Build a Franchise (Season 7) Discussion thread continued (Announcement on page 85)

[Richard4444]

I am still analyzing offers on Butler. I am kind of busy. I have to do some math and study some players.

[mpharris36]

May 16

BAF DRAFT LOTTERY

just in case people are looking for it

[bishnykfan]

ANNOUNCEMENT

I posted the updated draft order a few days back in the post with the draft position tiebreakers. Please take a look and let me know if you think that a pick is in the wrong place or with a wrong team. Each team is responsible for tracking their picks. The draft lottery will take place Thursday night. Once the lottery is conducted, the official draft order will be set and no changes will be made.

UPDATED DRAFT ORDER (PRE LOTTERY)

1. Memphis Grizzlies
2. Phoenix Suns
3. Minnesota Timberwolves
4. Washington Wizards
5. Houston Rockets
6. Oklahoma City Thunder- via Milwaukee
7. Sacramento Kings
8. Indiana Pacers- via Atlanta
9. Philadelphia 76ers
10. Washington Wizards*- via Indiana
11. Los Angeles Lakers
12. Phoenix Suns- via Boston
13. New York Knicks
14. Los Angeles Lakers- via Denver
15. Sacramento Kings- via Oklahoma City
16. Sacramento Kings- via Brooklyn
17. Cleveland Cavaliers
18. Minnesota Timberwolves- via Detroit
19. Miami Heat
20. Phoenix Suns- via Toronto
21. Portland Trailblazers
22. Philadelphia 76ers- via New Orleans
23. Washington Wizards- via the Clippers
24. Phoenix Suns- via Utah
25. Washington Wizards- via Dallas
26. Minnesota Timberwolves- via Chicago
27. Houston Rockets- via Golden State
28. Atlanta Hawks- via Orlando
29. Sacramento Kings- via Charlotte
30. Sacramento Kings- via San Antonio

31. Oklahoma City Thunder- via Memphis
32. Dallas Mavericks- via Phoenix
33. Dallas Mavericks- via Minnesota
34. Memphis Grizzlies- via Washington
35. Atlanta Hawks- via Milwaukee
36. Houston Rockets
37. Sacramento Kings
38. New Orleans Pelicans- via Atlanta
39. Cleveland Cavaliers- via Philadelphia
40. Philadelphia 76ers- via Indiana
41. San Antonio Spurs- via Oklahoma City
42. San Antonio Spurs- via the Lakers
43. Houston Rockets- via New York
44. Washington Wizards- via Boston
45. Phoenix Suns- via Brooklyn
46. New York Knicks- via Cleveland
47. Washington Wizards- via Denver
48. Minnesota Timberwolves- via Detroit
49. Houston Rockets- via Miami
50. Houston Rockets- via Toronto
51. Philadelphia 76ers- via Portland
52. Washington Wizards- via New Orleans
53. Philadelphia 76ers- via the Clippers
54. Dallas Mavericks- via Utah
55. Dallas Mavericks
56. Utah Jazz- via Golden State
57. Philadelphia 76ers- via Chicago
58. Denver Nuggets- via Charlotte
59. Philadelphia 76ers- via Orlando
60. Washington Wizards- via San Antonio


*- Top 4 protected. Indiana keeps pick if it moves up in the lottery.

[Strick]

Look forward to seeing how both conference finals play out. I think they both could go 6 or 7

Good luck to those of us in the lottery this week. The Minnesota Timberwolves are excited to see where we land to add to our core. The #3 slot is where we are sitting and it has been pretty generous to us the last two years with Banchero and Brandon Miller. We look forward to a playoff push next year

[Capn'O]

News and Notes from 5/13:

- Sim LeBron went for 48 in a losing effort. Sim SGA offers sim drinks on him if the Dallas series goes the same direction as ours

- The wiretap shows life imitating art once again:

Victor Wembanayma 'Intrigued' By Idea Of Playing With Trae Young

- Upon receipt of 1st pick, Memphis GM Terrence Clarke announces that he is not impressed that Sim is developing a sense of humor

[TerrenceClarke]

News and Notes from 5/13:

- Sim LeBron went for 48 in a losing effort. Sim SGA offers sim drinks on him if the Dallas series goes the same direction as ours

- The wiretap shows life imitating art once again:

Victor Wembanayma 'Intrigued' By Idea Of Playing With Trae Young

- Upon receipt of 1st pick, Memphis GM Terrence Clarke announces that he is not impressed that Sim is developing a sense of humor

[Context]

News and Notes from 5/13:

- Sim LeBron went for 48 in a losing effort. Sim SGA offers sim drinks on him if the Dallas series goes the same direction as ours

- The wiretap shows life imitating art once again:

Victor Wembanayma 'Intrigued' By Idea Of Playing With Trae Young

- Upon receipt of 1st pick, Memphis GM Terrence Clarke announces that he is not impressed that Sim is developing a sense of humor

2010 killed it...I think Trae+Wemby+Pop+Adam=Chip in real life

[TerrenceClarke]

[Capn'O]

This is abuse, mpharris.

[MrDollarBills]

Wait...I potentially might have 2 top 10 picks?

[HerSports85]

I still can't believe we let MPH keep Curry and Jokic during the reset.

[NewEra]

I still can't believe we let MPH keep Curry and Jokic during the reset.

We gotta respect the greatness HS. I thought the chip was wide open this year until MPH pulled off the Claxton + Kessler acquisitions. That really narrowed things down and solidified what we’re seeing this year, I believe. No disrespect to you, Deeeez or Melo because I think y’all are worthy opponents and I’m not counting any of you out. But, those two trades helped SAS tremendously. Undefeated in playoffs and close enough to a three-peat has to be respected no matter how you slice it and no matter how much of a competitive nature we have. Credit to MPH.

