Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread

[cgf]

His value didn't increase that much since Utah traded him and he has a shorter contract now with no guarantee that he will sign an extension. Cleveland still has some leverage but not a whole lot especially when everyone knows that he isn't going to sign with them.

Desperate Miami & Brooklyn teams could make the bidding war trickier than it was last time though.

I don't see how Miami and Brooklyn can match us unless Cavs are rebuilding.

We can definitely dangle Randle or are you thinking it is Bojan + fillers + draft capital?

Depends on what the Cavs want and how desperate the Heat get. If the Cavs want a soft rebuild around Garland & Mobley's age range, then a deal built around Jaquez, Herro and picks could be more interesting than our offers. If the Cavs want to keep contending and the Heat get very ruthless, they might dangle Jimmy rather than risk being on the hook for his next contract. Plus there's potential for a Bridges+ package from the Nets...so who knows what'll happen?

Also I'm not sure about swapping Randle for Mitchell...not only would that mean finding a third team for it to entice Cleveland, but I'm not sure that actually improves us. I get the argument for upgrading on DiVo to Donovan if we could get him for DDV + Bogey + picks, but pushing DDV to the bench and also losing Randle feels too lateral for me to be that excited by it.

Just don't like the idea of having zero front court creation.

[aggo]

Brunson | McBride | Milton
DiVincenzo | Caruso
Anunoby | Hart | Kispert
Randle | Achiuwa
Robinson | Hartenstein | Sims
+ #25
+ #38

That defense would win a title, Wizards would do it for the picks, and the Bulls could solidify their grip on the 9th seed.

White | Dosunmu
Lavine | Terry
DeRozan | Williams
Kuzma | Bogdanovic
Vucevic | Drummond
+ #11
+ #24

Stars win championships.

Not a collection of Alex carusos

[cgf]

Brunson | McBride | Milton
DiVincenzo | Caruso
Anunoby | Hart | Kispert
Randle | Achiuwa
Robinson | Hartenstein | Sims
+ #25
+ #38

That defense would win a title, Wizards would do it for the picks, and the Bulls could solidify their grip on the 9th seed.

White | Dosunmu
Lavine | Terry
DeRozan | Williams
Kuzma | Bogdanovic
Vucevic | Drummond
+ #11
+ #24

Stars win championships.

Not a collection of Alex carusos

There's not a Big 3 in the league that could match Anunoby / Caruso / Robinson

[Richard4444]

His value didn't increase that much since Utah traded him and he has a shorter contract now with no guarantee that he will sign an extension. Cleveland still has some leverage but not a whole lot especially when everyone knows that he isn't going to sign with them.

Desperate Miami & Brooklyn teams could make the bidding war trickier than it was last time though.

I don't see how Miami and Brooklyn can match us unless Cavs are rebuilding.

We can definitely dangle Randle or are you thinking it is Bojan + fillers + draft capital?

It would have to be a 3 team trade in any scenario because even Randle would not be exciting for the Cavs (they already have Mobley and Jallen Allen).

By the way, Randle is a hard sell. Although he is a very good player, he is not an easy fit. He is not a great defender or shooter. His bully ball style is ugly for casuals and it is not very efficient against great defenses. Besides, he has the reputation to choke in big games. He will be 30 next season and he will demand a 40M+/y deal.

[aggo]

Brunson | McBride | Milton
DiVincenzo | Caruso
Anunoby | Hart | Kispert
Randle | Achiuwa
Robinson | Hartenstein | Sims
+ #25
+ #38

That defense would win a title, Wizards would do it for the picks, and the Bulls could solidify their grip on the 9th seed.

White | Dosunmu
Lavine | Terry
DeRozan | Williams
Kuzma | Bogdanovic
Vucevic | Drummond
+ #11
+ #24

Stars win championships.

Not a collection of Alex carusos

There's not a Big 3 in the league that could match Anunoby / Caruso / Robinson

Championships are won because you can score more points than your opponent. If what you wrote was even remotely true, Jamaal Murray’s highlight package against the Lakers wouldn’t exist

[cgf]

Stars win championships.

Not a collection of Alex carusos

There's not a Big 3 in the league that could match Anunoby / Caruso / Robinson

Championships are won because you can score more points than your opponent. If what you wrote was even remotely true, Jamaal Murray’s highlight package against the Lakers wouldn’t exist

And nobody is scoring more points than Brundle if we put those three next to them

[KnixinSix]

No thanks on Mitchell.

