Page 5 of 12
Re: PG: Donte McBride Bury Nets Next to Jimmy Hoffa
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:20 pm
by nykballa2k4
KnixtapeH20 wrote:HighRyzer83 wrote:Mikal is not who we thought he was. Deuce isn't either, but for a good reason
Lets not hyperbolize... idk if I just made that up but anyway
Mikal is playing with the super scrubs of scrubs, he's a very good player and would put us over the top
But losing Deuce when he has so much upside isn't smart, no pun intended
The random the Nets were declining to take for him was basically franchise malpractice. If they could have had Scoot and Simons from the Blazers during the off-season that would have made them better this year and for the future.
Re: PG: Donte McBride Bury Nets Next to Jimmy Hoffa
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:21 pm
by Fat Kat
KnixtapeH20 wrote:this is so dope
Re: PG: Donte McBride Bury Nets Next to Jimmy Hoffa
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:37 pm
by Knicks Byke
KnixtapeH20 wrote:Deeeez Knicks wrote:?s=61&t=oWAQ5JzX5AK-44v89eypvw
well DAMN... she puuurtyyy
it moved.
Re: PG: Donte McBride Bury Nets Next to Jimmy Hoffa
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:40 pm
by KnicksGadfly
Deuce is gonna have a ton of value if he gets paid like this, and produces like this. Knicks are about to pay OG and they’re hunting for another max cat to pair with Brunson. They also have an aversion to picks, which is where cost controlled talent usually comes from. Deuce probably isn’t worth moving for Mikal.
Re: PG: Donte McBride Bury Nets Next to Jimmy Hoffa
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:44 pm
by KnicksGod
I trust the front office but I don’t think Mikal is that good.
Re: PG: Donte McBride Bury Nets Next to Jimmy Hoffa
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:46 pm
by Fat Kat
Re: PG: Donte McBride Bury Nets Next to Jimmy Hoffa
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:46 pm
by aggo
I would trade for Mikal, but the truth is that it really only makes sense if we give them back a Villanova guy to make room for minutes
Re: PG: Donte McBride Bury Nets Next to Jimmy Hoffa
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:49 pm
by MrDollarBills
drekwins wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:jvsimonetti0514 wrote:And if we can get healthy, Bojan and Burks are out of the rotation. No way either of them can get playoff minutes.
Depends on the team, like you could definitely get away with playing them against the Bucks because Doc doesn't really target mismatches and when Lillard is on the bench they don't have anyone that can take people off the dribble.
Let's face it, Bogs is not anything close to a Thibs player. He does not rebound the ball at all or add any physicality. He has zero defensive presence. This was always going to happen.
I feel bad even trying to hype him up. I can't defend his ineffective play. I'm kind of shocked he's been this poor tbh.
Re: PG: Donte McBride Bury Nets Next to Jimmy Hoffa
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:49 pm
by 8516knicks
Missed the game but amazed as it looks like we bascially played four guys under 6'4" and Ihart against them and won! Thibs must have been drugged?!
Re: PG: Donte McBride Bury Nets Next to Jimmy Hoffa
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:50 pm
by 8516knicks
aggo wrote:I would trade for Mikal, but the truth is that it really only makes sense if we give them back a Villanova guy to make room for minutes
Sounds like a role for Super Arch!
Re: PG: Donte McBride Bury Nets Next to Jimmy Hoffa
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:51 pm
by MrDollarBills
nykballa2k4 wrote:KnixtapeH20 wrote:HighRyzer83 wrote:Mikal is not who we thought he was. Deuce isn't either, but for a good reason
Lets not hyperbolize... idk if I just made that up but anyway
Mikal is playing with the super scrubs of scrubs, he's a very good player and would put us over the top
But losing Deuce when he has so much upside isn't smart, no pun intended
The random the Nets were declining to take for him was basically franchise malpractice. If they could have had Scoot and Simons from the Blazers during the off-season that would have made them better this year and for the future.
Houston offered Jalen Green and Brooklyn's picks back for Bridges.
They refused.
It speaks for itself.
Re: PG: Donte McBride Bury Nets Next to Jimmy Hoffa
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:53 pm
by aggo
when you look at our roster and particularly our offensive rating (low), the 2 biggest holes we have on the team even with a healthy randle, is a space 3 <--> space 4 that can play 20-36mpg. the second being a drive and kick pg (like DSJ).
I love Josh hart, but there are limits to a team when you have a guy playing 36mpg with a 50% TS. I know everything else he brings, but I really think the Denver game is the difference between a good team which is what we already have, and an elite team, which is what we need.
idk if mikal is that guy
and I'd be terrified of trading 4 frps to find out.
Re: PG: Donte McBride Bury Nets Next to Jimmy Hoffa
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:58 pm
by Hes_On_Fire
Might as well hire Jay Wright at that point.
