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OT: Milwaukee: Everyone Available except Yi and Bogut

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Post#21 » by DDV » Fri Jan 4, 2008 11:50 pm

NoLayupRule wrote:Collins doesnt suck. weve seen him play at a very high level for extended time.

what sucks is his coach and his confidence

you should be able to tell the difference


collins played at a high level at the end of the year when teams were tanking or resting there good layers


ive seen hundreds of scrubs over the years put up decent numbers in april

collins is a backup at best
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Post#22 » by king_k4life » Fri Jan 4, 2008 11:52 pm

Bobby Simmons and Gadzuric for Curry!!!
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Post#23 » by Clincher » Fri Jan 4, 2008 11:53 pm

Mardy isnt that bad, he can be a useful backup PG just he looks really lost out there and lacks any confidence in what he does.
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Post#24 » by Clincher » Fri Jan 4, 2008 11:54 pm

king_k4life wrote:Bobby Simmons and Gadzuric for Curry!!!

2 bad deals for Curry? I fing hate Curry but you cant deal 2 1st rounders and a big expiring contract for Gadz and Bobby Freakin Simmons. :lol:
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Post#25 » by KOA » Sat Jan 5, 2008 12:05 am

Crawford (or Malik Rose), Jones, and Chandler for Redd.

The Bucks will be looking to get expirings plus young players and/or picks. However, they can't expect too much value considering the contract status of many of their players.
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Post#26 » by ctorres » Sat Jan 5, 2008 12:09 am

I think the Bucks trading Michael Redd to the Jazz for Andrei Kirilenko is a possibility.
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Re: OT: Milwaukee: Everyone Available except Yi and Bogut 

Post#27 » by GuyverADL » Sat Jan 5, 2008 12:26 am

StutterStep wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



GAWD you know nothing about basketball!!! :banghead: :banghead:


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Curry is not progressing here. He doesn't care to play D and isn't in shape. James is done.

Gadzuric is at least serviceable compared to what we have here. Hell Lee, Randolph, and Curry make Gadzuric look like Ben Wallace on defense.

I'm surprised people are sleeping on Villanueva like he's a scrub or something. This dude is a 6' 11" talented athletic big and can score. He doesnt have an attitude problem either. He can do something alot of our players have a problem doing and thats SHOOT and PASS.

Thomas needs to really break up the Chicago connection. Milwaukee isnt going to give Villanueva away. Curry can give Milwaukee 20+ points off the bench nightly. I look at Villanueva as Randolph lite but he actually passes the ball and can jump.

Curry doesnt care to be here anymore and his effort says it all.

A front court of Lee and Villaueva isnt any worse than Curry and Randolph.
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Post#28 » by Immortal King » Sat Jan 5, 2008 1:16 am

The player I really want from Milwaukee is Villenueva. Kid's a straight up baller and above all is NEW YORKA BABY11111
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Post#29 » by drj » Sat Jan 5, 2008 1:42 am

cmaff051 wrote:Instead of trying to take players off the Bucks hands, we should take some notes from them about what they are going to do with an underachieving team..


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We have a winner!

But I bet Isiah will look into Michael Redd. Redd's a perfect Knick: overpaid, one-dimensional, scorer...
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Post#30 » by krustytheclown » Sat Jan 5, 2008 2:24 am

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Redd would be nice but it would take youngsters or picks to get him unless Milwaukee would do something crazy like this:

Redd, Gadz (swap of this year's first rounder)

for

Curry, Crawford, Balkman, (swap of this year's first rounder)


man if we could pull that off...
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Post#31 » by midtown » Sat Jan 5, 2008 4:10 am

REDD !!

Nate, Crawford, Balkman for Michael Redd
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Post#32 » by moocow007 » Sat Jan 5, 2008 4:26 am

Gadzuric is an athletic-ish, hustle guy that really doesn't have a good feel for the game and is prone to some rather knuckleheaded plays a la Malik Rose on the offensive end (you guys ever wonder why the "Great Gadzo" doesn't get as much playing time as some of you seem to say he deserves?).

He's also a proud owner of a Jerome James sized contract (4 years $26 million) with the exception that James contract is one year shorter. Statistically speaking he's barely squeaking by our very own Jerome James (5PPG/5RPG/.6BPG in 17MPG to 4.3PPG/3.1RPG/1BPG in 13MPG).

The Knicks would be absolutely insane to swap Curry for this guy. And if we are complaining about poor defense and selfish out of control offense Charlie Villanueva is not among the guys that you'd be wanting.

Come on guys!!! Stop it with the "grass is always greener and the other teams players are always better" craziness.
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Post#33 » by fimslim3 » Sat Jan 5, 2008 4:33 am

NoLayupRule wrote:Collins doesnt suck. weve seen him play at a very high level for extended time.

what sucks is his coach and his confidence

you should be able to tell the difference


You couldn't tell the difference last season.
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Post#34 » by Knox » Sat Jan 5, 2008 4:39 am

sleeping on Villanueva like he's a scrub or something. This dude is a 6' 11" talented athletic big and can score. He doesnt have an attitude problem either. He can do something alot of our players have a problem doing and thats SHOOT and PASS


Sounds kind of like Tim Thomas all over again
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Re: OT: Milwaukee: Everyone Available except Yi and Bogut 

Post#35 » by moocow007 » Sat Jan 5, 2008 4:44 am

optimusadl wrote:
Gadzuric is at least serviceable compared to what we have here. Hell Lee, Randolph, and Curry make Gadzuric look like Ben Wallace on defense.


If Gadzuric is at least serviceable wouldn't you think that the Bucks, who have always had problems with enough viable big bodies up front would have played him more?

I'm surprised people are sleeping on Villanueva like he's a scrub or something. This dude is a 6' 11" talented athletic big and can score. He doesnt have an attitude problem either. He can do something alot of our players have a problem doing and thats SHOOT and PASS.


Villaneuva is currently shooting 43% from the field and 30% from 3PT range to go with half an assist per game.

Thomas needs to really break up the Chicago connection. Milwaukee isnt going to give Villanueva away. Curry can give Milwaukee 20+ points off the bench nightly. I look at Villanueva as Randolph lite but he actually passes the ball and can jump.


Randlolph is averaging almost 2 APG to Villanueva's 0.5 APG and Randolph is HARDLY a good PASSER.

Curry doesnt care to be here anymore and his effort says it all.

A front court of Lee and Villaueva isnt any worse than Curry and Randolph.


A front court of Lee and Villaneuva will make it even easier for teams to drive the lane and for their big men to pummel the Knicks in the paint.

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