Shams: Knicks preparing to offer Thibs an extension

[nedleeds]

Thibs with an extension, freed from all financial consequences, will play Brunson, OG, and iHart 48 mpg for 82 games, until their hamstrings explode and their careers are shortened.

boozer… old.. and washed

He was 29 when he joined Chicago and Thibs murdered him.

Wanna guess how old Randle is? Is he old?

[DaGawd]

boozer… old.. and washed

He was 29 when he joined Chicago and Thibs murdered him.

Wanna guess how old Randle is? Is he old?

boozers played some of his career low in mpg in chicago lol….

[cldbld]

Thibs with an extension, freed from all financial consequences, will play Brunson, OG, and iHart 48 mpg for 82 games, until their hamstrings explode and their careers are shortened.

boozer… old.. and washed

Not only that, boozer cared more about his spray painted dome than anything else.

[nedleeds]

noah was a limited center skill wise whose only option to really be effective was to play with 120% intensity each and every time he stepped on the floor, deng just got old… any thing else??

Great analysis. Thibs played Deng 40 minutes at age 25 like he's doing to our guys, so yes old came quick for him. I'm sure it'll work out. Yes, Noah plays hard it's almost like you have a "coach" who knows his players tendencies' and makes sure they are "subbed" out when they're straining. We could even call this person a "head coach". And in games he could "make decisions".

Thibs **** sucks in game. Sucks out of time outs. Sucks at end of games. Doesn't run any offense other than give a guy the ball and move away.

likewise.. great analysis. this terrible 2x coach of the year has us on the verge of an eastern conference finals.. i’m gonna go with what my eyes tell me.. excellent coach

Lollllll Coach of the Year. I didn't think anybody would go there. Bravo. How'd that work out vs. Atlanta? In real games with fans? In a season when we had the best covid luck?

Fake ass regular season hero, just like Chicago and Minnesota. A trash East and the Bucks literally dying, and Brunson playing out of his mind with no coaching have us on the verge of the conference finals. A conference where 50 wins got you the 2 seed, versus the 5th seed in the West. But hey don't let facts stop you, they certainly don't stop the orc lord Thibs.

[rajajackal]

for all the minutes doom and gloomers here. please consider that our front office is working *with* thibs and is already demonstrably superior to the d rose bulls front office. our team was built to be deep, which is why we're still competing with our bench starting (besides brunson, arguably divo). we will continue to improve our roster. our core depth (hart, divo, mcbride) is locked in...this team will be fine long term. our guys would not be playing as many minutes as they did in the 2nd half of this season if it weren't for 3 starters being injured. 2 of them are historically injured for part of the year under any coach. the other guy was laid out by player contact. in the playoffs, as it has been pointed out before, stars log 40+ minutes league wide

besides gregg popovich or erik spoelstra who the hell are you replacing this man with? after all he's done for you...then again this is the board that turned on mitchell robinson bc his backup picked up the slack like he 'posed to...

[robillionaire]

People who want Thibs fired and gone never really give us the name of their preferred replacement. Like who do they want to take over that will be better? I know some say Johnny Bryant but what says he can even be a HC? Cause Spida endorsed him? Didn't LeBum and some others endorsed Fizdale too?

There’s a reason for that and it’s because many of these individuals all have something in common, and that is they are not serious about wanting to watch winning basketball. They either want to blow up and tank and don’t like him because he’s not a tank coach, or have been harassing him on behalf of rookie contract player x y or z getting more minutes or upset they got traded. Or both. Aka, focusing on a rebuild that we are clearly not in instead of recognizing this is a win now team and focusing on winning basketball

Now that’s not to say some of the criticisms of his methodology are not valid but I’m just saying I consider the ulterior motive when reading them

Hopefully with the 2 seed, 50 wins, and a potential trip to the ECF(not a sure thing yet by any means) it will shake people from the mindset and we can appreciate this coach for the miraculous job he has done with the franchise and if he ever is replaced it better be for a damn good established win now coach not someone with a career losing record like Kenny Atkinson or some Fizdale type rebuild clown like people seem to love so much

The oft repeated “he is only a regular season coach and can’t win in the playoffs” trope is looking pretty bogus right about now. Seeing as how we are currently witnessing more playoff winning than we have ever seen since the y2k virus was a thing. He’s popping a squat on nick nurse and Rick Carlisle now

Fans are more excited with Carlisle turning Obi into a slightly better bench player than giving credit to Thibs for Brunson, Randle, Donte, Josh Hart, Ihart, Precious, Burks all performing far better than when we got them and leading them to the 2 seed.

