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Re: Mitch - Practiced in Full
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 4:28 pm
by aggo
nedleeds wrote:god shammgod wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:
The Wolves didn't have a Brundle and IShart.
Knicks will make it work.
Mitch will thrive backing up the Stifle Tower.
the knicks might very well trade for him but he won't be playing the 5. it will be a randle for towns swap and he'll be playing the 4. the wolves proved it's better this year. why would anyone go back to him at the 5 ?
Wolves are 6+ games better than the Knicks. Why are they trading us their best player again? Because Bing Bong? The only argument I can see if I'm a Wolves fan is financial:
* Gobert's insane contract is untradable without attaching assets.
* KAT's contract which ramps to (
) $61 million and goes out 4 *more* years.
* ANT is our best player and he's 22. Jaden McDaniels is owed $135 and probably needs to have a bigger role.
After Goberts turd is flushed after 2026 Wolves could just go after whoever fits best with Ant. If KAT is there, he'll be declining making $55 million and Ant will be 24 or 25 hitting his prime. Randle's contract expires after 2026 also which pairs with Gobert nicely, assuming he picks up the player option. He can also decline and try and get a new deal.
why laugh at KATs contract?
think about what we're gonna have to pay Randle
hint: he'll hit 61m too.
Re: Mitch - Practiced in Full
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 4:35 pm
by thebuzzardman
god shammgod wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:god shammgod wrote:the wolves gave up every pick they had to move towns away from the center spot because you can't win with him there
The Wolves didn't have a Brundle and IShart.
Knicks will make it work.
Mitch will thrive backing up the Stifle Tower.
the knicks might very well trade for him but he won't be playing the 5. it will be a randle for towns swap and he'll be playing the 4. the wolves proved it's better this year. why would anyone go back to him at the 5 ?
Randle for Towns is a lateral talent move yet the Knicks wind up committing to 20 million more cap space hit. Why?
Re: Mitch - Practiced in Full
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 4:36 pm
by thebuzzardman
god shammgod wrote:mitch literally beat wilt chamberlain's record for shooting percentage one year. how could he have no touch at the rim ? people just say silly stuff on here and feel like they're right because a fat guy and1s them.
Gafford > Mitch
Re: Mitch - Practiced in Full
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 4:41 pm
by nedleeds
god shammgod wrote:nedleeds wrote:god shammgod wrote:
the knicks might very well trade for him but he won't be playing the 5. it will be a randle for towns swap and he'll be playing the 4. the wolves proved it's better this year. why would anyone go back to him at the 5 ?
Wolves are 6+ games better than the Knicks. Why are they trading us their best player again? Because Bing Bong? The only argument I can see if I'm a Wolves fan is financial:
* Gobert's insane contract is untradable without attaching assets.
* KAT's contract which ramps to (
) $61 million and goes out 4 *more* years.
* ANT is our best player and he's 22. Jaden McDaniels is owed $135 and probably needs to have a bigger role.
After Goberts turd is flushed after 2026 Wolves could just go after whoever fits best with Ant. If KAT is there, he'll be declining making $55 million and Ant will be 24 or 25 hitting his prime. Randle's contract expires after 2026 also which pairs with Gobert nicely, assuming he picks up the player option. He can also decline and try and get a new deal.
it would strictly be financial for them. that towns contract is insane and they have never been a franchise that has spent a lot. they have new ownership but they could hardly afford to buy the team. they had to look for an additional partner at the last second. so they might have to cut costs after this year. would the knicks do it ? who knows but i wouldn't put it past them.
Would be a pretty disastrous trade for the Knicks. Towns is predictably a CAA client. So is OG. So OG is getting some insane max deal so Sammy Rose can upgrade his Lambo and beach house on the Island.
Randle is a playoff bum, and now he's hurt, and he selectively tries when things are going well or he's up for a deal but ... his contract is a gem compared to Towns deal. Towns used to hang his hat on durable, but his just had surgery on his knee and a life with the pale Orc will only grind him down more.
Salary is also a little crunchy, we'd need to find $8-10 to add. Donte works, Mitch doesn't.
Re: Mitch - Practiced in Full
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 5:37 pm
by 3toheadmelo
Sham going out like Benzino
Re: Mitch - Practiced in Full
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 5:47 pm
by 3toheadmelo
aggo wrote:nedleeds wrote:god shammgod wrote:
the knicks might very well trade for him but he won't be playing the 5. it will be a randle for towns swap and he'll be playing the 4. the wolves proved it's better this year. why would anyone go back to him at the 5 ?
Wolves are 6+ games better than the Knicks. Why are they trading us their best player again? Because Bing Bong? The only argument I can see if I'm a Wolves fan is financial:
* Gobert's insane contract is untradable without attaching assets.
* KAT's contract which ramps to (
) $61 million and goes out 4 *more* years.
* ANT is our best player and he's 22. Jaden McDaniels is owed $135 and probably needs to have a bigger role.
