PG: let's try that again

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Hartenstein has had a bad series so far

He wasn’t any good vs Philly either

He was better. He seems to be playing for the offseason now. Low intensity

He's playing too many minutes, 36, 39, 39 yesterday was the first time he didn't play 30 against them.

[sol537]

Hartenstein has had a bad series so far

Soft is the word that comes to mind.

Hoping he wakes up for game 5.

[Capn'O]

Literally all of our players play better next to OG. It's a massive loss.

Somebody posted in the GB yesterday that

iHart
OG
Hart
Donte
Brunson

Has one of the best +/- in the playoffs and that

iHart
Precious
Hart
Donte
Brunson

Has one of the worst.

It is what it is. We're a contender with OG and a play-in level team without him.

[KnicksGod]

Literally all of our players play better next to OG. It's a massive loss.

Somebody posted in the GB yesterday that

iHart
OG
Hart
Donte
Brunson

Has one of the best +/- in the playoffs and that

iHart
Precious
Hart
Donte
Brunson

Has one of the worst.

It is what it is. We're a contender with OG and a play-in level team without him.

But that may be pretty skewed by yesterday no? Still it's obvious that OG is that helpful.

[Besart19]

if we're being honest, even if the knicks manage to gut it out and win 2 more games (which i think is possible), they're gonna get destroyed in the ecf because they'll have nothing left for the celtics.

Celtics dont play fast... Im more concerned about these scrubs that run like crazies and have the refs behind... Brown cant shoot and Tatum cant do **** if OG is healthy... Achiuwa on KP... just dont play iHart... he is low key Amare in terms of awareness in defense when we play top level teams that also move a lot without the ball

Brunson
McBride / Donte (if he shoots well and is focused on D)
Hart
Anunoby
Achiuwa

[KnicksGod]

Burks is -15 so far

He'd have to score like 30ppg to be helpful given the fact that we will always give them good looks with Alec on the floor

Great idea to play him -- I'm sure he's ramping up to at least 28ppg any day now

[Besart19]

Our best chance was game 3... if we won, we could had rested JB and finish them off in game 5... two more games of rest with Cavs going 7 game series vs Cs

[Besart19]

Hartenstein has had a bad series so far

He wasn’t any good vs Philly either

If we can sign and trade him, I would be thrilled...

He is a liability on defense and cant post up on offense nor run a basic PnR... just some passing off the high post and pick and pop with his floater inside the paint

At least Mitch is great on D, very good on PnR running to the basket, rebs and putbacks...

Also OG being injury prone doesnt help... his knees look shot most of the time and he cant post up without going like Zach Randolph to get a block 3 times out of 4... we miss a lot an inside out game that Randle at least provided for us though not with great efficiency a lot of times

[Capn'O]

Literally all of our players play better next to OG. It's a massive loss.

Somebody posted in the GB yesterday that

iHart
OG
Hart
Donte
Brunson

Has one of the best +/- in the playoffs and that

iHart
Precious
Hart
Donte
Brunson

Has one of the worst.

It is what it is. We're a contender with OG and a play-in level team without him.

But that may be pretty skewed by yesterday no? Still it's obvious that OG is that helpful.

Probably, though I know his +/- hasn't been great in other games. OG's defense and ability to pull the opposing PF out of the paint is just invaluable. It's the glue that makes the engine work.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Literally all of our players play better next to OG. It's a massive loss.

Somebody posted in the GB yesterday that

iHart
OG
Hart
Donte
Brunson

Has one of the best +/- in the playoffs and that

iHart
Precious
Hart
Donte
Brunson

Has one of the worst.

It is what it is. We're a contender with OG and a play-in level team without him.

But that may be pretty skewed by yesterday no? Still it's obvious that OG is that helpful.

Probably, though I know his +/- hasn't been great in other games. OG's defense and ability to pull the opposing PF out of the paint is just invaluable. It's the glue that makes the engine work.

Losing OG is huge. The basketball gods teased us in January then tortured us the rest of the season and into the playoffs.

[KnicksGod]

Hartenstein has had a bad series so far

He wasn’t any good vs Philly either

If we can sign and trade him, I would be thrilled...

He is a liability on defense and cant post up on offense nor run a basic PnR... just some passing off the high post and pick and pop with his floater inside the paint

At least Mitch is great on D, very good on PnR running to the basket, rebs and putbacks...

Also OG being injury prone doesnt help... his knees look shot most of the time and he cant post up without going like Zach Randolph to get a block 3 times out of 4... we miss a lot an inside out game that Randle at least provided for us though not with great efficiency a lot of times

Mitch is a major weapon in PNR? I'll have to say no

[robillionaire]

Literally all of our players play better next to OG. It's a massive loss.

Somebody posted in the GB yesterday that

iHart
OG
Hart
Donte
Brunson

Has one of the best +/- in the playoffs and that

iHart
Precious
Hart
Donte
Brunson

Has one of the worst.