Don’t forget McBride who is starting for us right now and however he will be used going forward looks like a decent rotation player. Likely because he actually bought in to the system and the identity that this team is trying to build, plays the game the right way and doesn’t do dunk contest dunks on fast breaks and didn’t try to fight the coach. Don’t get me wrong the dunk contest dunks are fun to watch on the highlight reels but you don’t do that stuff in a real competition, even when losing the game, and he still does it even now in the playoffs, that was enough to show me the mentality was off with that guy especially after he missed a couple of them clowning around.

[nedleeds]

for all the minutes doom and gloomers here. please consider that our front office is working *with* thibs and is already demonstrably superior to the d rose bulls front office. our team was built to be deep, which is why we're still competing with our bench starting (besides brunson, arguably divo). we will continue to improve our roster. our core depth (hart, divo, mcbride) is locked in...this team will be fine long term. our guys would not be playing as many minutes as they did in the 2nd half of this season if it weren't for 3 starters being injured. 2 of them are historically injured for part of the year under any coach. the other guy was laid out by player contact. in the playoffs, as it has been pointed out before, stars log 40+ minutes league wide

besides gregg popovich or erik spoelstra who the hell are you replacing this man with? after all he's done for you...then again this is the board that turned on mitchell robinson bc his backup picked up the slack like he 'posed to...

I don't have a replacement in mind. But a coach who coaches in the actual games would be great. If it weren't for 3 starters being injured ... Randle has been leading the league in minutes and finally just broke, like the graveyard of players Thibs leaves in his wake. Then it trickles down, just like the Bulls, more guys play more minutes and it snowballs. Brunson is hurt, iHart is hurt, Hart is probably hurt but not saying anything because he's a dog.

We can't improve the roster depth, at least not with our cap and the assumption that CAA clients OG and iHart are getting paid. We'll get 2 late 1st round picks, maybe one of those picks can play some minutes. If we're over the expected $141 we could operate over the cap and use the exceptions maybe.

[Gravy]

for all the minutes doom and gloomers here. please consider that our front office is working *with* thibs and is already demonstrably superior to the d rose bulls front office. our team was built to be deep, which is why we're still competing with our bench starting (besides brunson, arguably divo). we will continue to improve our roster. our core depth (hart, divo, mcbride) is locked in...this team will be fine long term. our guys would not be playing as many minutes as they did in the 2nd half of this season if it weren't for 3 starters being injured. 2 of them are historically injured for part of the year under any coach. the other guy was laid out by player contact. in the playoffs, as it has been pointed out before, stars log 40+ minutes league wide

besides gregg popovich or erik spoelstra who the hell are you replacing this man with? after all he's done for you...then again this is the board that turned on mitchell robinson bc his backup picked up the slack like he 'posed to...

I don't have a replacement in mind. But a coach who coaches in the actual games would be great. If it weren't for 3 starters being injured ... Randle has been leading the league in minutes and finally just broke, like the graveyard of players Thibs leaves in his wake. Then it trickles down, just like the Bulls, more guys play more minutes and it snowballs. Brunson is hurt, iHart is hurt, Hart is probably hurt but not saying anything because he's a dog.

We can't improve the roster depth, at least not with our cap and the assumption that CAA clients OG and iHart are getting paid. We'll get 2 late 1st round picks, maybe one of those picks can play some minutes. If we're over the expected $141 we could operate over the cap and use the exceptions maybe.

If Thibs was responsible for all those injuries on the Bulls why would the players he got injured follow him to different teams on other franchises and always praise him in interviews? That does not make sense. The fans seem to know more about the injuries than the players who got injured do

[nedleeds]

for all the minutes doom and gloomers here. please consider that our front office is working *with* thibs and is already demonstrably superior to the d rose bulls front office. our team was built to be deep, which is why we're still competing with our bench starting (besides brunson, arguably divo). we will continue to improve our roster. our core depth (hart, divo, mcbride) is locked in...this team will be fine long term. our guys would not be playing as many minutes as they did in the 2nd half of this season if it weren't for 3 starters being injured. 2 of them are historically injured for part of the year under any coach. the other guy was laid out by player contact. in the playoffs, as it has been pointed out before, stars log 40+ minutes league wide

besides gregg popovich or erik spoelstra who the hell are you replacing this man with? after all he's done for you...then again this is the board that turned on mitchell robinson bc his backup picked up the slack like he 'posed to...