After Goberts turd is flushed after 2026 Wolves could just go after whoever fits best with Ant. If KAT is there, he'll be declining making $55 million and Ant will be 24 or 25 hitting his prime. Randle's contract expires after 2026 also which pairs with Gobert nicely, assuming he picks up the player option. He can also decline and try and get a new deal.
why laugh at KATs contract?
think about what we're gonna have to pay Randle
hint: he'll hit 61m too.
Randle took a pay cut to help the team in his extension. He’s prob gonna do it again
Re: Mitch - Practiced in Full
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 6:53 pm
by thebuzzardman
Mitch probably breaks his foot 3rd game back
Re: Mitch - Practiced in Full
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 6:58 pm
by HopelessKnick
Chanel Bomber wrote:aggo wrote:podcaster,
well
I take my cues from NYK mentality now.
not a podcaster--
a content creator, fooled by a highlight reel against a mountain of actual evidence that says hes wrong.
ihart > mitch
Oh oh
I don't know if the direct comparison is really fair though. Keep in mind Mitch played nearly all his minutes with the Knicks starting 5 as well as Brunson and Julius in there. Isaiah played many minutes with a weaker bench and many starter minutes on a severaly depleted team. IMO, if taken the context and circumstances into account, if the difference between them is small statistically, which it certainly is, then it actually speaks in favor of Hartenstein.
Re: Mitch - Practiced in Full
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 7:12 pm
by Chanel Bomber
HopelessKnick wrote:Chanel Bomber wrote:aggo wrote:podcaster,
well
I take my cues from NYK mentality now.
not a podcaster--
a content creator, fooled by a highlight reel against a mountain of actual evidence that says hes wrong.
ihart > mitch
Oh oh
I don't know if the direct comparison is really fair though. Keep in mind Mitch played nearly all his minutes with the Knicks starting 5 as well as Brunson and Julius in there. Isaiah played many minutes with a weaker bench and many starter minutes on a severaly depleted team. IMO, if taken the context and circumstances into account, if the difference between them is small statistically, which it certainly is, then it actually speaks in favor of Hartenstein.
Our bench was stronger than our starting five relative to the opposition last year. If anything, this helped iHart in those metrics, and the context you allude to highlighted Mitch's numbers even more.
Re: Mitch - Practiced in Full
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 8:08 pm
by KnicksGod
You can probably play this game forever — I mean, you definitely can.
Think your eyes are showing you how much less dynamic the Knicks offense is with Mitch out there? Nah. I can show you a stat that says otherwise.
Think Mitch is a step slow on D too? What!!?? He’s a great defender.
Think Burks is a slug who doesn’t care or Bog sucks too? Nope.
Think Deuce has a better future than IQ? OMG. Look at all these efficient games he’s amassed.
Never ends. My advice is try to clear your mind and take in subtle things the player does and doesn’t do. I recognize Mitch works very hard and is a really good guy on the boards against certain teams.
But the NBA requires you to pay attention to a lot of things, and numbers are just one tool.
Re: Mitch - Practiced in Full
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 9:01 pm
by RHODEY
thebuzzardman wrote:god shammgod wrote:mitch literally beat wilt chamberlain's record for shooting percentage one year. how could he have no touch at the rim ? people just say silly stuff on here and feel like they're right because a fat guy and1s them.
Gafford > Mitch
Dont agree.
Re: Mitch - Practiced in Full
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 9:13 pm
by nedleeds
aggo wrote:nedleeds wrote:god shammgod wrote:
the knicks might very well trade for him but he won't be playing the 5. it will be a randle for towns swap and he'll be playing the 4. the wolves proved it's better this year. why would anyone go back to him at the 5 ?
Wolves are 6+ games better than the Knicks. Why are they trading us their best player again? Because Bing Bong? The only argument I can see if I'm a Wolves fan is financial:
* Gobert's insane contract is untradable without attaching assets.
* KAT's contract which ramps to (
) $61 million and goes out 4 *more* years.
* ANT is our best player and he's 22. Jaden McDaniels is owed $135 and probably needs to have a bigger role.
After Goberts turd is flushed after 2026 Wolves could just go after whoever fits best with Ant. If KAT is there, he'll be declining making $55 million and Ant will be 24 or 25 hitting his prime. Randle's contract expires after 2026 also which pairs with Gobert nicely, assuming he picks up the player option. He can also decline and try and get a new deal.
why laugh at KATs contract?
think about what we're gonna have to pay Randle
hint: he'll hit 61m too.
He's not CAA, and couldn't get a max offer elsewhere after making fake 2nd team All-NBA after the fake covid season where we were the fake 4th seed. League knows Randle is empty stats, regular season, try when it's convenient. Two teams let Randle walk for nothing, if he gets $55+ from the Knicks just hit the place with a **** meteor.
