PG: Maxey travels for the win, Maxey doesn't miss.. tough tough loss.

[Capn'O]

It's just like boxing, you don't want to go to the judges score cards, just like you don't want the refs deciding games. Deliver the knockout, eliminate the bias.

Knicks need a knock out in Philly.

[Fury]

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[aq_ua]

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[KnicksGadfly]

Talking out my ass? Bruh, you need to get your head out your ass and start paying attention to what’s actually happening in these games.

How you guys not notice any adjustments all season? Playing smaller lineups for example, or benching Burks. Not an adjustment? How the fuq we win 50 games and land #2 seed losing Randle, OG, and Mitch if not for making the correct adjustments? How we have the best defensive rating in the league in March without our 2 defensive anchors in Mitch and OG if not for adjustments??? Keeping iHart as a starter despite Mitch coming back… not an adjustment?

This series… how about taking OG off Maxey for starters cuz that clearly wasn’t working. How about putting OG on Embiid last game when iHart got in foul trouble?

Brunson was murdered in Game 1 & 2… you think his game plan coming in Game 3 & 4 was all on him? You don’t think the adjustments to attack each defender in a specific way comes from the coach? Having iHart flipping screens to free him up more, attacking Embiid, playing off ball more and running around screens acting as a decoy to free up/set up his teammates because of his gravity. That’s not coaching tho?

Wtf you watching?

A coach who burned his players all year, I'm watching Brunson put up brutal 4th quarters. Most of the adjustments you cite are just injuries. Benching Burks? Lol no ****, he was shooting 30%, thanks Pat Riley. We won 50 games because he burned Randle, Mitch and Brunson and the East sucks ass. A team *10* games under 500 made a playin game, the West 10 games over 500 made the playin. fIFtY wins got you the 5th seed in the West, I mean wtf are you watching?

This is the 4th seed banner hanging all over, Thibs is worthless in the playoffs, he's a total counterfeit and always has been.

I don't think it matters, this team doesn't have conference finals talent anyway. No coach is changing that, with Randont or without him.

Weak response. Be better

You gotta be more understanding towards nedleeds man. It must have been excruciating for him when the Knicks were winning and the fans became enthusiastic. Now we're coming off this bad loss and I gotta tell you man, he has this one shot, this opportunity to seize everything he's ever wanted in one moment, and he's gotta capture it and not let it slip.

[KnicksGod]

Knicks’ main problem now is Maxey will be hot rest of the way and Brunson seems stuck on trying to win it by himself if it gets close

He needs to pull back and make plays

Who says he’s gonna be hot the rest of the way? The Sixers made like 10/13 from 3 in the 3rd quarter of game 3 and then couldn’t score for 6 minutes to end game 4. Every game is different…

Fair enough.

[3toheadmelo]

Please change the thread title back to something respectable. This is bad juju. We blew that game and I don't want to see us whine about it. Focus.

we're all gonna blame imcominghome if we lose the next game now

[Clyde_Style]

Free Previous!!!

You're a and a scholar

[Clyde_Style]

Please change the thread title back to something respectable. This is bad juju. We blew that game and I don't want to see us whine about it. Focus.

We earned that loss and no one can take that away from us

[Luv those Knicks]

Fixed the title

LTM report does not make anyone feel any better

True, but it makes it a little better that Sixers fans can't cry about Game 2 at all now.

I like LTM reports. It shows a more unbiased look at the final 2 minutes. Even if the game isn't overturned (and that almost never happens), the league admits ref mistakes. I'm OK with that.

I don't care about Maxey's travel, because, like game 2 - Refs can't call that in the closing minute.

The Knicks blew the game. Thibs blew the game. You've got to take that and move on. The report, while it takes some sting out of it, doesn't change the real culprit of this loss. Dumb mistakes. NY had this game.

[nykfan42]

So much to say but nothing that hasn't been said before. Simply put you HAVE to foul Maxey before he even crosses midcourt. You don't even let him try to attempt a shot with a 3 point lead. You control the game. They handed this game to the Sixers with way to many mental miscues on the defensive end. I'm still heated after that game and couldn't sleep. I can't believe it bc this was in the bag. and could have been the first time in 25 years they won a series at home. The garden was electric, all wasted. Talk me off the ledge bc a loss like that really stings when I've been waiting for a team like this for 20+ years...

It’s sports man, but feel the same. You’re gambling with your hope and mood lol.

I know I'm not suicidal or anything haha. Just exaggerating to make a point. When you're so emotionally invested in something for so long and it gets taken away in 30 secs it's tough. That's literally what happened. I hope they just close it out tomorrow bc if it goes to a game 7.... I don't have much confidence even tho it's at home. How many times roughly has a team blown a 3-1 lead?

