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Luv those Knicks wrote:Am I the only one who thinks the Knicks did him dirty, signing him on the cheap before his minutes went up? They limited Mitch's minutes before extending him too. With the cap, this kind of shenanigan might be necessary but it's unfortunate.

If I'm wrong, let me know, but that's what it looks like to me. If I see it, I'm sure the players see it.

KnixtapeH20 wrote:

FrozenEnvelope wrote:

KnixtapeH20 wrote:Couldn't happen at a better more opportune time. His defense is ELITE and always has been but now he's in killer mode. He's running the team, attacking the paint, sniping from 3... he's always had the mid range which is rare in today's NBA.

He's just got his confidence thru the roof, which he's never really lacked but it must of been so frustrating not getting a chance to showcase his talent and get consistent minutes to really help this team.

He can flat out WRECK a game with his defense alone. Now he's showing he can be an important 2-way player.... that is HUGE for us at the PERFECT time. He adds a special talent to a fully healthy team but given our state of injuries he's proving even more vital.

He's proving he can be trusted. This is like getting a 1st round ready draft pick or trading for an impact player right before the playoffs.... aka Marcus Smart

Do you give Thibs and the coaching staff any credit for Deuce's development?

I've always given Thibs credit for player development but in the same token some of yall act like they wouldn't develop w.o Thibs or with a different coach... or maybe they would of developed a lot sooner had they gotten consistent minutes

There's no way to know but I've always maintained Thibs was a good coach not a great coach for many painfully obvious reasons. Brunson 100% saved his job and so did Randle during that December stretch 2 years ago when we looked like we were nose diving and shifting to the lottery

I also have always credited Thibs for changing the culture at a DIRE time of need but the game has passed him by for a long time now and he's not a coach to get u over the hump. Nobody was hiring him but us

knicks94 wrote:I hope not one Knicks fan continues crying about the Knicks trading IQ.

KnicksGadfly wrote:

knicks94 wrote:I hope not one Knicks fan continues crying about the Knicks trading IQ.

Sounds to me like you just didn’t appreciate IQ. That’s a very sad thing that probably says more about you as a fan than anything.

Luv those Knicks wrote:Am I the only one who thinks the Knicks did him dirty, signing him on the cheap before his minutes went up? They limited Mitch's minutes before extending him too. With the cap, this kind of shenanigan might be necessary but it's unfortunate.

If I'm wrong, let me know, but that's what it looks like to me. If I see it, I'm sure the players see it.

GONYK wrote:Deuce has been playing really well and I'm so happy for him and the team.

He's doing what Grimes couldn't, which is simply shoot the ball every time you get a clean look. I don't know what Q's mental block was around that, but that's a big reason why he's gone.

Deuce put trust in all his work and fires confidently without hesitation.

Iron Mantis wrote:

KnixtapeH20 wrote:

FrozenEnvelope wrote:
Do you give Thibs and the coaching staff any credit for Deuce's development?

I've always given Thibs credit for player development but in the same token some of yall act like they wouldn't develop w.o Thibs or with a different coach... or maybe they would of developed a lot sooner had they gotten consistent minutes

There's no way to know but I've always maintained Thibs was a good coach not a great coach for many painfully obvious reasons. Brunson 100% saved his job and so did Randle during that December stretch 2 years ago when we looked like we were nose diving and shifting to the lottery

I also have always credited Thibs for changing the culture at a DIRE time of need but the game has passed him by for a long time now and he's not a coach to get u over the hump. Nobody was hiring him but us

Didn't even touch the floor in 42 out of the 82 games his rookie season.

Sophomore season, had 18 DNP's and 28 of his 66 games played were only 9 minutes or less, most in garbage time.

This season, injuries forced him into the rotation, much like how Thibs was first forced to free Grimes.




Deuce could realistically be a year behind in his development. Nevertheless, I'm thankful he's getting the chance to shine. Unfortunately, he's probably taking Grimes' place in a star trade this summer.

Wildcat wrote:

GONYK wrote:Deuce has been playing really well and I'm so happy for him and the team.

He's doing what Grimes couldn't, which is simply shoot the ball every time you get a clean look. I don't know what Q's mental block was around that, but that's a big reason why he's gone.

Deuce put trust in all his work and fires confidently without hesitation.