Re: PG: Donte McBride Bury Nets Next to Jimmy Hoffa
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 10:07 pm
by aggo
aggo wrote:when you look at our roster and particularly our offensive rating (low), the 2 biggest holes we have on the team even with a healthy randle, is a space 3 <--> space 4 that can play 20-36mpg. the second being a drive and kick pg (like DSJ).
I love Josh hart, but there are limits to a team when you have a guy playing 36mpg with a 50% TS. I know everything else he brings, but I really think the Denver game is the difference between a good team which is what we already have, and an elite team, which is what we need.
idk if mikal is that guy
and I'd be terrified of trading 4 frps to find out.
one more thing--
this is why I am very insistent on getting iHart more touches to score. Because we need more production out of C position.
we can always "trade for a star" but getting iHart to being a 12ppg player at 60%+ TS is one of the biggest no brainer, obvious, 0 risk for chemistry, simplest 0 risk all reward decision we can make
Re: PG: Donte McBride Bury Nets Next to Jimmy Hoffa
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 10:08 pm
by Fat Kat
Re: PG: Donte McBride Bury Nets Next to Jimmy Hoffa
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 10:12 pm
by NY2k1
aggo wrote:when you look at our roster and particularly our offensive rating (low), the 2 biggest holes we have on the team even with a healthy randle, is a space 3 <--> space 4 that can play 20-36mpg. the second being a drive and kick pg (like DSJ).
I love Josh hart, but there are limits to a team when you have a guy playing 36mpg with a 50% TS. I know everything else he brings, but I really think the Denver game is the difference between a good team which is what we already have, and an elite team, which is what we need.
idk if mikal is that guy
and I'd be terrified of trading 4 frps to find out.
I mean, we blew out Denver back in late Jan, but I see what you mean.
Re: PG: Donte McBride Bury Nets Next to Jimmy Hoffa
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 10:12 pm
by 3toheadmelo
the good thing is that it looks like the nets aren't going to trade mikal and the knicks def won't meet their asking price either. if we were to trade deuce, i rather it be for a true star. mikal is good but not worth giving up deuce at the moment
Re: PG: Donte McBride Bury Nets Next to Jimmy Hoffa
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 10:20 pm
by RHODEY
KnicksGod wrote:I trust the front office but I don’t think Mikal is that good.
As a3rd option 2 way player who is 6'6" and long.. he's exactly what we need to play 5 on...he slots in perfectly at the 2 and would give us A Villlanova "4"...he'ds be the "Rasheed Wallace" move to put us over the top..
If all we have to give up is Deuce and Bogs and picks its a no brainier... An yeah I agree he doesn't look "that good" on the Nets...but with us , he'd be better than ever...likely an Allstar.
These other pieces like Towns and and Donovan Mitchell are not great fits IMO AND they would cost way more.
Re: PG: Donte McBride Bury Nets Next to Jimmy Hoffa
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 10:26 pm
by 8516knicks
RHODEY wrote:KnicksGod wrote:I trust the front office but I don’t think Mikal is that good.
As a3rd option 2 way player who is 6'6" and long.. he's exactly what we need to play 5 on...he slots in perfectly at the 2 and would give us A Villlanova "4"...he'ds be the "Rasheed Wallace" move to put us over the top..
If all we have to give up is Deuce and Bogs and picks its a no brainier... An yeah I agree he doesn't look "that good" on the Nets...but with us , he'd be better than ever...likely an Allstar.
These other pieces like Towns and and Donovan Mitchell are not great fits IMO AND they would cost way more.
Before any more moves I still want to see what the team we have looks like in the playoffs with everyone healthy. Then we'll know better how close or far we are and what we need that we haven't got.
Re: PG: Donte McBride Bury Nets Next to Jimmy Hoffa
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 10:27 pm
by 3toheadmelo
RHODEY wrote:KnicksGod wrote:I trust the front office but I don’t think Mikal is that good.
As a3rd option 2 way player who is 6'6" and long.. he's exactly what we need to play 5 on...he slots in perfectly at the 2 and would give us A Villlanova "4"...he'ds be the "Rasheed Wallace" move to put us over the top..
If all we have to give up is Deuce and Bogs and picks its a no brainier... An yeah I agree he doesn't look "that good" on the Nets...but with us , he'd be better than ever...likely an Allstar.
These other pieces like Towns and and Donovan Mitchell are not great fits IMO AND they would cost way more.
you'd have to give up way more than that. they turned down jalen green and their picks back, turned down anfernee simons and the 3rd pick (which turned out to be scoot). these are way better packages than just deuce, bojan and picks. at the very least they are going to ask for deuce, og, one of mitch/ihart and a bunch of picks