[Capn'O]

I still can't believe we let MPH keep Curry and Jokic during the reset.

We gotta respect the greatness HS. I thought the chip was wide open this year until MPH pulled off the Claxton + Kessler acquisitions. That really narrowed things down and solidified what we’re seeing this year, I believe. No disrespect to you, Deeeez or Melo because I think y’all are worthy opponents and I’m not counting any of you out. But, those two trades helped SAS tremendously. Undefeated in playoffs and close enough to a three-peat has to be respected no matter how you slice it and no matter how much of a competitive nature we have. Credit to MPH.

He abused my bigs like rag dolls.

[HerSports85]

I still can't believe we let MPH keep Curry and Jokic during the reset.

We gotta respect the greatness HS. I thought the chip was wide open this year until MPH pulled off the Claxton + Kessler acquisitions. That really narrowed things down and solidified what we’re seeing this year, I believe. No disrespect to you, Deeeez or Melo because I think y’all are worthy opponents and I’m not counting any of you out. But, those two trades helped SAS tremendously. Undefeated in playoffs and close enough to a three-peat has to be respected no matter how you slice it and no matter how much of a competitive nature we have. Credit to MPH.

Absolutely nothing but respect, he definitely earned it. My post is really a credit to him, because the Curry contract is a steal.. complete highway robbery. He was focused on his foundation and executed. Most GMs probably thought Curry was going to be too expensive, I know I did and didn't even offer a contract. Let's also talk about the trade for Joker to pair with Curry in the first place, he had a vision and became dominant. I don't think it's a better 2 man.

But I agree, the moves he made to put more defense around those 2 guys and add players that fit his offensive style was impressive. I know trading Porter Jr. and Bane wasn't easy, but it took his team to the next level.

[Manhattan Project]

Anytime there's Jokic talk...

[Depalma2002]

Still listening to offers on Nikola Vucevic. Looking for a 2026 1st and either cap space or expiring contracts to match most or all of the salary.

Now open to at least thinking about offers on Damian Lillard but am not 100% on dealing him so looking for real offers. This isn't a fire sale. Would need a starting point guard on a rookie deal as the start of the package and no long term money that isn't part of a rookie contract so really narrows down any potential offers so it is likely he stays in Orlando.

Kevon Looney is available for 2 non-2024 2nd round picks if anyone is looking for a bargain $1 defensive big.

Might be willing to part with Wendell Carter Jr and Jerami Grant but both are still in my long-term plans so I would need a tempting offer to move either of them.

[DOT]

This draft class sucks, I can't even be excited about 2 lottery picks lol

[Capn'O]

Let's also talk about the trade for Joker to pair with Curry in the first place, he had a vision and became dominant. I don't think it's a better 2 man.

I literally walked around in a stupor for like two days. Over a game. Like, in the history of the NBA maybe Magic and Kareem were a better pairing? Jordan and Scottie? Like, that's the level we're talking about.

[wackbone]

Let's also talk about the trade for Joker to pair with Curry in the first place, he had a vision and became dominant. I don't think it's a better 2 man.

I literally walked around in a stupor for like two days. Over a game. Like, in the history of the NBA maybe Magic and Kareem were a better pairing? Jordan and Scottie? Like, that's the level we're talking about.

I'd have Jokic+Curry over either of those two pairs in terms of playing off eachother at the absolute highest level. And I don't think anything else in history compares.

And FWIW I think you'd have difficulty creating a more optimal pairing than Jokic+Curry. Pick any two players in NBA history. You could make more talented duos but you'd be hard pressed to find a more optimal pairing. Any of the other best bigs of all time are pretty much out, as are the super high usage guards. There is a case to be made for LeBron+someone, but LeBron might be the only other guy in the top 20ish you could use to make an optimal pairing, if that makes sense.

As far as individual talent goes they're ahead of Jordan+Scottie (Scottie is the clear odd man out of the 6) but behind Magic+Kareem, although I'd have them much closer to the latter than the former.

To be in the conversation for talented duos all-time, I think both guys have to be MVPs/playing at a truly MVP level when they're together, and both guys have to be firm top 20ish all-time.

[Capn'O]

Let's also talk about the trade for Joker to pair with Curry in the first place, he had a vision and became dominant. I don't think it's a better 2 man.

I literally walked around in a stupor for like two days. Over a game. Like, in the history of the NBA maybe Magic and Kareem were a better pairing? Jordan and Scottie? Like, that's the level we're talking about.

I'd have Jokic+Curry over either of those two pairs in terms of playing off eachother at the absolute highest level. And I don't think anything else in history compares.

And FWIW I think you'd have difficulty creating a more optimal pairing than Jokic+Curry. Pick any two players in NBA history. You could make more talented duos but you'd be hard pressed to find a more optimal pairing. Any of the other best bigs of all time are pretty much out, as are the super high usage guards. There is a case to be made for LeBron+someone, but LeBron might be the only other guy in the top 20ish you could use to make an optimal pairing, if that makes sense.

As far as individual talent goes they're ahead of Jordan+Scottie (Scottie is the clear odd man out of the 6) but behind Magic+Kareem, although I'd have them much closer to the latter than the former.

To be in the conversation for talented duos all-time, I think both guys have to be MVPs/playing at a truly MVP level when they're together, and both guys have to be firm top 20ish all-time.

It's funny you should mention LeBron because when the trade happened I had PG/SGA/Gobert and ended up trading PG for LeBron just on the whim that I might find something. I didn't find something. Before that I felt I had found a pretty optimal trio that stood a good chance with any of the other major players but once that happened... just very obviously not as good.