Grimes was too busy looking over his shoulder at Ragu even though he was there to replace IQ. 100% mental block. A fresh start is going to do him well next season. I'm still on Team Grimes. Just wish he got out of his own way. Also, not sure what's going on with his knee, but they should shut him down.

nykballa2k4 wrote:

Iron Mantis wrote:

KnixtapeH20 wrote:I've always given Thibs credit for player development but in the same token some of yall act like they wouldn't develop w.o Thibs or with a different coach... or maybe they would of developed a lot sooner had they gotten consistent minutes

There's no way to know but I've always maintained Thibs was a good coach not a great coach for many painfully obvious reasons. Brunson 100% saved his job and so did Randle during that December stretch 2 years ago when we looked like we were nose diving and shifting to the lottery

I also have always credited Thibs for changing the culture at a DIRE time of need but the game has passed him by for a long time now and he's not a coach to get u over the hump. Nobody was hiring him but us

Didn't even touch the floor in 42 out of the 82 games his rookie season.

Sophomore season, had 18 DNP's and 28 of his 66 games played were only 9 minutes or less, most in garbage time.

This season, injuries forced him into the rotation, much like how Thibs was first forced to free Grimes.




Deuce could realistically be a year behind in his development. Nevertheless, I'm thankful he's getting the chance to shine. Unfortunately, he's probably taking Grimes' place in a star trade this summer.

Honestly, I don't think his value is going to spike all that much. I mean he is someone who will be tradable so inherently requested, but he is a 3-D 2 guards in a big point guard body.

Luv those Knicks wrote:Am I the only one who thinks the Knicks did him dirty, signing him on the cheap before his minutes went up? They limited Mitch's minutes before extending him too. With the cap, this kind of shenanigan might be necessary but it's unfortunate.

If I'm wrong, let me know, but that's what it looks like to me. If I see it, I'm sure the players see it.

Wildcat wrote:

Luv those Knicks wrote:Am I the only one who thinks the Knicks did him dirty, signing him on the cheap before his minutes went up? They limited Mitch's minutes before extending him too. With the cap, this kind of shenanigan might be necessary but it's unfortunate.

If I'm wrong, let me know, but that's what it looks like to me. If I see it, I'm sure the players see it.

I don't see it. He was never guaranteed to see minutes. The natural progression was Grimes sliding into IQ's spot, which he did for a moment, but got hurt. Even after the OG trade, his number wasn't called unless Grimes was out. When the Detroit trade happened, it was Burks who was suppose to slide in that spot. And that flopped. He was only averaging 15 MPG in January. Deuce's surge in minutes are the results of their injuries and Grimes/Burks lackluster playing. That's why you stay hungry, because you never know when your number will be called.

This is all Deuce.

Chanel Bomber wrote:

Wildcat wrote:

Luv those Knicks wrote:Am I the only one who thinks the Knicks did him dirty, signing him on the cheap before his minutes went up? They limited Mitch's minutes before extending him too. With the cap, this kind of shenanigan might be necessary but it's unfortunate.

If I'm wrong, let me know, but that's what it looks like to me. If I see it, I'm sure the players see it.

I don't see it. He was never guaranteed to see minutes. The natural progression was Grimes sliding into IQ's spot, which he did for a moment, but got hurt. Even after the OG trade, his number wasn't called unless Grimes was out. When the Detroit trade happened, it was Burks who was suppose to slide in that spot. And that flopped. He was only averaging 15 MPG in January. Deuce's surge in minutes are the results of their injuries and Grimes/Burks lackluster playing. That's why you stay hungry, because you never know when your number will be called.

This is all Deuce.

As I remember, the Knicks extended McBride right after Grimes complained publicly about his role.

Grimes's days may have been numbered from that point on, and the FO saw McBride as a natural replacement, hence the extended him ahead of an increase in playing time whereby his value might have increased as well.

I do think the timing of the extension was calculated. It does seem a bit dodgy. But at least Deuce got some security out of it, assuming he doesn't mess up.

While he has played sparingly this season McBride figures to play a larger role with the Knicks in the immediate future: while the Anunoby trade also netted backcourt depth in the form of Malachi Flynn, the Knicks (17-15) will likely try to utilize any form of familiarity while the incoming Raptors settle in.

Shortly before news of his deal broke, McBride played a season-high 18 minutes in Saturday's 140-126 loss to the Indiana Pacers. The West Virginia alum, affectionately referred to as "Deuce" put up five points and an assist. He was charged with three fouls but the Knicks were a plus-7 when he was on the floor.