[KnicksGod]

So much to say but nothing that hasn't been said before. Simply put you HAVE to foul Maxey before he even crosses midcourt. You don't even let him try to attempt a shot with a 3 point lead. You control the game. They handed this game to the Sixers with way to many mental miscues on the defensive end. I'm still heated after that game and couldn't sleep. I can't believe it bc this was in the bag. and could have been the first time in 25 years they won a series at home. The garden was electric, all wasted. Talk me off the ledge bc a loss like that really stings when I've been waiting for a team like this for 20+ years...

It’s sports man, but feel the same. You’re gambling with your hope and mood lol.

I know I'm not suicidal or anything haha. Just exaggerating to make a point. When you're so emotionally invested in something for so long and it gets taken away in 30 secs it's tough. That's literally what happened. I hope they just close it out tomorrow bc if it goes to a game 7.... I don't have much confidence even tho it's at home. How many times roughly has a team blown a 3-1 lead?

About 7% of the time

[BadNewsBarnes]

But us losing like that IS so Knicks...

[Clyde_Style]

It’s sports man, but feel the same. You’re gambling with your hope and mood lol.

I know I'm not suicidal or anything haha. Just exaggerating to make a point. When you're so emotionally invested in something for so long and it gets taken away in 30 secs it's tough. That's literally what happened. I hope they just close it out tomorrow bc if it goes to a game 7.... I don't have much confidence even tho it's at home. How many times roughly has a team blown a 3-1 lead?

About 7% of the time

So we have a chance then?

[aq_ua]

LTM report does not make anyone feel any better

True, but it makes it a little better that Sixers fans can't cry about Game 2 at all now.

I like LTM reports. It shows a more unbiased look at the final 2 minutes. Even if the game isn't overturned (and that almost never happens), the league admits ref mistakes. I'm OK with that.

I don't care about Maxey's travel, because, like game 2 - Refs can't call that in the closing minute.

The Knicks blew the game. Thibs blew the game. You've got to take that and move on. The report, while it takes some sting out of it, doesn't change the real culprit of this loss. Dumb mistakes. NY had this game.

It all just feels very Lucy with the football. Here's a material call that impacted the entire outcome of the series, but whoops, doesn't matter. Just feels like that sh*t should be kept to themselves and the league can deal with improving referee training or adding cameras to remove blindspots.

[Jeffrey]

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Two-minute report says Maxey traveled. Doesn’t matter. But imagine they called it? I wouldn’t be slitting my wrists right now.

If you slit your wrist... who is going to shoot FTs?

[Luv those Knicks]

I was going to hold off on posting in this thread till after the series. And I've been holding my breath since the end of game 5. OK, not literally. I can't hold my breath for over a day . . . but you know what I mean. Like I can't breath until it's over.

I HATE the Sixers. Even more than I hate Donald Trump.

There. I said it. I know that's irrational. It's just a game. I'm just a fan. But they suck. They're not even the bad guys in a cool way, like, you know, Hanibal Lector, or even, Michael Jordan. (Come to think of it, Jordan and Hannibal Lector do have a lot in common) . . . but I digress.

The Sixers are more like the zombies in The Walking Dead. Nobody roots for the Zombies, but the truth is, sometimes the Zombies win. It's just how it is.

My Knicks unraveled, and they, as others before them have done, snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, and Maxey made his shots and NY lost a game they should have won and more than one person is to blame for that, but perhaps, Thibs most of all. Thibs is great when he's right. We loved the guy in game 4, but he's not always right. We've all seen him make mistakes before. He's . . . 60/40. I like the guy, but he's not perfect.

So, what now? Where do we stand?

Philly's a good team. They were the 2nd best team in the East when Embiid was healthy and their record backed that up. Though the Knicks - when healthy (OG before the elbow), were right there too, but didn't do it for as long a period. We went into this series undermanned. No Randle means we went in at 80%. . . . OK, 85%.

and 85% of NY vs Philly (and they're banged up too but they're not 85% - they have much more of their team than we have of ours) - tough matchup.

NY goes in, head held high and faces the team that other teams went out of their way to avoid, and missing a key player.

And they win game 1.
They snatch game 2, Philly makes some mistakes, some brilliance at the end, Brunson has a bad game, but NY up 2-0.
Game 3 goes to the bad guys.
Game 4, hehe, Wilt gets jerseyed.
Game 5, . . . look, the game was close. The series has been very close. Games 2, 4 and 5 were all right down to the wire. Even game 1 was kind of close and game 3, the refs really wanted Philly to win game 3.

