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Rich Rane wrote:Just read Arizona is looking at trades on 4th overall. If teams are really dead set going for Williams, Maye, Daniels, and McCarthy in whatever order for the first 4, I wonder if Chargers are making 5th available to trade down to us for MHJ.

HarthorneWingo wrote:

Rich Rane wrote:Just read Arizona is looking at trades on 4th overall. If teams are really dead set going for Williams, Maye, Daniels, and McCarthy in whatever order for the first 4, I wonder if Chargers are making 5th available to trade down to us for MHJ.

How are we sitting depth-wise on the roster overall? According to Remi, we could use some on the OL. So, I don't know whether consolidating assets to move up or trading back to acquire more assets is the way to go. I remember when Bill Parcells first came to the Jets as the Head Coach/GM, the first thing he did was trade back in the drafts to acquire more talent. And it worked. That Jets team was in much worse shape than this is right now, though.

Rich Rane wrote:

HarthorneWingo wrote:

Rich Rane wrote:Just read Arizona is looking at trades on 4th overall. If teams are really dead set going for Williams, Maye, Daniels, and McCarthy in whatever order for the first 4, I wonder if Chargers are making 5th available to trade down to us for MHJ.

How are we sitting depth-wise on the roster overall? According to Remi, we could use some on the OL. So, I don't know whether consolidating assets to move up or trading back to acquire more assets is the way to go. I remember when Bill Parcells first came to the Jets as the Head Coach/GM, the first thing he did was trade back in the drafts to acquire more talent. And it worked. That Jets team was in much worse shape than this is right now, though.

Jets also had to give New England a lot of picks just to get Parcells so it's not like he had a choice.

But yeah, Jets need depth on both lines, which is why I don't mind trading back for more picks either if Joe Alt isn't available. Still, we're in win now mode and if the Chargers are dangling MHJ to us? It would be difficult for me to turn down.

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Rich Rane wrote:

HarthorneWingo wrote:How are we sitting depth-wise on the roster overall? According to Remi, we could use some on the OL. So, I don't know whether consolidating assets to move up or trading back to acquire more assets is the way to go. I remember when Bill Parcells first came to the Jets as the Head Coach/GM, the first thing he did was trade back in the drafts to acquire more talent. And it worked. That Jets team was in much worse shape than this is right now, though.

Jets also had to give New England a lot of picks just to get Parcells so it's not like he had a choice.

But yeah, Jets need depth on both lines, which is why I don't mind trading back for more picks either if Joe Alt isn't available. Still, we're in win now mode and if the Chargers are dangling MHJ to us? It would be difficult for me to turn down.

I'm in the trade back to add more picks camp as well. I think they did a good job filling key needs via free agency and at this point, depth and more picks is the way to go, unless a player they really crave falls to #10.

I like what they've done. I'm not sure they're anything more than a one and done playoff team, but even that would be a nice change.

Rich Rane wrote:

HarthorneWingo wrote:

Rich Rane wrote:Just read Arizona is looking at trades on 4th overall. If teams are really dead set going for Williams, Maye, Daniels, and McCarthy in whatever order for the first 4, I wonder if Chargers are making 5th available to trade down to us for MHJ.

How are we sitting depth-wise on the roster overall? According to Remi, we could use some on the OL. So, I don't know whether consolidating assets to move up or trading back to acquire more assets is the way to go. I remember when Bill Parcells first came to the Jets as the Head Coach/GM, the first thing he did was trade back in the drafts to acquire more talent. And it worked. That Jets team was in much worse shape than this is right now, though.

Jets also had to give New England a lot of picks just to get Parcells so it's not like he had a choice.

But yeah, Jets need depth on both lines, which is why I don't mind trading back for more picks either if Joe Alt isn't available. Still, we're in win now mode and if the Chargers are dangling MHJ to us? It would be difficult for me to turn down.

