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Re: Woj: Knicks trade for Alec Burks and Bojan Bogdanovich
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:51 pm
by knicks94
Would be nice to see that version of Bojan more often.
Re: Woj: Knicks trade for Alec Burks and Bojan Bogdanovich
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:57 pm
by Richard4444
Wildcat wrote:Bojan plays better without Burks. Happy to see him have 2 straight decent games. I think our 10-man is going to be fluid between he and Burks.
We will stick with a 9 man rotation. When the team gets 100% healthy, Bojan will be out of rotation.
Re: Woj: Knicks trade for Alec Burks and Bojan Bogdanovich
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:38 pm
by Wildcat
Richard4444 wrote:Wildcat wrote:Bojan plays better without Burks. Happy to see him have 2 straight decent games. I think our 10-man is going to be fluid between he and Burks.
We will stick with a 9 man rotation. When the team gets 100% healthy, Bojan will be out of rotation.
I don't think so. Depending on the matchup, I think Thibs is extending to 10-man rotation (not sufficient adjustment). I can't imagine Precious collecting DNP's, for example, but if they're playing against a zone defense in the playoffs, Precious' minutes will probably go down in favor of Bojan.
Re: Woj: Knicks trade for Alec Burks and Bojan Bogdanovich
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:39 pm
by Jeff Van Gully
Richard4444 wrote:Wildcat wrote:Bojan plays better without Burks. Happy to see him have 2 straight decent games. I think our 10-man is going to be fluid between he and Burks.
We will stick with a 9 man rotation. When the team gets 100% healthy, Bojan will be out of rotation.
I think the trio of bog, burks, and precious will be matchup-dependent for a bench rotation spot. I imagine preference/advantage precious.
Hart, deuce, and Mitch should be fixtures.
Re: Woj: Knicks trade for Alec Burks and Bojan Bogdanovich
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:57 pm
by cgf
MrDollarBills wrote:dakomish23 wrote:Bojan - 8 games 24.8 MPG
14.1 PPG 3.1 RPG 1.4 APG 0.6 SPG
43.3% on 11.3 FGA
36.7% on 6.1 3PA
51.2% on 5.1 2PA
81.0% on 2.6 FTA
53.3% EFG 56.9% TS
Burks - 9 games 17.1 MPG
8.4 PPG 1.8 RPG 0.9 APG 0.1 SPG
31.7% on 9.1 FGA
32.5% on 4.4 3PA
31.0% on 4.7 2PA
68.8% on 1.8 FTA
39.6% EFG 42.7% TS
Lumping these two together to pretend the trade has been trash is dumb.
Bojan's numbers will only uptick as the team gets healthier. Burks? I've seen nothing that leads me to believe he will remain in the rotation when the roster is at full strength.
Not making the case for Burks, but if someone wanted to the argument would have to be about Burks being a decent defender while Bogey's a sieve + Burks having more room to bounce back offensively. Because despite Burks' struggles, our net-rating w/ & w/o Burks goes down by -15.5pts / 100 possession, while Bogey brings us down -20.35.
https://www.pbpstats.com/wowy-combos/nba?TeamId=1610612752&Season=2023-24&SeasonType=Regular%2BSeason&PlayerIds=202711&OnlyCommonGames=truehttps://www.pbpstats.com/wowy-combos/nba?TeamId=1610612752&Season=2023-24&SeasonType=Regular%2BSeason&PlayerIds=202692&OnlyCommonGames=trueAgain not arguing for Burks to play over Bogey...especially if we get healthier, because a more specialized tool for Thibs to use like Bogey will probably be more useful than a more well-rounded minutes eater like Burks...at least unless Deuce, Donte, & Josh all just have a horrible series at the same time. Just trying to explore why Burks might.
Re: Woj: Knicks trade for Alec Burks and Bojan Bogdanovich
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:03 pm
by cgf
Jeff Van Gully wrote:Richard4444 wrote:Wildcat wrote:Bojan plays better without Burks. Happy to see him have 2 straight decent games. I think our 10-man is going to be fluid between he and Burks.
We will stick with a 9 man rotation. When the team gets 100% healthy, Bojan will be out of rotation.