It's been a war. We've had playoff series wars before, but this one, feels more intense than any I remember.

Remember 91-92, when the Knicks beat the 67 win Bulls at home. Xavier McDaniel bothered Scotty Pippen all series and NY took the series to 7 games. Nobody else took the bulls to 7 games. But, if I was to be honest for a moment (and just a moment), the Bulls were better. Come on, everyone knows that. The Knicks thugged their way to almost winning, but they were never the better team. They just had Oakley at defensive tackle, McDaniel at defensive end and Mason at linebacker.

92-93, NY lost McDaniel because Michael Jordan's agent stepped in, but they add Charles Smith (losing Mark Jackson who we missed more than most people realized, I think), and NY wins 62 games, home court all the way and they go up against Chicago 2-0. . . . . . then they lose the next 4. Bulls were better. I'm sorry, but 92-93 was perhaps closer, but Bulls were better, and one of the games in Chicago went down to a last second no call, and then Charles Smith couldn't make a layup in another game, but . . . up 2-0 - that was their window, but they couldn't close it.

Last year, this Knicks team met the Cavs, who were expected to win, and they made the Cavs look silly. Then they met physical and more composed Heat team, that made it to the finals - last year was a war too. The Heat played hard and Butler was a dagger (like Maxey this year) and the Heat won. Tough series, but I'll say this about it, looking back at last year's playoffs. I feel no regret for watching. NY played hard, they lost, but it was a great series against the Heat.

Now we're facing the Philadelphia Walking dead - going into their home court. Up 3-2 but . . . enemy ground. Zombies everywhere. Can our boys pull out a win in enemy territory?

I didn't say this at the time, but when NY was up 3-1, I knew it wasn't going to be easy. These teams are evenly matched. Any game can go any way and Philly has 2 offensive weapons who can go off at any time, NY has just one. Philly's good, even if they are zombies.

This isn't NY vs Chicago in the early 90s when NY tries to out-thug them.

We have to outsmart Philly. They have more weapons. . . . funny story. I gather Philly ownership held back 5,000 tickets for sale to make some extra money. That's why there were so many Knick fans in attendance in game 4. Did they do the same with game 6? he he. Probably. I'm guessing many Knick fans will be in attendance, unless they made all the tickets available to fans after the fiasco in game four.

But I digress. This is a tough series. Maybe, the most brutal playoff series I remember watching in a long time. And if they lose, maybe the toughest loss to watch since they lost to the Rockets in the finals, so, I hope they don't lose.

But the good guys are still up 3 games to 2, facing the zombies for game 6 in the Walking Dead Arena. They can still pull off a miracle, and a win would, somehow, feel like a miracle. I can't explain that, but it would.

Go good guys!!! Go Knicks. Outsmart the sonofabitches.

[joec32033]

LTM report does not make anyone feel any better

True, but it makes it a little better that Sixers fans can't cry about Game 2 at all now.

I like LTM reports. It shows a more unbiased look at the final 2 minutes. Even if the game isn't overturned (and that almost never happens), the league admits ref mistakes. I'm OK with that.

I don't care about Maxey's travel, because, like game 2 - Refs can't call that in the closing minute.

The Knicks blew the game. Thibs blew the game. You've got to take that and move on. The report, while it takes some sting out of it, doesn't change the real culprit of this loss. Dumb mistakes. NY had this game.

Agree with bolded. The big issue I have is with the actual Foul on Mitch on that 4 point play. I posted this elsewhere, and will repost it here because I can't think of any different ways to word it.

I truly hate this play. Not only this singular play in particular, but this type of foul call in general. The player who inititiates illegal contact should get the foul called on them. Jumping into a defender in non-regular basketball motion should be an offensive foul. Last game Lowery initiated illegal contact by intentionally stepping/tripping on Brunson laying on his back and it was a foul on Brunson. Brunson laid down flat and had his arms crossed. That's an offensive foul IMO.

Section IV—Fouls

a. A common personal foul is illegal physical contact which occurs with an opponent
after the ball has become live and before the horn sounds to end the period. If time expires
before the personal foul occurs, the personal foul should be disregarded, unless it was

EXCEPTION: If the foul is committed on or by a player in the act of shooting, and the
shooter released the ball prior to the expiration of time on the game clock, then the foul
should be administered in the same manner as with any similar play during the course of the
game (See Rule 13—Section II—b—ii).

b. A technical foul is the penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct or violations by team
members on the floor or seated on the bench.
c. A double foul is a situation in which any two opponents commit personal fouls at
approximately the same time.
d. An offensive foul is illegal contact, committed by an offensive player, after the ball
is live and there is team control.
e. A loose ball foul is illegal contact, after the ball is alive, when team control does
not exist.
f. A flagrant foul is unnecessary and/or excessive contact committed by a player against
an opponent whether the ball is dead or alive.
g. A punching foul is a punch by a player which makes contact with an opponent
whether the ball is dead or alive.
h. An away-from-the-play foul is illegal contact by the defense (1) in the last two
minutes of each period, and last two minutes of any overtime periods, which occurs deliberately
away from the immediate area of offensive action, or (2) prior to the ball being released on a
throw-in at any point during the entire game.

