ImageImageImageImageImage

NY - MIAMI Trade Proposal

Moderators: Jeff Van Gully, dakomish23, Capn'O, j4remi, Deeeez Knicks, NoLayupRule, GONYK, mpharris36, HerSports85

User avatar
HarthorneWingo
RealGM
Posts: 91,591
And1: 56,518
Joined: May 16, 2005
Location: In Your Head, USA
   

NY - MIAMI Trade Proposal 

Post#1 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Jan 3, 2008 5:44 am

This is the first trade proposal I have ever posted . . . and it's a permutation of another member's post, so I can't even take full credit for it. But I think it makes sense. It seems to me that the Heat need some low post scoring. And I would like to un-do the Zach trade and get him outta here, so here it is:

Zach Randolph and Nate Robinson to Miami for Udonis Halsem and Jason Williams.

We can some limited point guard help (and an expiring contract) plus we get a more complimentary power forward to Eddy Curry.

Miami gets some low post scoring without giving up much in the rebounding department in Randolph. Plus, in getting Nate, they get some firepower off the bench. I would agree to substitute Fred Jones for Nate if Riley determined he wanted a more defensive minded guard.

I don't know if the contract numbers work out, but there it is for your thoughts.
User avatar
rrosario35
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,946
And1: 92
Joined: Jun 20, 2006

 

Post#2 » by rrosario35 » Thu Jan 3, 2008 1:40 pm

hmm... I'd have to think about it but probably Yes
StutterStep
RealGM
Posts: 30,424
And1: 58
Joined: Jul 04, 2005
Location: WAIVED

 

Post#3 » by StutterStep » Thu Jan 3, 2008 1:44 pm

They're not giving us Haslem. Take him and Nate out and replace with Ricky Davis. Much simpler and cleaner because we are in no position to be giving up young talent without getting a pick back.
duetta
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 31,421
And1: 12,857
Joined: Aug 28, 2002
Location: Patrolling the middle....

 

Post#4 » by duetta » Thu Jan 3, 2008 1:51 pm

The Randolph for Davis-Williams deal makes a lot of sense at this point. It has a chance of putting the wood psychologically back into Mr. Softee (Eddy Curry), puts the team back into position to be under the cap at the end of Marbury's deal, and establishes a reasonable rotation. The Knicks would still have to cut someone, but at this point, that shouldn't be a big deal. It's time to set Malik free. He's spent enough time in purgatory....
User avatar
Flash3
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 52,635
And1: 403
Joined: Oct 21, 2004
Location: L-I-M-R

 

Post#5 » by Flash3 » Thu Jan 3, 2008 2:35 pm

Unless you're sending the money for Randolph's salary, then No!
Mars wrote:You can't stop the asterisk... you can only hope to contain it.
chitownsports4ever
Forum Mod
Forum Mod
Posts: 22,535
And1: 3,959
Joined: Jan 30, 2002
Location: southside of chicago
       

 

Post#6 » by chitownsports4ever » Thu Jan 3, 2008 2:49 pm

So what do you do with lee ?
Got a Gold Name Plate that says "I wish you would"
FKF
RealGM
Posts: 11,092
And1: 930
Joined: Nov 08, 2001
   

 

Post#7 » by FKF » Thu Jan 3, 2008 2:55 pm

not a good idea, Jason Williams wouldn't solve any of our issues.

David Lee should be our starter at PF for years now, so no need for Haslem too.
Think the Kings would bite on a Zach trade involving Artest?
New-York Knicks fan since 1998, based in Paris, FR.
gelo05
Junior
Posts: 301
And1: 4
Joined: Apr 11, 2006

 

Post#8 » by gelo05 » Thu Jan 3, 2008 3:14 pm

I proposed a similar deal a few weeks back, but it expanded a bit more to the knicks favor.

I would still do this deal. this probably would def be accepted by the heat.
chitownsports4ever
Forum Mod
Forum Mod
Posts: 22,535
And1: 3,959
Joined: Jan 30, 2002
Location: southside of chicago
       

 

Post#9 » by chitownsports4ever » Thu Jan 3, 2008 3:16 pm

TO Sac

Haslem


To NY

Artest +Jwill


To Mia

Randolph
Got a Gold Name Plate that says "I wish you would"
tommydee10
Junior
Posts: 347
And1: 0
Joined: Oct 23, 2007

 

Post#10 » by tommydee10 » Thu Jan 3, 2008 3:53 pm

gelo05 wrote:I proposed a similar deal a few weeks back, but it expanded a bit more to the knicks favor.

I would still do this deal. this probably would def be accepted by the heat.


LOL "probably would def"?