I think the trio of bog, burks, and precious will be matchup-dependent for a bench rotation spot. I imagine preference/advantage precious.
Hart, deuce, and Mitch should be fixtures.
This is my expectation as well if we get healthy. Assuming an 8.5 man rotation, I think 7 spots are essentially guaranteed...Juju, OG, RobinHart, & the Nova Knicks...with Deuce & Precious currently ahead of Burks, Bogey, Sims, Milton, etc. for those final 1.5 spots in a vaccuum.
But ultimately, I expect Thibs to go with what works in a specific matchup.
If it turns out that our two-way guys are shooting like butt so teams are clogging our offense up too much for our D to overcome, but Bogey & Burks are hot and holding their own defensively, then we could see the Detroit duo getting 25-30mpg in a series with Deuce and Precious not even playing; while DDV has his minutes cut.
Re: Woj: Knicks trade for Alec Burks and Bojan Bogdanovich
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:09 pm
by Deeeez Knicks
Burks drags everyone on the team down. A huge net negative.
Re: Woj: Knicks trade for Alec Burks and Bojan Bogdanovich
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 12:26 pm
by Fat Kat
I’m guessing no contract extension for now. Hope he comes back healthy next season, and toughens up a bit.
Re: Woj: Knicks trade for Alec Burks and Bojan Bogdanovich
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 1:51 pm
by 3toheadmelo
Re: Woj: Knicks trade for Alec Burks and Bojan Bogdanovich
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:33 pm
by Chanel Bomber
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Burks drags everyone on the team down. A huge net negative.
Another victory for Team Toxic
Re: Woj: Knicks trade for Alec Burks and Bojan Bogdanovich
Posted: Mon Apr 1, 2024 12:28 pm
by moocow007
Thibs don't like Euros.
Re: Woj: Knicks trade for Alec Burks and Bojan Bogdanovich
Posted: Mon Apr 1, 2024 8:47 pm
by ITGM
Should've traded for Dejounte Murray instead, Leon.
Re: Woj: Knicks trade for Alec Burks and Bojan Bogdanovich
Posted: Mon Apr 1, 2024 9:12 pm
by Stannis
Free BB!
Re: Woj: Knicks trade for Alec Burks and Bojan Bogdanovich
Posted: Mon Apr 1, 2024 9:14 pm
by Stannis
ITGM wrote:Should've traded for Dejounte Murray instead, Leon.
Asking price was probably too much. It wasn't our year to pull the trigger on a blockbuster deal.
Next year we still have BB as an expiring + all our 1st round picks.
Re: Woj: Knicks trade for Alec Burks and Bojan Bogdanovich
Posted: Mon Apr 1, 2024 9:15 pm
by Stannis
He's barely getting 20 MPG with Randle injured... Give Hart a rest day and let BB cook.
Re: Woj: Knicks trade for Alec Burks and Bojan Bogdanovich
Posted: Mon Apr 1, 2024 9:23 pm
by Iron Mantis
Burks and Bojan suck and are useless in competitive basketball.
Grimes and Fournier >>>>>>>>>>>>> washed Malik Rose and poor man's Fournier.
Re: Woj: Knicks trade for Alec Burks and Bojan Bogdanovich
Posted: Wed Apr 3, 2024 5:37 pm
by BigShot Bojan
Stannis wrote:Free BB!
Re: Woj: Knicks trade for Alec Burks and Bojan Bogdanovich
Posted: Thu Apr 4, 2024 11:27 am
by thebuzzardman
If Bogs and Burks were house pets, they would be euthanized, probably in a 2 for 1 special down at the mall, at Euthanize Palace.
Re: Woj: Knicks trade for Alec Burks and Bojan Bogdanovich
Posted: Thu Apr 4, 2024 1:37 pm
by cgf
Stannis wrote:He's barely getting 20 MPG with Randle injured... Give Hart a rest day and let BB cook.
Hard to give BB minutes when we're trying to win games. This isn't a development team anymore.
Re: Woj: Knicks trade for Alec Burks and Bojan Bogdanovich
Posted: Fri Apr 5, 2024 12:21 am
by Stannis
In all seriousness, Pistons had like 6 wins at the time of the trade and dead last. There's no way anybody on that team was valuable.