FrozenEnvelope wrote:

KnixtapeH20 wrote:Couldn't happen at a better more opportune time. His defense is ELITE and always has been but now he's in killer mode. He's running the team, attacking the paint, sniping from 3... he's always had the mid range which is rare in today's NBA.

He's just got his confidence thru the roof, which he's never really lacked but it must of been so frustrating not getting a chance to showcase his talent and get consistent minutes to really help this team.

He can flat out WRECK a game with his defense alone. Now he's showing he can be an important 2-way player.... that is HUGE for us at the PERFECT time. He adds a special talent to a fully healthy team but given our state of injuries he's proving even more vital.

He's proving he can be trusted. This is like getting a 1st round ready draft pick or trading for an impact player right before the playoffs.... aka Marcus Smart

Do you give Thibs and the coaching staff any credit for Deuce's development?

3toheadmelo wrote:

Chanel Bomber wrote:

Wildcat wrote:
I don't see it. He was never guaranteed to see minutes. The natural progression was Grimes sliding into IQ's spot, which he did for a moment, but got hurt. Even after the OG trade, his number wasn't called unless Grimes was out. When the Detroit trade happened, it was Burks who was suppose to slide in that spot. And that flopped. He was only averaging 15 MPG in January. Deuce's surge in minutes are the results of their injuries and Grimes/Burks lackluster playing. That's why you stay hungry, because you never know when your number will be called.

This is all Deuce.

As I remember, the Knicks extended McBride right after Grimes complained publicly about his role.

Grimes's days may have been numbered from that point on, and the FO saw McBride as a natural replacement, hence the extended him ahead of an increase in playing time whereby his value might have increased as well.

I do think the timing of the extension was calculated. It does seem a bit dodgy. But at least Deuce got some security out of it, assuming he doesn't mess up.

they signed the extension right after iq got traded. they knew deuce was going to get a bigger role since iq was gone. don't think it has anything to do with grimes.

While he has played sparingly this season McBride figures to play a larger role with the Knicks in the immediate future: while the Anunoby trade also netted backcourt depth in the form of Malachi Flynn, the Knicks (17-15) will likely try to utilize any form of familiarity while the incoming Raptors settle in.

Shortly before news of his deal broke, McBride played a season-high 18 minutes in Saturday's 140-126 loss to the Indiana Pacers. The West Virginia alum, affectionately referred to as "Deuce" put up five points and an assist. He was charged with three fouls but the Knicks were a plus-7 when he was on the floor.

this was a risky extension because deuce barely played and in those mins he looked pretty shaky. and it made sense for deuce to lock in that extension because he literally didnt prove anything at that point. of course he could've said no and bet on himself, but it made sense to get that financial security

Chanel Bomber wrote:

3toheadmelo wrote:

Chanel Bomber wrote:As I remember, the Knicks extended McBride right after Grimes complained publicly about his role.

Grimes's days may have been numbered from that point on, and the FO saw McBride as a natural replacement, hence the extended him ahead of an increase in playing time whereby his value might have increased as well.

I do think the timing of the extension was calculated. It does seem a bit dodgy. But at least Deuce got some security out of it, assuming he doesn't mess up.

they signed the extension right after iq got traded. they knew deuce was going to get a bigger role since iq was gone. don't think it has anything to do with grimes.

While he has played sparingly this season McBride figures to play a larger role with the Knicks in the immediate future: while the Anunoby trade also netted backcourt depth in the form of Malachi Flynn, the Knicks (17-15) will likely try to utilize any form of familiarity while the incoming Raptors settle in.

Shortly before news of his deal broke, McBride played a season-high 18 minutes in Saturday's 140-126 loss to the Indiana Pacers. The West Virginia alum, affectionately referred to as "Deuce" put up five points and an assist. He was charged with three fouls but the Knicks were a plus-7 when he was on the floor.

this was a risky extension because deuce barely played and in those mins he looked pretty shaky. and it made sense for deuce to lock in that extension because he literally didnt prove anything at that point. of course he could've said no and bet on himself, but it made sense to get that financial security

Chanel Bomber with the fake news once again!!!!!!

Chanel Bomber wrote:As I remember, the Knicks extended McBride right after Grimes complained publicly about his role.

Grimes's days may have been numbered from that point on, and the FO saw McBride as a natural replacement, hence the extended him ahead of an increase in playing time whereby his value might have increased as well.

I do think the timing of the extension was calculated. It does seem a bit dodgy. But at least Deuce got some security out of it, assuming he doesn't mess up.