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Game Thread: New York Knicks (3-1) vs. Philadelphia 76ers (1-3) Tuesday, April 30th, 7:00 PM EST

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Re: Game Thread: New York Knicks (3-1) vs. Philadelphia 76ers (1-3) Tuesday, April 30th, 7:00 PM EST 

Post#21 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Apr 29, 2024 3:48 pm

sol537 wrote:let iHart wear Embiid down for 3 quarters then finish the game with this line up again: Brunson, McBride, Hart, OG, and Precious with OG smothering Embiid again and Precious waiting for the weakside double/help... Might be our "death" line-up through sheer defense/hustle.


Yep let Brother Hartenstein use all 6 fouls to gas Embiid. Soften him up real good for OG to physically punish him. Those paint plays were some seriously physical hoops and I know Embiid is in pain this morning.

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Re: Game Thread: New York Knicks (3-1) vs. Philadelphia 76ers (1-3) Tuesday, April 30th, 7:00 PM EST 

Post#23 » by sol537 » Mon Apr 29, 2024 3:53 pm

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sol537 wrote:let iHart wear Embiid down for 3 quarters then finish the game with this line up again: Brunson, McBride, Hart, OG, and Precious with OG smothering Embiid again and Precious waiting for the weakside double/help... Might be our "death" line-up through sheer defense/hustle.


Yep let Brother Hartenstein use all 6 fouls to gas Embiid. Soften him up real good for OG to physically punish him. Those paint plays were some seriously physical hoops and I know Embiid is in pain this morning.

Good.


Yup... can't put OG on Embiid all game because OG will inevitably get into foul trouble so save this clever tactic for the 4th quarter.

I also liked how Thibs had Hart, DDV, and McBride on Maxey most of the game with OG playing free safety on Tobias.... OG was providing strategic help on Embiid and Maxey whenever they attacked the paint and Brunson was waiting behind to rotate to the open shooter every time. Great(!) adjustment from game three to game four. Exactly what I wanted to see more of.
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Post#24 » by sol537 » Mon Apr 29, 2024 3:55 pm

OG's impact in yesterday's game was as high as Brunson... OG was aggressive with strategic help, contested everything, and attacked the rim with aggression. One of his best games as a Knick and I hope to see even more of this type of 2-way play from OG the rest of these playoffs.
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we have way too many important pieces who are impending free agents…
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Post#31 » by Context » Mon Apr 29, 2024 4:01 pm

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we have way too many important pieces who are impending free agents…

I havent looked at the cap-do we have the cap space to sign all of them?
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we have way too many important pieces who are impending free agents…

I havent looked at the cap-do we have the cap space to sign all of them?

it’s gonna get a bit tricky, fo has some hard decisions to make
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Post#34 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Apr 29, 2024 4:08 pm

From DollarBills in the locked PG thread:

Also can we give Donte some love here? He woke up on the road at the right time. Those threes he hit were critical shots. I wasn't worried about him, roleplayers play shaky on the road, but he stepped up at the right time.


Was talking about this with my brother. Besides the fact Donte is clutch, is that the Knicks have a number of good 3 point shooters, something I know I complained about in the past and was also brought up on this forum many many times.

Now the Knicks roll out Brunson, Donte, McBride, OG, with Hart coming and going, but still a threat at times, and whatever Bogs can bring off the bench.

That's 5, maybe 6, threats from 3.

This depth is important, because if one guy is cold, another might pick up the slack or have a hot shooting night.
In the past, the Knicks didn't have enough 3 point shooters to offset a bad night from their more meager amount of shooters.

The team has good depth. Shows up with Precious contributing. The Knicks legit go 9 deep. I get that in the playoffs it's usually 7 or 8 guys, but the last few are for the inevitable injuries or foul trouble.
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Post#35 » by sol537 » Mon Apr 29, 2024 4:14 pm

What bothers me a bit is that Precious is an impact defender and hustle player and Thibs would not have played him at all this season had Mitchell Robinson not been hurt (twice!)….
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Post#36 » by KnicksGod » Mon Apr 29, 2024 4:14 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:From DollarBills in the locked PG thread:

Also can we give Donte some love here? He woke up on the road at the right time. Those threes he hit were critical shots. I wasn't worried about him, roleplayers play shaky on the road, but he stepped up at the right time.


Was talking about this with my brother. Besides the fact Donte is clutch, is that the Knicks have a number of good 3 point shooters, something I know I complained about in the past and was also brought up on this forum many many times.

Now the Knicks roll out Brunson, Donte, McBride, OG, with Hart coming and going, but still a threat at times, and whatever Bogs can bring off the bench.

That's 5, maybe 6, threats from 3.

This depth is important, because if one guy is cold, another might pick up the slack or have a hot shooting night.
In the past, the Knicks didn't have enough 3 point shooters to offset a bad night from their more meager amount of shooters.

The team has good depth. Shows up with Precious contributing. The Knicks legit go 9 deep. I get that in the playoffs it's usually 7 or 8 guys, but the last few are for the inevitable injuries or foul trouble.


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Re: Game Thread: New York Knicks (3-1) vs. Philadelphia 76ers (1-3) Tuesday, April 30th, 7:00 PM EST 

Post#37 » by KnicksGod » Mon Apr 29, 2024 4:16 pm

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we have way too many important pieces who are impending free agents…


One counterargument is that Mitch, iHart and Precious is too many guys (not necessarily) so if Hartenstein is signed, we keep Precious. If Hartenstein returns, tough call and depends on what Precious's number looks like.
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Post#38 » by Context » Mon Apr 29, 2024 4:18 pm

This dynamic was necessary to win Game 4:
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Post#39 » by DaGawd » Mon Apr 29, 2024 4:18 pm

sol537 wrote:What bothers me a bit is that Precious is an impact defender and hustle player and Thibs would not have played him at all this season had Mitchell Robinson not been hurt (twice!)….

so? he’s basically just injury insurance.. situational, nothing wrong with that
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Re: Game Thread: New York Knicks (3-1) vs. Philadelphia 76ers (1-3) Tuesday, April 30th, 7:00 PM EST 

Post#40 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Apr 29, 2024 4:19 pm

I might be wrong, but if the Knicks trade Bogs and Mitch for Booker, and don't resign Burks, that might work under the cap.

Clearly the Knicks would have to include about 5 1st round picks.

I go back and forth if he's worth it.

Booker is good on and off the ball, so that fits with Brunson.
Brunson the same, so fits with Booker.

It upgrades the SG position while the bench gets stronger at the wing, but less so at C.
Not sure Knicks can do this trade and retain Precious, which would be needed if dealing Mitch, even though he's a different kind of player from Mitch.

Not sure about the implications of Booker's salary going up over the next few years.
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