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Re: Around the NBA - Continued… again 

Post#1961 » by dakomish23 » Tue Mar 5, 2024 5:22 pm

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Buttah304 wrote:Mikal Last 10 Games:

61/155 FG (39.3%)
23/80 3PT (28.9%)


Inexplicably proclaiming that you're building around a non all star level talent player has consequences.

I like Mikal, he's a good dude. But he was put in a bad situation, and on a team with talent that he can play off of, those percentages would be much better. Less usage volume, more catch and shoot opportunities, no attempting to go ISO against players when he can't dribble well enough to get past them.

It's almost as if knowing your personnel should be a job qualification for being an NBA GM.


Fine, fine. We'll trade for him :roll: You twisted my arm
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Post#1963 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Mar 5, 2024 5:29 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:
Inexplicably proclaiming that you're building around a non all star level talent player has consequences.

I like Mikal, he's a good dude. But he was put in a bad situation, and on a team with talent that he can play off of, those percentages would be much better. Less usage volume, more catch and shoot opportunities, no attempting to go ISO against players when he can't dribble well enough to get past them.

It's almost as if knowing your personnel should be a job qualification for being an NBA GM.


Maybe it's my Knicks colored glasses but it feels like the Nets are going out of their way to scream to the world that they are building around Bridges because they know the Knicks would be hot after him.


This is no joke, but they’re seriously fighting for their franchise’s life right now. They were already having a tough enough time selling tickets when they were a playoff team. Now the Knicks are good and they’re bad and they have no picks.


They're done in NYC. There is no way they've achieved building a fanbase organically over the last 12 years.

Deron Williams years = players didn't give a sh*t, one 2nd round appearance.

Kenny Atkinson years = actual engaging basketball with fan friendly players, but not enough to actually win.

KD/Kyrie years = players didn't give a sh*t, one 2nd round appearance.

^i would wager that very few New Yorkers actually give a sh*t. The Liberty have way more organic support in the city.
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Post#1964 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Mar 5, 2024 5:32 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:
Buttah304 wrote:Mikal Last 10 Games:

61/155 FG (39.3%)
23/80 3PT (28.9%)


Inexplicably proclaiming that you're building around a non all star level talent player has consequences.

I like Mikal, he's a good dude. But he was put in a bad situation, and on a team with talent that he can play off of, those percentages would be much better. Less usage volume, more catch and shoot opportunities, no attempting to go ISO against players when he can't dribble well enough to get past them.

It's almost as if knowing your personnel should be a job qualification for being an NBA GM.


Fine, fine. We'll trade for him :roll: You twisted my arm


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He'd average an easy 16ppg here on good efficiency and his defense would probably revert back to how it was in Phoenix
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Post#1965 » by dakomish23 » Tue Mar 5, 2024 5:47 pm

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Inexplicably proclaiming that you're building around a non all star level talent player has consequences.

I like Mikal, he's a good dude. But he was put in a bad situation, and on a team with talent that he can play off of, those percentages would be much better. Less usage volume, more catch and shoot opportunities, no attempting to go ISO against players when he can't dribble well enough to get past them.

It's almost as if knowing your personnel should be a job qualification for being an NBA GM.


Fine, fine. We'll trade for him :roll: You twisted my arm


:lol:

He'd average an easy 16ppg here on good efficiency and his defense would probably revert back to how it was in Phoenix


That draft will forever be one of our low points. After the Melo deal, we were in prime position to let the kids rock, get a top pick, and got into 2019 with a ton of cap space.

And they threw that away for THJ of all ppl.

Fine. But then to pass on both Mikal & MPJ for Knox??? I know SGA but I'm not going to pretend like I wanted him. I wanted one of those two where we picked. Disaster.
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Post#1966 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Mar 5, 2024 5:54 pm

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Fine, fine. We'll trade for him :roll: You twisted my arm


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He'd average an easy 16ppg here on good efficiency and his defense would probably revert back to how it was in Phoenix


That draft will forever be one of our low points. After the Melo deal, we were in prime position to let the kids rock, get a top pick, and got into 2019 with a ton of cap space.

And they threw that away for THJ of all ppl.

Fine. But then to pass on both Mikal & MPJ for Knox??? I know SGA but I'm not going to pretend like I wanted him. I wanted one of those two where we picked. Disaster.


Our (my boys) group chat was talking about this yesterday, some girl on tiktok who is a Knicks fan posted a video breaking this down and someone shared it.

My boy Mike was like "all of that was before Leon Rose tho" and i agreed with him. Yesterday is gone. What matters now is turning those picks + Bojan's contract into something that puts this roster over the edge this summer. I think Rose can continue to make the right moves. I know folks are down on the Grimes trade right now, but I preach patience. This roster has a ton of talent and upside.
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Post#1967 » by spree2kawhi » Tue Mar 5, 2024 6:05 pm

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Inexplicably proclaiming that you're building around a non all star level talent player has consequences.

I like Mikal, he's a good dude. But he was put in a bad situation, and on a team with talent that he can play off of, those percentages would be much better. Less usage volume, more catch and shoot opportunities, no attempting to go ISO against players when he can't dribble well enough to get past them.