While he is certainly a star, his fit next to Brunson requires too much retooling the offense and the fit is questionable. His track record in the playoffs is long enough to know hes not worth giving up 4 frps+ deuce.

In a vacuum you jump at taking a guy that’s a top 20 player. But the fit is just too questionable now with how much overlap between Brunson needing the ball to be effective and Mitchell needing the ball.

At minimum if Mitchell is the guy that comes here, Randle has to leave. 3 high USG guys that don’t do much else is not a winning formula. And despite what ppl may think, Randle is probably the best playmaker of the three in terms of getting his teammates easy shots.



The best fit next to Brunson is upgrading Randle with KAT. Then you expand iHart’s offense to be a 12ppg guy.

Those are fits that do not disturb any offense, touches, usg, nova guys, and keep our defensive flexibility of OG-Hart defending 1-5 and elite wings

Brunson's game is very taxing on his body. Add that he is getting blitzed everytime he touches the ball and falling to the floor on most drives to the hoop with contact .

You bring in a guy that allows him to play more off ball, force coverage and abuse off of him bc he is an elite scorer too, and finally sometimes bring the ball up the court would be huge.

[KnixinSix]

I still want Donovan Mitchell

What would you be willing to offer?

Draft picks. I'm not good at constructing potential trades

McBride, Bogdanovic, Sims, Rights to Jokas and 4FRPs.

[Jeffrey]

Any salary cap experts here?

What type of exception do we have this coming offseason? MLE? bi-annual exception?

[cgf]

Any salary cap experts here?

What type of exception do we have this coming offseason? MLE? bi-annual exception?

Depends on how much re-signing our guys costs and how many picks we make. We could be right up against the second apron with OG, IH, and Precious needing new deals if they're all brought back, plus another ~5M for our picks if we keep them.

[spree2kawhi]

- Randle and Bogdanovic for KAT
- Robinson, McBride and whatever picks for Bridges

Brunson
Bridges
Anunoby
KAT
Hartenstein

can go small with with DiVincenzo plus KAT at center. This would be a perfect summer imo.

[thebuzzardman]

- Randle and Bogdanovic for KAT
- Robinson, McBride and whatever picks for Bridges

Brunson
Bridges
Anunoby
KAT
Hartenstein

can go small with with DiVincenzo plus KAT at center. This would be a perfect summer imo.

This is the best version of a team that is good in general but matches up against the C's, to get out of the east, in particular.

[spree2kawhi]

- Randle and Bogdanovic for KAT
- Robinson, McBride and whatever picks for Bridges

Brunson
Bridges
Anunoby
KAT
Hartenstein

can go small with with DiVincenzo plus KAT at center. This would be a perfect summer imo.

This is the best version of a team that is good in general but matches up against the C's, to get out of the east, in particular.

Also both, more feasible and better than anything you could build around volume scorers à la Booker or Mitchell. The fit is just marvelous, the defense unreal, the depth unparalleled. I want this.

[Juco24]

No thanks on Mitchell.

While he is certainly a star, his fit next to Brunson requires too much retooling the offense and the fit is questionable. His track record in the playoffs is long enough to know hes not worth giving up 4 frps+ deuce.

In a vacuum you jump at taking a guy that’s a top 20 player. But the fit is just too questionable now with how much overlap between Brunson needing the ball to be effective and Mitchell needing the ball.

At minimum if Mitchell is the guy that comes here, Randle has to leave. 3 high USG guys that don’t do much else is not a winning formula. And despite what ppl may think, Randle is probably the best playmaker of the three in terms of getting his teammates easy shots.



The best fit next to Brunson is upgrading Randle with KAT. Then you expand iHart’s offense to be a 12ppg guy.

Those are fits that do not disturb any offense, touches, usg, nova guys, and keep our defensive flexibility of OG-Hart defending 1-5 and elite wings

Brunson's game is very taxing on his body. Add that he is getting blitzed everytime he touches the ball and falling to the floor on most drives to the hoop with contact .

You bring in a guy that allows him to play more off ball, force coverage and abuse off of him bc he is an elite scorer too, and finally sometimes bring the ball up the court would be huge.