I don't have a replacement in mind. But a coach who coaches in the actual games would be great. If it weren't for 3 starters being injured ... Randle has been leading the league in minutes and finally just broke, like the graveyard of players Thibs leaves in his wake. Then it trickles down, just like the Bulls, more guys play more minutes and it snowballs. Brunson is hurt, iHart is hurt, Hart is probably hurt but not saying anything because he's a dog.

We can't improve the roster depth, at least not with our cap and the assumption that CAA clients OG and iHart are getting paid. We'll get 2 late 1st round picks, maybe one of those picks can play some minutes. If we're over the expected $141 we could operate over the cap and use the exceptions maybe.

If Thibs was responsible for all those injuries on the Bulls why would the players he got injured follow him to different teams on other franchises and always praise him in interviews? That does not make sense. The fans seem to know more about the injuries than the players who got injured do

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

Who followed him? Butler was traded. Noah and Deng never played meaningful minutes again and he crippled them from overuse. Deng sat on the bench in Minnesota for a minute then died.

Rose followed him but nobody wanted Rose. Utah waived him. Thibs did him a solid and he had a couple more productive years until he finally disintegrated here.

The minutes management is legendarily terrible but that's not even his worst trait. He's just a bad in game coach. There's nothing he does in the game that's even average. Everything is just 1983 by the book. He can't manage OoTO situations at all, we get nothing. His end of game, foul management and clock management is laughable. His rotation management is laughable, watch a player get foul 2. He can't find a way to get Hart 4 minutes of rest? Totally awful.

Nobody here is going to defend his oFfEnSe ... he has none. But he's had some good iso and or pick and roll operators.

[Iron Mantis]

Nedleeds spitting flames

[robillionaire]

Nedleeds wants to trade Brunson for draft picks. That should be in large bold font over the top of anything he says for the sake of context

[FrozenEnvelope]

Nedleeds spitting flames

eVeRy iNjUrY iS tHiBs FaULt

[Gravy]

I don't have a replacement in mind. But a coach who coaches in the actual games would be great. If it weren't for 3 starters being injured ... Randle has been leading the league in minutes and finally just broke, like the graveyard of players Thibs leaves in his wake. Then it trickles down, just like the Bulls, more guys play more minutes and it snowballs. Brunson is hurt, iHart is hurt, Hart is probably hurt but not saying anything because he's a dog.

We can't improve the roster depth, at least not with our cap and the assumption that CAA clients OG and iHart are getting paid. We'll get 2 late 1st round picks, maybe one of those picks can play some minutes. If we're over the expected $141 we could operate over the cap and use the exceptions maybe.

If Thibs was responsible for all those injuries on the Bulls why would the players he got injured follow him to different teams on other franchises and always praise him in interviews? That does not make sense. The fans seem to know more about the injuries than the players who got injured do

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

Who followed him? Butler was traded. Noah and Deng never played meaningful minutes again and he crippled them from overuse. Deng sat on the bench in Minnesota for a minute then died.

Rose followed him but nobody wanted Rose. Utah waived him. Thibs did him a solid and he had a couple more productive years until he finally disintegrated here.

The minutes management is legendarily terrible but that's not even his worst trait. He's just a bad in game coach. There's nothing he does in the game that's even average. Everything is just 1983 by the book. He can't manage OoTO situations at all, we get nothing. His end of game, foul management and clock management is laughable. His rotation management is laughable, watch a player get foul 2. He can't find a way to get Hart 4 minutes of rest? Totally awful.

Nobody here is going to defend his oFfEnSe ... he has none. But he's had some good iso and or pick and roll operators.

The top players on those Bulls teams praise him and the Knicks players now love him. If you prefer believe Thibs is holding grown men psychologically hostage and not the fans having no idea what they are talking about but pretending to be medical experts, that is Dunning–Kruger.

The Knicks have the third best offensive rating in the playoffs with a half a roster and the 7th best for the season despite having a full team for only a month. You really have no other coaching candidate you can name shouldn't it be easy?