That's the funniest thing I've ever read...

Uh sorry, no chance the heat give up haslem for more contract.

they're trying to shed contract.

And why would they give us cap relief for zach and nate?
User avatar
Fury
RealGM
Posts: 23,024
And1: 15,367
Joined: Mar 07, 2007
       

 

Post#11 » by Fury » Thu Jan 3, 2008 4:00 pm

chitownsports4ever wrote:TO Sac

Haslem


To NY

Artest +Jwill


To Mia

Randolph


+1.
User avatar
HarthorneWingo
RealGM
Posts: 91,591
And1: 56,518
Joined: May 16, 2005
Location: In Your Head, USA
   

 

Post#12 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Jan 3, 2008 8:07 pm

FKF wrote:not a good idea, Jason Williams wouldn't solve any of our issues.

David Lee should be our starter at PF for years now, so no need for Haslem too.
Think the Kings would bite on a Zach trade involving Artest?


Jason Williams has an expiring contract I believe. And he could be our back-up point guard for the rest of the year.
User avatar
HarthorneWingo
RealGM
Posts: 91,591
And1: 56,518
Joined: May 16, 2005
Location: In Your Head, USA
   

 

Post#13 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Jan 3, 2008 8:08 pm

tommydee10 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



LOL "probably would def"?

That's the funniest thing I've ever read...

Uh sorry, no chance the heat give up haslem for more contract.

they're trying to shed contract.

And why would they give us cap relief for zach and nate?


. . . maybe because Zach gives them some low post scoring punch to loosen up the outside for Wade and Davis?
User avatar
HarthorneWingo
RealGM
Posts: 91,591
And1: 56,518
Joined: May 16, 2005
Location: In Your Head, USA
   

 

Post#14 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Jan 3, 2008 8:09 pm

chitownsports4ever wrote:So what do you do with lee ?


Lee splits time with Haslem and Curry.
shaqfan1
General Manager
Posts: 8,436
And1: 4
Joined: Dec 13, 2004

 

Post#15 » by shaqfan1 » Thu Jan 3, 2008 10:57 pm

JWill > Nate (especially since JWill is a $9 million expiring contract)

Haslem > Zach (Haslem fits our team better and has a better contract, if Zach and Eddy didn't work, why would we try to make Zach and Shaq to work?)

So, yeah. The Heat says no.
DuckIII wrote:All 3 of them joining forces in Miami is the NBA's worst nightmare (shared by TNT, ABC, and ESPN)...it is a simple, irrefutable fact, that Wade/LeBron/Bosh in Miami is pretty much the worst possible result from a business perspective.
ctorres
RealGM
Posts: 15,617
And1: 3,579
Joined: Jun 04, 2005

 

Post#16 » by ctorres » Thu Jan 3, 2008 11:07 pm

Miami has low post scoring with Shaq. Randolph would not fit alongside Shaq.
duetta
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 31,421
And1: 12,857
Joined: Aug 28, 2002
Location: Patrolling the middle....

 

Post#17 » by duetta » Fri Jan 4, 2008 12:08 am

chitownsports4ever wrote:TO Sac

Haslem


To NY

Artest +Jwill


To Mia

Randolph


Done.
duetta
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 31,421
And1: 12,857
Joined: Aug 28, 2002
Location: Patrolling the middle....

 

Post#18 » by duetta » Fri Jan 4, 2008 12:09 am

ctorres wrote:Miami has low post scoring with Shaq. Randolph would not fit alongside Shaq.


Zack doesn't fit anywhere. But maybe Riley is feeling desperate. We can always hope.
JAX
Veteran
Posts: 2,513
And1: 0
Joined: May 21, 2002

 

Post#19 » by JAX » Fri Jan 4, 2008 3:33 am

What about:

Zach QRich Morris

for

Williams Davis Blount
StutterStep
RealGM
Posts: 30,424
And1: 58
Joined: Jul 04, 2005
Location: WAIVED

 

Post#20 » by StutterStep » Fri Jan 4, 2008 9:39 am

ctorres wrote:Miami has low post scoring with Shaq. Randolph would not fit alongside Shaq.


What are you talking about? What Zach has over Haslem and why he fits with Shaq is that he also rebounds while having the ability to create his shot off the dribble from 17ft out, and he can hit the 20foot jumper with consistency.

If you play Wade/Shaq on one side of the court, teams still have to respect the weakside with Zach. Wheras with Haslem, they don't because Haslem gets his shot off putbacks and jumpers from the foul line down.

This opens up Miami's offense and Haslem can play next to Zach when Shaq goes to the bench.

Return to New York Knicks