It is what it is. We're a contender with OG and a play-in level team without him.

The team record is solid evidence of this

However it doesn’t mean all hope to win the series is lost, Indiana was almost a play in team themselves and we could have 2/3 games at home, we could still pull out a win.

But the deck is stacked against us. We have zero margin for error now. Everyone has to have a good game. Every 50/50 ball has to fall our way. Brunson has to play at a superstar level. Role players have to make every open shot. The refs have to call it down the middle or maybe favor us instead of them. The pacers are going to have to help us a little by missing open looks. It’s going to take most or all of that.

[robillionaire]

But that may be pretty skewed by yesterday no? Still it's obvious that OG is that helpful.

Probably, though I know his +/- hasn't been great in other games. OG's defense and ability to pull the opposing PF out of the paint is just invaluable. It's the glue that makes the engine work.

Losing OG is huge. The basketball gods teased us in January then tortured us the rest of the season and into the playoffs.

At least they let us beat Philly

[KnicksGod]

Literally all of our players play better next to OG. It's a massive loss.

Somebody posted in the GB yesterday that

iHart
OG
Hart
Donte
Brunson

Has one of the best +/- in the playoffs and that

iHart
Precious
Hart
Donte
Brunson

Has one of the worst.

It is what it is. We're a contender with OG and a play-in level team without him.

The team record is solid evidence of this

However it doesn’t mean all hope to win the series is lost, Indiana was almost a play in team themselves and we could have 2/3 games at home, we could still pull out a win.

But the deck is stacked against us. We have zero margin for error now. Everyone has to have a good game. Every 50/50 ball has to fall our way. Brunson has to play at a superstar level. Role players have to make every open shot. The refs have to call it down the middle or maybe favor us instead of them. The pacers are going to have to help us a little by missing open looks. It’s going to take most or all of that.

Every game pretty much turns on this. Indiana may have broken out. Let's see how they look tomorrow. If they get a substantial lead, it probably means we're done.

[H_20]

Literally all of our players play better next to OG. It's a massive loss.

Somebody posted in the GB yesterday that

iHart
OG
Hart
Donte
Brunson

Has one of the best +/- in the playoffs and that

iHart
Precious
Hart
Donte
Brunson

Has one of the worst.

It is what it is. We're a contender with OG and a play-in level team without him.

The team record is solid evidence of this

However it doesn’t mean all hope to win the series is lost, Indiana was almost a play in team themselves and we could have 2/3 games at home, we could still pull out a win.

But the deck is stacked against us. We have zero margin for error now. Everyone has to have a good game. Every 50/50 ball has to fall our way. Brunson has to play at a superstar level. Role players have to make every open shot. The refs have to call it down the middle or maybe favor us instead of them. The pacers are going to have to help us a little by missing open looks. It’s going to take most or all of that.

Every game pretty much turns on this. Indiana may have broken out. Let's see how they look tomorrow. If they get a substantial lead, it probably means we're done.

knicks cant afford to trail anymore, its catching up to them.

[KnicksGod]

Knicks fans felt we were in good shape in this series and we focus on the details

We also have had a lot of injuries

So yeah, of course we're going to be mad and upset lol

On the details, it still makes no sense at all that Thibs didn't demand Donte to get shots after his streak in G3 ... other teams miss this stuff, yeah Knicks fans are different, but you can't tell me that's not stupid because it is

[sol537]

Knicks fans felt we were in good shape in this series and we focus on the details

We also have had a lot of injuries

So yeah, of course we're going to be mad and upset lol

On the details, it still makes no sense at all that Thibs didn't demand Donte to get shots after his streak in G3 ... other teams miss this stuff, yeah Knicks fans are different, but you can't tell me that's not stupid because it is

Yes, hindsight… hobbled Brunson meant we should have run more offense out of Hartenstein at the top of the key so others like DDV touch the ball more… prob would have won with that simple switch but Brunson hero ball has carried us this playoffs so I get it…

[Reign23]

guys are just dead. who would have thought that playing everyone 40+ minutes has some negative longterm effect.

[Stannis]

These playoffs feel so... orchestrated.

Game 3 would have been won if the NBA wasn't so "muh smol market teams".

[FrozenEnvelope]

guys are just dead. who would have thought that playing everyone 40+ minutes has some negative longterm effect.

Who is everyone?

Only Brunson, Hart and OG have averaged over 40 mpg so far in the playoffs and one can argue it's because we are so short handed that we had no other choice.

Boston (Tatum 38), Cleveland (Spida 38.2), Denver (Jokic 39.9, Murray 38.3, Porter 38.0, Gordon 37.9), Minnesota (Antman 40.0), OKC (SGA 38.9, Jalen Williams 37.1), Dallas (Luka 41.9, Kyrie 39.9) are all playing a lot of minutes so it's not a Thibs and NYK thing!