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Re: Gilbert Arenas - It's NY's fault Brunson isn't a star

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 10:44 pm
by Meat
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Isn’t this the same clown who said he would rather have Jalen Green over Brunson and Randle not too long ago?

Ok and? Being wrong one take doesn’t make you wrong on all? When you consider the media impact and overall population of nyc, Jb shoulda Been an all Star starter

Re: Gilbert Arenas - It's NY's fault Brunson isn't a star

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 10:48 pm
by RHODEY
NowWHYcee7 wrote:I usually can't stand Gil, but on a recent podcast he said something I totally agree with.

Jalen Brunson is the most exciting athlete we've had in a long time. He's Jeter like in demeanor, work ethic, ability, etc. He's been playing at an MVP level since he got here. Even when we got Melo we all know it felt fugazi and we weren't really contenders, no slight to Melo. Jalen has transformed the Knicks to an extent not seen in over 30 years, and lifted the spirits of Knicks fans to insane levels. Not to mention that he's "our guy," in that we targeted him when everyone else was sleeping, and acquired him.

So why isn't he bigger than what he is? What's up with our media? What's up with the marketing? We are the TOP media market in the league...but every time I turn on sports radio we are meat-riding some other athlete from some other city. Yeah they acknowledge Jalen's play, but I see and hear more gushing over someone like Wemby, SGA, or Anthony Edwards than Jalen. We saw what happened with the All-star starter snub. So when I watch the national sports coverage, I can't really be shocked at the terrible takes that we've had to endure from Becky Hammon, Candace Parker, etc. WTF is going on? If we aren't even pushing or promoting our own, can we really expect others to?


In my opinion the NY media does give him his props...it's the national media that continues to play down his greatness.

Re: Gilbert Arenas - It's NY's fault Brunson isn't a star

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 11:05 pm
by cgmw
NowWHYcee7 wrote:
cgmw wrote:IDK every time I turn on national NBA news, the talking heads are climbing over themselves to say how disrespected and underrated Brunson is. It's pretty much his brand now. If we beat the Sixers and/or Bucks, expect a lot of David vs. Goliath talk.

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If by the national NBA news, you mean Kendrick Perkins, then yeah.

Perk has made a schtick out of saying it for many months now. SAS, Barkley, Shaq, Woj, that no neck slob from Cleveland, all of them have been on the bandwagon for a while now. The popular narrative is and has been that Jalen Brunson has arrived. Find me a single voice on the national stage saying anything else. Crickets.

Brunson is the National darling underdog of the moment. Fools like Arenas are trying to save face because it is now throughly uncool and debunked to doubt Brunson.

Re: Gilbert Arenas - It's NY's fault Brunson isn't a star

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 11:10 pm
by Deeeez Knicks
Meat wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Isn’t this the same clown who said he would rather have Jalen Green over Brunson and Randle not too long ago?

Ok and? Being wrong one take doesn’t make you wrong on all? When you consider the media impact and overall population of nyc, Jb shoulda Been an all Star starter


The issue is Arenas is in the media and part of the problem. Dude was shiting on the Knicks and dismissing them as much as anyone. Caps analogy was perfect.

The NBA is now world wide. Nyc is maybe 0.1% of the population? We really dont have the sway we once did in terms of national media attention or voting. Most of the media coverage is negative and most casuals see the Knicks as the same ol Knicks because of that. Blaming nyc is a copout when he should be apologizing and blaming himself for underrating Brunson and the knicks.

Arenas is a straight up clown though and no idea why people even listen to him.... That's part of the problem. Too many people listen to fools like that

Re: Gilbert Arenas - It's NY's fault Brunson isn't a star

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 12:31 am
by NYKat
This ‘media capital’ narrative is outdated.

In the age of social media/internet era, NY doesn’t elevate anyone anymore than any other place, this is why Dolan/Leon stopped doing press cause the press is no longer needed to promote the Knicks.

Re: Gilbert Arenas - It's NY's fault Brunson isn't a star

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 1:28 am
by Jalen Bluntson
Knicks for clicks can eat a bag of dicks

Re: Gilbert Arenas - It's NY's fault Brunson isn't a star

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:04 am
by matchman
Deeeez Knicks wrote:
Meat wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Isn’t this the same clown who said he would rather have Jalen Green over Brunson and Randle not too long ago?

Ok and? Being wrong one take doesn’t make you wrong on all? When you consider the media impact and overall population of nyc, Jb shoulda Been an all Star starter


The issue is Arenas is in the media and part of the problem. Dude was shiting on the Knicks and dismissing them as much as anyone. Caps analogy was perfect.