EXACTLY!!!!!! He needs help that can be RELIED ON CONSISTENTLY

[spree2kawhi]

No thanks on Mitchell.

While he is certainly a star, his fit next to Brunson requires too much retooling the offense and the fit is questionable. His track record in the playoffs is long enough to know hes not worth giving up 4 frps+ deuce.

In a vacuum you jump at taking a guy that’s a top 20 player. But the fit is just too questionable now with how much overlap between Brunson needing the ball to be effective and Mitchell needing the ball.

At minimum if Mitchell is the guy that comes here, Randle has to leave. 3 high USG guys that don’t do much else is not a winning formula. And despite what ppl may think, Randle is probably the best playmaker of the three in terms of getting his teammates easy shots.



The best fit next to Brunson is upgrading Randle with KAT. Then you expand iHart’s offense to be a 12ppg guy.

Those are fits that do not disturb any offense, touches, usg, nova guys, and keep our defensive flexibility of OG-Hart defending 1-5 and elite wings

Brunson's game is very taxing on his body. Add that he is getting blitzed everytime he touches the ball and falling to the floor on most drives to the hoop with contact .

You bring in a guy that allows him to play more off ball, force coverage and abuse off of him bc he is an elite scorer too, and finally sometimes bring the ball up the court would be huge.

EXACTLY!!!!!! He needs help that can be RELIED ON CONSISTENTLY

Towns is a player that’ll contribute shooting and he’ll rotate the ball. This will create an environment where Brunson doesn’t need to dribble the ball that much, plus KAT can give everybody a breather and go to work in the low post. You should all watch as much of Minnesota as you can going forward. Towns has looked really unselfish and he’s been very consistent, averaging 20 and 9 in the playoffs on 50+ percent shooting from the field and from three. This is who you need, not another (wannabe) hero from a losing team.

[Knicksrule2k4]

I think KAT might be playing himself into not being traded.

[NoLayupRule]

We should seriously consider butler
He’d fit well here

[spree2kawhi]

We should seriously consider butler
He’d fit well here

Injury prone non-shooter. No, seriously, I thought the same


1. KAT
2. Mitchell
3. Bridges
4. Jimmy
5. Booker :/
6. DeRozan
7. Caruso

etc.

[cgf]

We should seriously consider butler
He’d fit well here

I like the idea of putting the two biggest killers in the east together, but if we lose Ju to bring Jimmy in I think we still need to bring in another higher level creator.

So I’m not sure what formulation would make most sense for both sides. To make the cap math work we’re looking at something like Bogey + JuJu or Bogey + DDV/Hart + Mitch.

So we’re probably looking at a 3 or 4 team trade to entice Miami and we’re probably going to need a follow up trade since either of those structures leaves us with holes to fill:

Brunson | McBride | Milton?
DiVincenzo | Burks?
Butler | Hart
Anunoby | Achiuwa
Robinson | Hartenstein | Sims

Brunson | McBride | Milton?
Butler | Burks?
Anunoby | Hart/DDV
Randle | Achiuwa
Hartenstein | Sims

[NoLayupRule]

We should seriously consider butler
He’d fit well here

I like the idea of putting the two biggest killers in the east together, but if we lose Ju to bring Jimmy in I think we still need to bring in another higher level creator.

So I’m not sure what formulation would make most sense for both sides. To make the cap math work we’re looking at something like Bogey + JuJu or Bogey + DDV/Hart + Mitch.

So we’re probably looking at a 3 or 4 team trade to entice Miami and we’re probably going to need a follow up trade since either of those structures leaves us with holes to fill:

Brunson | McBride | Milton?
DiVincenzo | Burks?
Butler | Hart
Anunoby | Achiuwa
Robinson | Hartenstein | Sims

Brunson | McBride | Milton?
Butler | Burks?
Anunoby | Hart/DDV
Randle | Achiuwa
Hartenstein | Sims

I totally get the concerns, although last time jimmy was a target the same complaints were put forth and all he did was excel

I don’t think we give up randle in a butler trade
As hard as that might be to make things work financially
If it’s possible I think you do it that way

Miami doesn’t need him especially if they are moving on from butler.

Jimmy gets hurt but he also plays hard as nails and leads and defends

Brunson
Devo
OG
Butler
Hartenstien

Sickness
Or slot hart in and move og to the 2?