[rajajackal]

for all the minutes doom and gloomers here. please consider that our front office is working *with* thibs and is already demonstrably superior to the d rose bulls front office. our team was built to be deep, which is why we're still competing with our bench starting (besides brunson, arguably divo). we will continue to improve our roster. our core depth (hart, divo, mcbride) is locked in...this team will be fine long term. our guys would not be playing as many minutes as they did in the 2nd half of this season if it weren't for 3 starters being injured. 2 of them are historically injured for part of the year under any coach. the other guy was laid out by player contact. in the playoffs, as it has been pointed out before, stars log 40+ minutes league wide

besides gregg popovich or erik spoelstra who the hell are you replacing this man with? after all he's done for you...then again this is the board that turned on mitchell robinson bc his backup picked up the slack like he 'posed to...

I don't have a replacement in mind. But a coach who coaches in the actual games would be great. If it weren't for 3 starters being injured ... Randle has been leading the league in minutes and finally just broke, like the graveyard of players Thibs leaves in his wake. Then it trickles down, just like the Bulls, more guys play more minutes and it snowballs. Brunson is hurt, iHart is hurt, Hart is probably hurt but not saying anything because he's a dog.

We can't improve the roster depth, at least not with our cap and the assumption that CAA clients OG and iHart are getting paid. We'll get 2 late 1st round picks, maybe one of those picks can play some minutes. If we're over the expected $141 we could operate over the cap and use the exceptions maybe.

our coach has created a monster the nba can't figure out. there is no reason our current roster should be winning 2nd round playoff games. i must reiterate, randle didn't break down. each time he's been injured in the last 2 years, it's been due to contact vs a miami heat player. mitch and og have missed time under other coaches. brunson has been ridden like a horse for 2 years straight and is still putting up 40pt games against playoff defenses. josh hart has been playing 48 and is still out-hustling opponents all over the court. it is better to have 10-11 rotation players and use at least 9 of them at full health in order to disperse usage, sure, but we don't currently have that luxury.

next year, assuming randle doesn't get maimed by a dirty floridian again, and starting with og from game 1, i don't see how we're not already deep. if you could knowingly run mitch/randle/og/divo or a trade target/brunson with a bench of hartenstein or precious/mcbride/divo or a veteran signing/hart...you are going to be putting teams away all year without 40+ minutes of effort from your elite injury-prone guys (og & mitch)

[Iron Mantis]

Nedleeds spitting flames

eVeRy iNjUrY iS tHiBs FaULt

It's interesting seeing the opposing viewpoints.

[FrozenEnvelope]

Nedleeds spitting flames

eVeRy iNjUrY iS tHiBs FaULt

It's interesting seeing the opposing viewpoints.

But the "Thibs is responsible for every injury" makes no sense and has already been proven idiotic and false by injuries happening to most teams and players playing different roles and minutes.

[Gravy]

Nedleeds spitting flames

eVeRy iNjUrY iS tHiBs FaULt

Realgm medical experts: "Dont listen to those Thibs paid doctors, here's what REALLY happened to his knee"

[nedleeds]

Sure lets ignore all evidence, including being down 3 starters with Brunson walking wounded and claim god did it. Let's ignore the other franchise where this exact scene played out. Talented 2nd round team eventually doomed by injury. It's different because bing bong Knicks. I'm sure repeated injuries to OG, Randle, Mitch and Brunson will age like wine. It's all going to get better with age and more minutes. And we have this luminary offensive genius who can yell ' clear out' really loud.

[koogiking]

Well deserved. We finally have stability in our coaching

[rajajackal]

Sure lets ignore all evidence, including being down 3 starters with Brunson walking wounded and claim god did it. Let's ignore the other franchise where this exact scene played out. Talented 2nd round team eventually doomed by injury. It's different because bing bong Knicks. I'm sure repeated injuries to OG, Randle, Mitch and Brunson will age like wine. It's all going to get better with age and more minutes. And we have this luminary offensive genius who can yell ' clear out' really loud.

nedleeds it's nothing but Love but you keep bringing up randle as if he hasn't been an iron man who suffered 2 very specifically contact-derivative injuries. i'm not saying thibs is an offensive wizard or that he isn't quite fixed in his ways. what i'm saying is that he is distinctly capable of getting his team to buy in and elevate their games 1-15. if that isn't made obvious by this playoff run, idk what to tell you. these guys are together, and that includes the coach. he has turned these guys into warriors who can out-grit deeper and more talented rosters. that is special. you say, ****, ok, i'll bust the purse out to give this guy a roster than can see it all the way through, not "we're almost there on talent alone, fire him and disrupt the entire culture he's built"