The NBA is now world wide. Nyc is maybe 0.1% of the population? We really dont have the sway we once did in terms of national media attention or voting. Most of the media coverage is negative and most casuals see the Knicks as the same ol Knicks because of that. Blaming nyc is a copout when he should be apologizing and blaming himself for underrating Brunson and the knicks.

Arenas is a straight up clown though and no idea why people even listen to him.... That's part of the problem. Too many people listen to fools like that


If we talk in global scale, Knicks is not as big as we think. Yes we are the Mecca of basketball, but I was surprised by the fact that Knicks only ranked 16th out of 30 teams among Instagram followers.

GSW: 32.6M
LAL: 24.5M
CLE: 16.7M
CHI: 10.2M
BOS: 7.9M
MIA: 6.7M
HOU: 6.3M
OKC: 5.9M
MIL: 5.5M
LAC: 5.3M
SAS: 5.2M
BKN: 4.9M
PHI: 4.3M
DAL: 4.1M
TOR: 4.1M

NYK: 4M

You may imagine if you are the mass media, which team you will tend to cover more.
Hopefully this generation of Knicks can draw more fans to join the train with their performance. :nod:

Re: Gilbert Arenas - It's NY's fault Brunson isn't a star

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:21 am
by Galvationknicks
Ppl in NYC still Suffering from Knicks PTSD. It even gets to me sometimes in these fake hustle games where I might turn the TV off like in the sucky years. It just happens alot less nowadays

Re: Gilbert Arenas - It's NY's fault Brunson isn't a star

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:21 am
by islanders11040
the dude just said Jokic is the worst MVP in the last 40 years. nothing he says is relevant

Re: Gilbert Arenas - It's NY's fault Brunson isn't a star

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:41 pm
by dakomish23
He is a star. And there's a good chance he's about to be all NBA first team. And my guess is he'll get in the top 5 for MVP. Really should be top 3 IMO.

Re: Gilbert Arenas - It's NY's fault Brunson isn't a star

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 6:35 am
by stuporman
People actually listen to anything this guy says? That's kinda...stupid.

Re: Gilbert Arenas - It's NY's fault Brunson isn't a star

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 7:18 am
by knicksNOTslick
matchman wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:
Meat wrote:Ok and? Being wrong one take doesn’t make you wrong on all? When you consider the media impact and overall population of nyc, Jb shoulda Been an all Star starter


The issue is Arenas is in the media and part of the problem. Dude was shiting on the Knicks and dismissing them as much as anyone. Caps analogy was perfect.

The NBA is now world wide. Nyc is maybe 0.1% of the population? We really dont have the sway we once did in terms of national media attention or voting. Most of the media coverage is negative and most casuals see the Knicks as the same ol Knicks because of that. Blaming nyc is a copout when he should be apologizing and blaming himself for underrating Brunson and the knicks.

Arenas is a straight up clown though and no idea why people even listen to him.... That's part of the problem. Too many people listen to fools like that


If we talk in global scale, Knicks is not as big as we think. Yes we are the Mecca of basketball, but I was surprised by the fact that Knicks only ranked 16th out of 30 teams among Instagram followers.

GSW: 32.6M
LAL: 24.5M
CLE: 16.7M
CHI: 10.2M
BOS: 7.9M
MIA: 6.7M
HOU: 6.3M
OKC: 5.9M
MIL: 5.5M
LAC: 5.3M
SAS: 5.2M
BKN: 4.9M
PHI: 4.3M
DAL: 4.1M
TOR: 4.1M

NYK: 4M

You may imagine if you are the mass media, which team you will tend to cover more.
Hopefully this generation of Knicks can draw more fans to join the train with their performance. :nod:

Instagram tells a different story though. A lot of old folks don't have Instagram and the Knicks have been bad for most of the past 2 decades so it's understandable that they havent been a big draw for that platform's target audience. It would be interesting to see how the Knicks grow in the next few years.

Re: Gilbert Arenas - It's NY's fault Brunson isn't a star

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 12:25 pm
by BKlutch
Arenas hasn't always had the best judgment. He pleaded guilty to a gun felony after brining 4 unloaded guns into his team's locker room. He received an suspension based on the felony.

Now this guy's a rock star commentator? He's committing a felony against the Knicks and Brunson.

Re: Gilbert Arenas - It's NY's fault Brunson isn't a star

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 1:05 pm
by Governor Dudley
Ursusamericanus wrote:Of course he is a star and is recognized as such. His peers see it, other teams' fans see it, hell even casuals see it now. The media will catch up, they are the slowest learners (outside of Perk and some others).
Was watching JJ Reddicks podcast and someone made the point that it usually takes the media/casual fans a year and a half to catch up when it comes to recognising ascendant players .

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