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Re: PG: Knicks Tamp On Sixers Maxey Pad

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 4:11 pm
by Wildcat
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All right, damn that got me good.

Re: PG: Knicks Tamp On Sixers Maxey Pad

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 4:15 pm
by Wildcat
Knick4Real wrote:
KOA wrote:
Knick4Real wrote:
For the moment it seems that way. However, Bogs is the expiring contract the KNICKS will use to land the "big fish" they're going after. They basically replaced Fournier with Bogs, who will be a valuable contract and tradeable asset in a few months.


But that's exactly what Fournier was, a valuable contract.
So the Knicks gave up a valuable contract, a young 3/D prospect, and 2 second rounders for a valuable contract?

It was a bit depressing seeing Bogs and Burks struggle in garbage time.
They really struggle on being efficient scorers trying to create their own shots. So many turnovers and terrible shots.

The best bet is to sprinkle them in when Brunson or Randle are in the game to play off the ball and just be spot up shooters.
Still a terrible trade.


Fournier was rotting on the bench with permanent DNP/CD status. He was for sure frustrated and could have been becoming a cancer in the locker room. We were also likely close to an intervention from the player's association.

Picking up his option just to keep him sitting on the bench was probably no longer an option. Also, with all the injuries, we can't really judge yet how Bogs will help this team -- particularly come playoff time.

Just wait until all the pieces are back and we'll see how it fits.


NBPA would absolutely not step in at any point for something as trivial of this. I also think Evan was a good soldier for the most part.

But you're right. You can't judge these pieces until the team is whole. If anything, watching Miles develop confidence is probably worth the expense of losing Grimes.

Re: PG: Knicks Tamp On Sixers Maxey Pad

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 4:18 pm
by Wildcat
Zenzibar wrote:Please watch the next game, with an eye on the off-ball help defense by OG.

Rarely have I seen a player with such an elite level help defense. Who is and how many are better?


Him and a healthy Mitch would be amazing.

Re: PG: Knicks Tamp On Sixers Maxey Pad

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 4:50 pm
by iLLmatic860
Wildcat wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:Please watch the next game, with an eye on the off-ball help defense by OG.

Rarely have I seen a player with such an elite level help defense. Who is and how many are better?


Him and a healthy Mitch would be amazing.

I really can't wait until Mitch comes back

Re: PG: Knicks Tamp On Sixers Maxey Pad

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 5:05 pm
by Knicksfan1992
Wildcat wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:Please watch the next game, with an eye on the off-ball help defense by OG.

Rarely have I seen a player with such an elite level help defense. Who is and how many are better?


Him and a healthy Mitch would be amazing.


I know people say this with Mitch a lot but, the numbers with Hartensteing are INSANE and going to be hard to beat.

OG w/Hartenstein per CleaningtheGlass: 100.7 points allowed per 100. 100th percentile defensively

When you remove Hartenstein and make Sims the Center it moves up to 104.8 which is still in the 98th percentile :lol:

Basically OG with a decent rim protector almost guarantees you a top flight defense.

The scary thing that the Knicks didn't have before is now they have a possibility of a small ball death lineup with Precious at C.

OG w/ Precious as the C is at 95.9 pts against per 100 possessions, but offensively they are at 126.4 per 100 possessions :o

100th percentile defensively and 98th percentile offensively. Video game type stuff lol

Now if we can get a healthy Randle, then think about how scary we can become.

OG/Randle/Precious has a small sample size. About 83 possessions worth but, we are a staggering +49.3 per 100 possessions in those minutes.

The added spacing of Precious at the 5 would let Randle FEAST. Same with Hartenstein.

Please Randle get healthy :pray: :pray: :pray:

Re: PG: Knicks Tamp On Sixers Maxey Pad

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 5:48 pm
by thebuzzardman
Knicksfan1992 wrote:
Wildcat wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:Please watch the next game, with an eye on the off-ball help defense by OG.

Rarely have I seen a player with such an elite level help defense. Who is and how many are better?


Him and a healthy Mitch would be amazing.


I know people say this with Mitch a lot but, the numbers with Hartensteing are INSANE and going to be hard to beat.

OG w/Hartenstein per CleaningtheGlass: 100.7 points allowed per 100. 100th percentile defensively

When you remove Hartenstein and make Sims the Center it moves up to 104.8 which is still in the 98th percentile :lol:

Basically OG with a decent rim protector almost guarantees you a top flight defense.

The scary thing that the Knicks didn't have before is now they have a possibility of a small ball death lineup with Precious at C.

OG w/ Precious as the C is at 95.9 pts against per 100 possessions, but offensively they are at 126.4 per 100 possessions :o

100th percentile defensively and 98th percentile offensively. Video game type stuff lol

Now if we can get a healthy Randle, then think about how scary we can become.