HarthorneWingo wrote:

Rich Rane wrote:Just read Arizona is looking at trades on 4th overall. If teams are really dead set going for Williams, Maye, Daniels, and McCarthy in whatever order for the first 4, I wonder if Chargers are making 5th available to trade down to us for MHJ.

How are we sitting depth-wise on the roster overall? According to Remi, we could use some on the OL. So, I don't know whether consolidating assets to move up or trading back to acquire more assets is the way to go. I remember when Bill Parcells first came to the Jets as the Head Coach/GM, the first thing he did was trade back in the drafts to acquire more talent. And it worked. That Jets team was in much worse shape than this is right now, though.

moocow007 wrote:I honestly would go with another WR with the 10th pick if I were the Jets rather than an OL. Same opinion I had the 2 drafts ago when I said the Jets need to draft game changers and strongly pushed for Sauce Gardner over any OL. Also said they should use that 2nd pick for the best game breaking WR they can draft (they picked Garret Wilson). Both picks have turned out absolutely great.

As far as which WR? Obviously Harrison would be the preference but no chance of that (since I don't think the Jets have the ammunition to trade up). I'm a bigger fan of Nabers than Odunze but Nabers is less of a fit for the Jets than Odunze since they moved Wilson to the slot. Nabers is a more "raw" than Harrison or Odunze in terms of routes and fundamentals but IMO he's got the best game breaking skills of the 3. Can't really teach that. Routes and fundamentals you can teach (yes, doesn't mean that the player can be taught) but game breaking ability can't be taught (no matter how much you want to).

If Nabers is still on the board at 10 (I would say unlikely), it would be hard to pass on even though Odunze might be better fit positionally and the safer pick. If the Jets were going to go with Zach Wilson then yeah Odunze makes even more sense as he has better hands and is best at going after and grabbing bad passes lol. But with old man Rodgers still projected to be their starter I think Nabers would be less of a risk and could give the Jets a real scary receiving corps.

I would look for an OL in a later round.

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Rich Rane wrote:Just read Arizona is looking at trades on 4th overall. If teams are really dead set going for Williams, Maye, Daniels, and McCarthy in whatever order for the first 4, I wonder if Chargers are making 5th available to trade down to us for MHJ.

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moocow007 wrote:I honestly would go with another WR with the 10th pick if I were the Jets rather than an OL. Same opinion I had the 2 drafts ago when I said the Jets need to draft game changers and strongly pushed for Sauce Gardner over any OL. Also said they should use that 2nd pick for the best game breaking WR they can draft (they picked Garret Wilson). Both picks have turned out absolutely great.

As far as which WR? Obviously Harrison would be the preference but no chance of that (since I don't think the Jets have the ammunition to trade up). I'm a bigger fan of Nabers than Odunze but Nabers is less of a fit for the Jets than Odunze since they moved Wilson to the slot. Nabers is a more "raw" than Harrison or Odunze in terms of routes and fundamentals but IMO he's got the best game breaking skills of the 3. Can't really teach that. Routes and fundamentals you can teach (yes, doesn't mean that the player can be taught) but game breaking ability can't be taught (no matter how much you want to).

If Nabers is still on the board at 10 (I would say unlikely), it would be hard to pass on even though Odunze might be better fit positionally and the safer pick. If the Jets were going to go with Zach Wilson then yeah Odunze makes even more sense as he has better hands and is best at going after and grabbing bad passes lol. But with old man Rodgers still projected to be their starter I think Nabers would be less of a risk and could give the Jets a real scary receiving corps.

I would look for an OL in a later round.

I don't think there's any chance Nabers or MHJ falls to 10. Even Odunze feels like a long shot to make it. But any of those three is an instant pick-up for me.

The good thing about this draft is that it's pretty loaded at WR and OL, so I'd try to trade back if none of the premium WR's are around (or Alt). Then hopefully they can get into the second round to fill both needs.

moocow007 wrote:Yeah I agree. Without trading up I don't think they'll be available. I would still consider trading up though. Jet's aren't great at drafting when it's not obvious.