It's almost as if knowing your personnel should be a job qualification for being an NBA GM.

He’s certainly had a breakout since leaving Phoenix. I wouldn’t say he’s terribly outmatched and he’d also look much better if Brooklyn acquired some top level talent this summer. With that said, he’d still be the single most perfect acquisition for us.


He's a 3rd option on a mid tier team at best.

For comparison, on the Knicks, at full strength (imo a contender in the East), he'd be the 4th option offensively. Yet they are trying to sell him as a #1. It's honestly a shame and I hope he asks out.

I think you’re underestimating him and it doesn’t even matter, I’d basically pay any price to add him next to OG and Brunson.
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Post#1969 » by sol537 » Tue Mar 5, 2024 7:11 pm

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spree2kawhi wrote:He’s certainly had a breakout since leaving Phoenix. I wouldn’t say he’s terribly outmatched and he’d also look much better if Brooklyn acquired some top level talent this summer. With that said, he’d still be the single most perfect acquisition for us.


He's a 3rd option on a mid tier team at best.

For comparison, on the Knicks, at full strength (imo a contender in the East), he'd be the 4th option offensively. Yet they are trying to sell him as a #1. It's honestly a shame and I hope he asks out.

I think you’re underestimating him and it doesn’t even matter, I’d basically pay any price to add him next to OG and Brunson.


Nets' smartest move would be to tear it down and tank 2-3 seasons to get 1-2 generational talents through the draft (after getting some of their picks back from Houston).

If Bridges' agent makes it clear he wants out and doesn't want Houston, perhaps a 3-way trade could work this off-season...

NY receives: Bridges
Houston receives: Mitch Robinson, McBride, 1st from NYK
Nets receive: A Young prospect from HOU, two 1st rounders from HOU (Nets own picks)

A potential win-win-win type deal.
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Post#1970 » by KnicksGadfly » Tue Mar 5, 2024 7:14 pm

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Maybe it's my Knicks colored glasses but it feels like the Nets are going out of their way to scream to the world that they are building around Bridges because they know the Knicks would be hot after him.


This is no joke, but they’re seriously fighting for their franchise’s life right now. They were already having a tough enough time selling tickets when they were a playoff team. Now the Knicks are good and they’re bad and they have no picks.

Yes but… who the F cares?


It just explains their mindset and why the Knicks aren’t getting Mikal. I feel the logical move for them would have been to just take Houston’s deal and get their picks back.

I feel it’s a valid point to make as long as the Knicks (and their fans) have interest in reuniting the Villanova crew
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Post#1971 » by RHODEY » Tue Mar 5, 2024 8:10 pm

This is what I think it would take to get Mikal to the KnIcks.....an NBA championship. If we somehow win one it boosts our assets value even more while also boosting the chance that Mikal would force his way out to join us.
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Post#1972 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Mar 5, 2024 10:25 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:He’s certainly had a breakout since leaving Phoenix. I wouldn’t say he’s terribly outmatched and he’d also look much better if Brooklyn acquired some top level talent this summer. With that said, he’d still be the single most perfect acquisition for us.


He's a 3rd option on a mid tier team at best.

For comparison, on the Knicks, at full strength (imo a contender in the East), he'd be the 4th option offensively. Yet they are trying to sell him as a #1. It's honestly a shame and I hope he asks out.

I think you’re underestimating him and it doesn’t even matter, I’d basically pay any price to add him next to OG and Brunson.


16ppg on good efficiency if he was on a team in his proper role? I don't think that's underestimating him at all. I think that Mikal is on the same tier as OG Anunoby.

Now, is Mikal better than OG? I wouldn't call anyone wrong for saying either way, i think that OG's defensive impact is a lot higher than Bridges, i think as shooters they're about even. I just don't think he's a guy you're looking to if you're going to construct a team around someone.
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Post#1973 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Mar 5, 2024 10:28 pm

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spree2kawhi wrote:
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He's a 3rd option on a mid tier team at best.

For comparison, on the Knicks, at full strength (imo a contender in the East), he'd be the 4th option offensively. Yet they are trying to sell him as a #1. It's honestly a shame and I hope he asks out.

I think you’re underestimating him and it doesn’t even matter, I’d basically pay any price to add him next to OG and Brunson.


Nets' smartest move would be to tear it down and tank 2-3 seasons to get 1-2 generational talents through the draft (after getting some of their picks back from Houston).

If Bridges' agent makes it clear he wants out and doesn't want Houston, perhaps a 3-way trade could work this off-season...

NY receives: Bridges
Houston receives: Mitch Robinson, McBride, 1st from NYK
Nets receive: A Young prospect from HOU, two 1st rounders from HOU (Nets own picks)

A potential win-win-win type deal.



Brooklyn would rather build the Rockets just like they built the current Celtics, by gifting them multiple top 10 lottery picks.
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Post#1974 » by nykballa2k4 » Tue Mar 5, 2024 11:37 pm

Just want to chime in at how I am mad the Heat got my guy Patty Mills. What doesn't CAA have any semi-capable free agent point guards available?
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