons), and JV seems to favor offense over defense so this team is a lock to be bottom 10 defensively

THe same JV that said this team is built on defense? LOL

[Karate Diop]

Mikal's scoring performance vs. last season is day and night.

2022-23 - 27 games, 26.1ppg (18.6 attempts) on 48%/38%/89% splits. 6.6 FTA's & 1.8 turnovers.

2023-24 - 12 games, 20.3ppg (16.6 attempts) on 45%/30%/84% splits. 4.3 FTA's & 2.5 turnovers.

He needs to improve his efficiency and turnovers. He also needs to increase his FTA's

The big dropoff is the three-point shooting, which is abnormally low right now.

Would like to see more aggression out of him though, he deferred too willingly to Cam early on.

[JoseRizal]

Mikal's scoring performance vs. last season is day and night.

2022-23 - 27 games, 26.1ppg (18.6 attempts) on 48%/38%/89% splits. 6.6 FTA's & 1.8 turnovers.

2023-24 - 12 games, 20.3ppg (16.6 attempts) on 45%/30%/84% splits. 4.3 FTA's & 2.5 turnovers.

He needs to improve his efficiency and turnovers. He also needs to increase his FTA's

The big dropoff is the three-point shooting, which is abnormally low right now.

Would like to see more aggression out of him though, he deferred too willingly to Cam early on.

To me what sticks out is his turn overs. He has lesser attempts (due to him deferring to Cam T), but his TOs increased by 40%. He tends to be sloppier with the ball with his iso attempts. JV needs to start setting him up with plays rather than allow him to create for himself, which is not ideal due to his offensive limitations.

[Luke Skywalker]

Mikal's scoring performance vs. last season is day and night.

2022-23 - 27 games, 26.1ppg (18.6 attempts) on 48%/38%/89% splits. 6.6 FTA's & 1.8 turnovers.

2023-24 - 12 games, 20.3ppg (16.6 attempts) on 45%/30%/84% splits. 4.3 FTA's & 2.5 turnovers.

He needs to improve his efficiency and turnovers. He also needs to increase his FTA's

The big dropoff is the three-point shooting, which is abnormally low right now.

Would like to see more aggression out of him though, he deferred too willingly to Cam early on.

To me what sticks out is his turn overs. He has lesser attempts (due to him deferring to Cam T), but his TOs increased by 40%. He tends to be sloppier with the ball with his iso attempts. JV needs to start setting him up with plays rather than allow him to create for himself, which is not ideal due to his offensive limitations.

Yeah, bridges is simply not a playmaker, and he will probably never be one. IMO, he is just a good gun like CamJ.

[TheNetsFan]

It feels like 50%+ of the possessions go to the last 3 seconds of the shot clock all game.

A lot, maybe most of that, falls on Dinwiddie. He pounds it and take a late shot or makes a late pass for a rushed shot. It makes his assist to turnover ratio look great, but this team needs to get into early offense.

Why are we blaming Dinwiddie as if this is not by design?

This is what the "offense" is supposed to look like.

No it's not. When Cam T and Ben are playing, you see the team trying to get into sets and attack much quicker. Dinwiddie does not pressure defenses consistently enough. He's indecisive and too turnover averse to be the primary PG.

[Minnamaker]

This was the worst 4th quarter defense I have ever seen. If Miami would not have missed like 10 wide open threes, this would have been a 25+ point blowout. Whatever jv was thinking trapping fullcourt. It clearly does not work or was executed like trash.
Also not having Simmons hurts against Butler.

I'm not mad. Heat were to physical and as bad as Simmons looks sometimes he is important for our pace. We were due to a tough night offensively without Simmons and Thomas.

Just please don't ever play defense like that 4th quarter no more

[ArksNetsSince99]

Tune in tomorrow when the team formally known as the NJ Nets turn Heat 6 game W streak mojo into their own giving Miami the origin of their L streak


Hollywood Nets

VS

Wolfpac Heat

Injury Report

Nets
Ben Simmons
Cam Thomas

Heat
RJ Hampton
Tyler Herro

3 for III

Spoiler:

Watch on YouTube

Let’s pretend yesterday didn’t happen , you still on winning streak mate

[ArksNetsSince99]

Oh, also hope everyone has given up on this team to be good defensively despite having multiple good defenders.

Oh also the offense looks EXACTLY the same as post KD trade. Wait it looks worse cuz Mikal is getting 0 elbow touches.

Happy that the "need an off season" excuse has gone away. Everything is as clear as day. Bottom 5 coaching. Better than Nash (all time bad) but still trash.

I’m trying to find worst 4 HC in the league than Vaughn and I’m having trouble with it

Like I said even last year , Vaughn is bearded Nash , only upside is he might be better motivator ( Nash was flat even in this department)

[ArksNetsSince99]

Mikal's scoring performance vs. last season is day and night.