Re: Mitch - Practiced in Full
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 9:46 pm
by stuporman
god shammgod wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:ol sham gonna have some chest pains hearing this news
you have chest pains walking
Re: Mitch - Practiced in Full
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 10:03 pm
by KnixtapeH20
thebuzzardman wrote:Mitch probably breaks his foot 3rd game back
banned
Re: Mitch - Practiced in Full
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 10:25 pm
by NoDopeOnSundays
3toheadmelo wrote:Sham going out like Benzino
His slander & propaganda used to work when Hartensteinovic was coming off the bench, but we've gotten a full view of him as a starter and all that slander makes sham look like one of them Nation of Islam dudes up in Harlem dressed like a power ranger screaming about how IHart is the devil. He lost bad, Zach Lowe had IHart on his short list of guys who should get a nod for all-defense, it's over for dusty man.
Re: Mitch - Practiced in Full
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 11:00 pm
by aggo
3toheadmelo wrote:aggo wrote:nedleeds wrote:Wolves are 6+ games better than the Knicks. Why are they trading us their best player again? Because Bing Bong? The only argument I can see if I'm a Wolves fan is financial:
* Gobert's insane contract is untradable without attaching assets.
* KAT's contract which ramps to (
) $61 million and goes out 4 *more* years.
* ANT is our best player and he's 22. Jaden McDaniels is owed $135 and probably needs to have a bigger role.
After Goberts turd is flushed after 2026 Wolves could just go after whoever fits best with Ant. If KAT is there, he'll be declining making $55 million and Ant will be 24 or 25 hitting his prime. Randle's contract expires after 2026 also which pairs with Gobert nicely, assuming he picks up the player option. He can also decline and try and get a new deal.
why laugh at KATs contract?
think about what we're gonna have to pay Randle
hint: he'll hit 61m too.
Randle took a pay cut to help the team in his extension. He’s prob gonna do it again
I really doubt it and it is actually evidence that he wont do it again.
perhaps the best we can get out of it is like what Kawhi did where he left a very small amount on the table for the clippers.
hes gonna ask for the max + max escalator.
same with brunson, although with how the bird rights work and the seniority for max contracts he might take a shorter deal with an opt out so that he can get a super max later.
Re: Mitch - Practiced in Full
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 11:09 pm
by spree2kawhi
aggo wrote:nedleeds wrote:god shammgod wrote:
the knicks might very well trade for him but he won't be playing the 5. it will be a randle for towns swap and he'll be playing the 4. the wolves proved it's better this year. why would anyone go back to him at the 5 ?
Wolves are 6+ games better than the Knicks. Why are they trading us their best player again? Because Bing Bong? The only argument I can see if I'm a Wolves fan is financial:
* Gobert's insane contract is untradable without attaching assets.
* KAT's contract which ramps to (
) $61 million and goes out 4 *more* years.
* ANT is our best player and he's 22. Jaden McDaniels is owed $135 and probably needs to have a bigger role.
After Goberts turd is flushed after 2026 Wolves could just go after whoever fits best with Ant. If KAT is there, he'll be declining making $55 million and Ant will be 24 or 25 hitting his prime. Randle's contract expires after 2026 also which pairs with Gobert nicely, assuming he picks up the player option. He can also decline and try and get a new deal.
why laugh at KATs contract?
think about what we're gonna have to pay Randle
hint: he'll hit 61m too.
That’s exactly the problem.
Re: Mitch - Practiced in Full
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 11:10 pm
by spree2kawhi
thebuzzardman wrote:Mitch probably breaks his foot 3rd game back
Re: Mitch - Practiced in Full
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 11:13 pm
by aggo
spree2kawhi wrote:aggo wrote:nedleeds wrote:Wolves are 6+ games better than the Knicks. Why are they trading us their best player again? Because Bing Bong? The only argument I can see if I'm a Wolves fan is financial:
* Gobert's insane contract is untradable without attaching assets.
* KAT's contract which ramps to (
) $61 million and goes out 4 *more* years.
* ANT is our best player and he's 22. Jaden McDaniels is owed $135 and probably needs to have a bigger role.
After Goberts turd is flushed after 2026 Wolves could just go after whoever fits best with Ant. If KAT is there, he'll be declining making $55 million and Ant will be 24 or 25 hitting his prime. Randle's contract expires after 2026 also which pairs with Gobert nicely, assuming he picks up the player option. He can also decline and try and get a new deal.
why laugh at KATs contract?
think about what we're gonna have to pay Randle
hint: he'll hit 61m too.
That’s exactly the problem.
yep. and theres no solution
either u pay him or trade him. and if u trade him, we;d be pissing away brunson years.
so we pay him.
Re: Mitch - Practiced in Full
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 11:19 pm
by Spree2Houston
Mitch is a highly regarded defender amongst his NBA peers. Players fear Mitch in the paint. You could poll all of the NBA players and Mitch would win in a landslide over Hartenstein. I think I’ll trust them more than realgm posters. These are the same people who thought Nerlens Noel and Jericho Sims would take his job lol gtfo