Wildcat wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Wildcat wrote:
The level of your hindsight is unbelievable, mate.
What does winning the game by 16 have anything to do with being up by 17 with 4:30 minutes to go a game? Leads evaporate on a nightly basis here in the NBA. Miami didn't even sub out their starters until about a minute left in the game. The Knicks end game lineup didn't come out of the game until Miami's starters came out. They were still trying to win. Knicks went scoreless for about a minute after the injury. Only scored 10 points in the last 4 minutes. Miami hits a few shots and this is a different game.
Would you be singing the same tune if Thibs put the bench in and cut to 8 or lost the lead? Because if memory serves me right, we've seen these moments where their bench looks like a G-League team. Hate Thibs all you want, but this isn't some kind of poetic krama thing biting him in the ass. Just another **** Heats thing mixed in with some badluck.
You're saying it's hindsight, while coming up with a hypothetical about how Miami could maybe make some shots? I mean, they didn't, I'm basing my argument on the fact we actually won after he got hurt. If it were that critical that he be left in till the very last second then we should have lost that game.
Again, you guys are trying to argue against history, where he has done this with two previous teams, we even saw RJ get hurt in a game that was decided against the Nuggets. Does this need to happen to Jalen before you guys say maybe it's a problem?
If you can use hindsight, why can't I? Fine, let's takeaway hindsight and talk about history.
Facts: Before the injury, the Knicks bench were 26th in the league in PPG. Knicks bench lead the league in committed fouls. Knicks bench was 2nd in committed turnovers. Knicks bench were 25th in FG%. And even in spite of all those low numbers, the Knicks bench ranked 12th in the Knick in MPG.
Knicks have a weak bench. That's history. And history has shown the bench struggles. Especially against a defense like Miami's. Thibs played a 9-man rotation against Miami. Now, this stat is particularly hard to track, but in the 1st half the Knicks bench were +38. In the 2nd half, they were +2. Miami figured something out.
You're using a hypothetical, I'm stating a fact, we kept the lead after he got hurt, your hypothetical is based around the idea that we would have lost had we taken him out at 4:45 instead of 4:30 where he got hurt. Your hypothetical is far more unlikely than what I'm saying, because we won, and it wasn't close even after he got hurt.
He shouldn't have been in the game, we held on after he got hurt. The most important question, was it worth it? Keeping him in the game to hold onto that 17 point lead, which ended up being a 16 point win after he got hurt, was it worth it in the end? He's out for the playoffs and his recovery could bleed into the regular season. History will show another Tom player got hurt late in the game, and his team limped into the playoffs, yet again, because that is a recurring feature of him being a coach. Even when we made the playoffs three years ago it was without Mitch, last year Randle got hurt before them, this year OG, Mitch and Randle. It'll take Jalen getting hurt before you guys finally open your eyes.