2022-23 - 27 games, 26.1ppg (18.6 attempts) on 48%/38%/89% splits. 6.6 FTA's & 1.8 turnovers.

2023-24 - 12 games, 20.3ppg (16.6 attempts) on 45%/30%/84% splits. 4.3 FTA's & 2.5 turnovers.

He needs to improve his efficiency and turnovers. He also needs to increase his FTA's

The big dropoff is the three-point shooting, which is abnormally low right now.

Would like to see more aggression out of him though, he deferred too willingly to Cam early on.

To me what sticks out is his turn overs. He has lesser attempts (due to him deferring to Cam T), but his TOs increased by 40%. He tends to be sloppier with the ball with his iso attempts. JV needs to start setting him up with plays rather than allow him to create for himself, which is not ideal due to his offensive limitations.

Bridges is not an ISO player, last year was a fluke because teams didn’t game plan for him after the trade, he is not A2 or B1 type of a player , like you said he needs to be set and occasionally create or drive when opportunities are there , setting him up for an ISO it’s a failure, he is not that

[ArksNetsSince99]

Mikal's scoring performance vs. last season is day and night.

2022-23 - 27 games, 26.1ppg (18.6 attempts) on 48%/38%/89% splits. 6.6 FTA's & 1.8 turnovers.

2023-24 - 12 games, 20.3ppg (16.6 attempts) on 45%/30%/84% splits. 4.3 FTA's & 2.5 turnovers.

He needs to improve his efficiency and turnovers. He also needs to increase his FTA's

The big dropoff is the three-point shooting, which is abnormally low right now.

Would like to see more aggression out of him though, he deferred too willingly to Cam early on.

More aggression means more turnovers, he is not what most pretend here he is

[3pt_chucker]

The big dropoff is the three-point shooting, which is abnormally low right now.

Would like to see more aggression out of him though, he deferred too willingly to Cam early on.

To me what sticks out is his turn overs. He has lesser attempts (due to him deferring to Cam T), but his TOs increased by 40%. He tends to be sloppier with the ball with his iso attempts. JV needs to start setting him up with plays rather than allow him to create for himself, which is not ideal due to his offensive limitations.

Bridges is not an ISO player, last year was a fluke because teams didn’t game plan for him after the trade, he is not A2 or B1 type of a player , like you said he needs to be set and occasionally create or drive when opportunities are there , setting him up for an ISO it’s a failure, he is not that

Thank you. Blows my mind how people can't recognize this.

[Minnamaker]

Hopefully Nets - Fans start appreciate Bridges for who he is again, and not being sad because he's not the player many thought he will be.

He does not have the height a KD/future wemby has to shoot over anybody. He does not have the quickness and handles smaller guards like steph and Kyrie have. He does not have the physics and strength Lebron, kawhi, Butler, giannis etc have. I don't think he is meant to be a #1 Option.

He is a top tier defender with great basketball IQ, a team first player, an iron man, a great off ball player and a good #3 option, maybe even #2. IMO this is awesome. Play him to his strength and enjoy the good vibes

[ChuckS]

A lot, maybe most of that, falls on Dinwiddie. He pounds it and take a late shot or makes a late pass for a rushed shot. It makes his assist to turnover ratio look great, but this team needs to get into early offense.

Why are we blaming Dinwiddie as if this is not by design?

This is what the "offense" is supposed to look like.

No it's not. When Cam T and Ben are playing, you see the team trying to get into sets and attack much quicker. Dinwiddie does not pressure defenses consistently enough. He's indecisive and too turnover averse to be the primary PG.

Great post in three sentences. I wish I could do that.

I'm not sure about the indecisiveness, but I have seen what you term "turnover averse". I always believed it to be a plus, and would be in a real motion offense. We are loaded with 3 and D players used to playing with superstars. Last year after KD everyone would go to their favorite spots, but no defender was leaving them to double or cheat. As a result Spencer would indeed pound the ball while no one was cutting or attempting to run off screens. Eventually someone would come out as an outlet, then immediately throw the ball back to Dinwiddie and he had to shoot or force penetration. It's better this year, but maybe it is a flaw. I definitely think he's forgoing a strength in not going to the rim, this year. For some reason he seems to be limiting himself to threes. I'm just not sure if it is him, by offensive design or mandate, or our early starter absences and constantly different new contributors.

But I agree he will not throw a pass with a defender in front of an immobile offensive player. Now that you see the same thing, I'm just not sure if it is a blessing or a curse. I do, however, think he helped our previous turnover problems (this last game not being an example of such, though).

[MaxZaslofskyJr]

re: Bridges
Better at Guard? Forward? Doesn't matter?