OG/Randle/Precious has a small sample size. About 83 possessions worth but, we are a staggering +49.3 per 100 possessions in those minutes.

The added spacing of Precious at the 5 would let Randle FEAST. Same with Hartenstein.

Please Randle get healthy :pray: :pray: :pray:

3 guards, OG at PF and Precious at C is a thing of beauty

Re: PG: Knicks Tamp On Sixers Maxey Pad

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 8:07 pm
by Deeeez Knicks
Very inefficient player

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Re: PG: Knicks Tamp On Sixers Maxey Pad

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 8:13 pm
by sol537
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Very inefficient player

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This is why the front office needs to buy him out(or waive him) to save Thibs from himself.

100% of those Burks' minutes should be going to McBride, DDV, or Hart, now that OG is back. Milton is the last resort. Don't need Burks.

Re: PG: Knicks Tamp On Sixers Maxey Pad

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 8:18 pm
by 8516knicks
thebuzzardman wrote:
Knicksfan1992 wrote:
Wildcat wrote:
Him and a healthy Mitch would be amazing.


I know people say this with Mitch a lot but, the numbers with Hartensteing are INSANE and going to be hard to beat.

OG w/Hartenstein per CleaningtheGlass: 100.7 points allowed per 100. 100th percentile defensively

When you remove Hartenstein and make Sims the Center it moves up to 104.8 which is still in the 98th percentile :lol:

Basically OG with a decent rim protector almost guarantees you a top flight defense.

The scary thing that the Knicks didn't have before is now they have a possibility of a small ball death lineup with Precious at C.

OG w/ Precious as the C is at 95.9 pts against per 100 possessions, but offensively they are at 126.4 per 100 possessions :o

100th percentile defensively and 98th percentile offensively. Video game type stuff lol


The Villanova Raptors. :lol:

Re: PG: Knicks Tamp On Sixers Maxey Pad

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 9:00 pm
by KnicksGod
Payne probably has the weirdest jumper ever

Re: PG: Knicks Tamp On Sixers Maxey Pad

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 9:01 pm
by KnicksGod
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Very inefficient player

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Here's the truth too - he'll do it in the playoffs too - I don't think I've ever seen a more selfish and horrible player

I wish Josh Hart would get some of Burks' chucker mojo injected into him - like a small dose

Re: PG: Knicks Tamp On Sixers Maxey Pad

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 9:28 pm
by Chanel Bomber
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Very inefficient player

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Re: PG: Knicks Tamp On Sixers Maxey Pad

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 9:30 pm
by KnixinSix
KnicksGod wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Very inefficient player

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Here's the truth too - he'll do it in the playoffs too - I don't think I've ever seen a more selfish and horrible player

I wish Josh Hart would get some of Burks' chucker mojo injected into him - like a small dose


Between McBrides developing offensive game ,xRandles return and Shake Milton (potentially) Burks usage could end up below 8 minutes a game for the playoffs.

Re: PG: Knicks Tamp On Sixers Maxey Pad

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 9:47 pm
by gavran
KnicksGod wrote:Payne probably has the weirdest jumper ever

He is also really ugly.

Re: PG: Knicks Tamp On Sixers Maxey Pad

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 9:48 pm
by stuporman
Chanel Bomber wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Very inefficient player

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Re: PG: Knicks Tamp On Sixers Maxey Pad

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 9:57 pm
by Chanel Bomber
stuporman wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Very inefficient player

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Re: PG: Knicks Tamp On Sixers Maxey Pad

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 10:25 pm
by Orange Mamba
gavran wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:Payne probably has the weirdest jumper ever

He is also really ugly.


damn :lol:

Re: PG: Knicks Tamp On Sixers Maxey Pad

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 10:30 pm
by j4remi
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Re: PG: Knicks Tamp On Sixers Maxey Pad

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 10:31 pm
by MrDollarBills
I really wanna see OG pull up for some mid range jumpers instead of over dribbling.

That's my one OG critique. I get kinda nervous when he puts the ball on the floor.

Re: PG: Knicks Tamp On Sixers Maxey Pad

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 10:33 pm
by MrDollarBills
KnixinSix wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Very inefficient player

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Here's the truth too - he'll do it in the playoffs too - I don't think I've ever seen a more selfish and horrible player

I wish Josh Hart would get some of Burks' chucker mojo injected into him - like a small dose


Between McBrides developing offensive game ,xRandles return and Shake Milton (potentially) Burks usage could end up below 8 minutes a game for the playoffs.


He should be benched. His ball handling isn't worth dealing with how awful he is efficiency wise.

Deuce and Hart can handle ball handling in the 2nd unit. I need to see what Shake can bring.