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Chanel Bomber wrote:I'm sure it's more complicated than it appears, but the medical staff sure seems to constantly miss the target. I think an extra pair of eyes with some level of oversight is needed there.

Yup. Multiple instances of guys coming back too early now.

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thebuzzardman wrote:

Kidknick! wrote:The minutes and production burden that the Villanova trio is having to carry is starting to show.

Can't fault guys for getting tired, when the subs (Bogdo and Burks) are hot garbage and Bogdo in particular looks like he can no longer move.

This trade has to be considered a pretty big failure on the F/O.

The OG trade not looking so great either. It's great when he plays. The problem is, OG has a history of not playing.

the hoop collective talked about him and said guys in tornoto felt sometimes he could play through pain and he didn't. and maybe that's what josh was talking about.

I dunno. I saw him live in Portland. He was in a LOT of pain. So maybe that's been true other times but I'd err on the side of caution with this one.

god shammgod wrote:they talked about this a little on the hoop collective and said that post all-star break a point of emphasis was to reward guys less who hunt for fouls and they said brunson was one of those guys.

Interesting. That shows. Maybe they've overcompensated though.

They've definitely been looking at his hunting for charges differently.

Capn'O wrote:

god shammgod wrote:

thebuzzardman wrote:
The OG trade not looking so great either. It's great when he plays. The problem is, OG has a history of not playing.

the hoop collective talked about him and said guys in tornoto felt sometimes he could play through pain and he didn't. and maybe that's what josh was talking about.

I dunno. I saw him live in Portland. He was in a LOT of pain. So maybe that's been true other times but I'd err on the side of caution with this one.

i'm just saying what they said. i think it's likely we are bringing guys back a little early for the playoff run.

Capn'O wrote:Interesting. That shows. Maybe they've overcompensated though.

They've definitely been looking at his hunting for charges differently.

I think for Brunson it's more a factor of he's playing fewer minutes and we've slowed our pace down a lot post-ASB

Pace went from 97 pre-ASB to 94 post-ASB, and Brunson has gone from about 36 mpg to under 33, which is a good thing because Thibs isn't wearing him out, but I think that's more the reason why than anything

Cause you look at per36 numbers, his free throws per36 went from 6.3 pre-ASB to 6.0 post-ASB. So slight decline, but not a huge amount. Per100 possessions, from 8.6 pre-ASB to 8.5 post-ASB, virtually identical

You can argue he's been not getting calls all year and I think there's a point there, but people are drastically overstating the difference. Plus, I find it hard to understand how the same people saying the Lakers being #1 in free throw differential over 2 seasons is clear evidence of rigging, but the Knicks at #2 are being rigged against somehow

Every single fanbase feels like the refs are against them personally. At least some of them have to be wrong, mathematically speaking.

Capn'O wrote:

Chanel Bomber wrote:I'm sure it's more complicated than it appears, but the medical staff sure seems to constantly miss the target. I think an extra pair of eyes with some level of oversight is needed there.

Yup. Multiple instances of guys coming back too early now.

Players coming back too early seems to be an indictment on the front office forcing these players to do so for a playoff run. Probs why Randle hasn't shut down the season with surgery when that's probably the right thing to do at this point

Rose needs to overhaul our medical staff to get it to be the best in the league (or rival the best). No reason we shouldn't have the absolute best.

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Yeah seasons over Folkssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Zebras sucked as usual but we missed 11 free throws. Can't beat yourself like that. And the team isn't getting it done when Brunson sits. That lead was erased in like one minute at the start of the 4th.

But we hung in there with one of the best teams in the league. SGA made a tough shot over Deuce and Williams just killed us all game long. We need OG against guys like him. And maybe we should have Chris Hansen at courtside next time we play OKC cause Giddey goes crazy against us for some reason.

We just got to stay in that 4th or 5th slot with Orlando and avoid Miami and Philly. Magic are the one team I think we can beat without Randle, OG and Mitch.

At this point, the 6th seed might be the best seed for us...

Capn'O wrote:

Chanel Bomber wrote:I'm sure it's more complicated than it appears, but the medical staff sure seems to constantly miss the target. I think an extra pair of eyes with some level of oversight is needed there.

Yup. Multiple instances of guys coming back too early now.

Just because a guy reaggravates an injury, it doesn't mean they came back too early. Some guys are just injury prone.

sol537 wrote:At this point, the 6th seed might be the best seed for us...

I'd gladly sign up for a rematch with Cleveland. Although I'm not as confident beating them without Mitch.

We are not beating Miami or Philly w/ Embiid without Randle, OG and Mitch.

We’re losing in the 1st round

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Fatty and the poop collective continue the National attack on Brunson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TheGreenArrow wrote:

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Fatty and the poop collective continue the National attack on Brunson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He's not quoted entirely because it was also said he (JB) does it with footwork alike Harden. Still doesn't excuse no calls when he's clipped, though.

My concern level has reached level 8

Spree2Houston wrote:We’re losing in the 1st round

probably. this version of the team is about a .500 team. .500 teams don't often get out of the 1st round.

even mentality is a little concerned

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Chanel Bomber wrote:The OG extension is a roll of the dice but one the Knicks - maybe more than any other team - have to make.

Our defense (in addition to Brunson) will be the pathway to contention. And we don't have an elite defense without OG. Other semi-realistic pathways contain even more risk.

So we don't have much leverage. We'll just have to pay up. Hopefully OG's camp offer a pay cut but it's not owed to us.

there are some guys where it's baked in that they're gonna miss a lot of time and if you are worried about that you just don't trade for them. you don't get to ask for a discount after. he's 26, he'll be 27 in july. this is his prime and his best time to cash in. he's going to.

everybody is just shocked because we hadn't experienced this yet but the toronto fans were telling us this all along.

Yeah and that's why the Knicks org needed to be overly cautious with the injury and as it appears they weren't. "Ok great news friends he's cleared to play yes yes we can play him 40 minutes right away no problemo", mf no.

HerSports85 wrote:My concern level has reached level 8

I knew OG missed games but I didn't think he was this fragile...