Getting someone up and making a normal basketball motion (like on a layup) I get. This James Harden chuck a shot and jump into the defender with a non basketball motion shot **** kills me.

And I don't want to be a bitch here. I tip my cap to Philly. The Knicks had chances to win and served up opportunity after opportunity to Philly for them to capitalize. Maxey is a BAD man. He is going to be a problem. Oubre and (ironically) Harris kept Philly in the game in the first half. The respect stops there. Nurse acts like a clown (but is a decent enough coach) and Joel Embitch...er...Embiid is a generational talent skill wise (but this series is showing a side of him I have never seen before). He is that good. He doesn't need to pull this dirty ****.

[Luv those Knicks]

True, but it makes it a little better that Sixers fans can't cry about Game 2 at all now.

I like LTM reports. It shows a more unbiased look at the final 2 minutes. Even if the game isn't overturned (and that almost never happens), the league admits ref mistakes. I'm OK with that.

I don't care about Maxey's travel, because, like game 2 - Refs can't call that in the closing minute.

The Knicks blew the game. Thibs blew the game. You've got to take that and move on. The report, while it takes some sting out of it, doesn't change the real culprit of this loss. Dumb mistakes. NY had this game.

It all just feels very Lucy with the football. Here's a material call that impacted the entire outcome of the series, but whoops, doesn't matter. Just feels like that sh*t should be kept to themselves and the league can deal with improving referee training or adding cameras to remove blindspots.

I understand what you're saying, but I still like it. It would be worse if they started over-turning games based on the reports, because that would be a can of worms down a rabbit hole that nobody would want to go down. The game is over, this team won, but . . . maybe they didn't. That would be a mess.

So, to the team that lost, they can point out what was missed. To me, that's a comfort. It's at least, if nothing else, an admission that if the refs had seen it, it might have gone down differently. If a team doesn't want to be embarrassed by a 2 minute report - win by double digits, so it's not an issue. Close games are often decided by refing and it's always been that way, so, to my thinking, we may as well be honest about it.

anyway - I'm not trying to convince you because your point is valid too and we can have different takes. I just happen to like the LTM reports.

And the refs and everyone knows Maxey is a traveler now. He might have to play more carefully in game 6. Just as Embiid had to tone it down after his flagrant 2 (I mean 1) on Mitch.

[Luv those Knicks]

Agree with bolded. The big issue I have is with the actual Foul on Mitch on that 4 point play. I posted this elsewhere, and will repost it here because I can't think of any different ways to word it.

I truly hate this play. Not only this singular play in particular, but this type of foul call in general. The player who inititiates illegal contact should get the foul called on them. Jumping into a defender in non-regular basketball motion should be an offensive foul. Last game Lowery initiated illegal contact by intentionally stepping/tripping on Brunson laying on his back and it was a foul on Brunson. Brunson laid down flat and had his arms crossed. That's an offensive foul IMO.

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Getting someone up and making a normal basketball motion (like on a layup) I get. This James Harden chuck a shot and jump into the defender with a non basketball motion shot **** kills me.

And I don't want to be a bitch here. I tip my cap to Philly. The Knicks had chances to win and served up opportunity after opportunity to Philly for them to capitalize. Maxey is a BAD man. He is going to be a problem. Oubre and (ironically) Harris kept Philly in the game in the first half. The respect stops there. Nurse acts like a clown (but is a decent enough coach) and Joel Embitch...er...Embiid is a generational talent skill wise (but this series is showing a side of him I have never seen before). He is that good. He doesn't need to pull this dirty ****.

I removed some of the quotes to make it more concise, but just wanted to say - great post.

The refs have a tough job, so . . . they're going to miss a few. Still, I agree 100% with everything you said.

[Capn'O]

I HATE the Sixers. Even more than I hate Donald Trump.

That's intense

Embiid is a player I will always root against after this series, regardless of the outcome. I can't remember such a dirty player and this will always outweigh anything positive he does. Then, beyond that, he's a whiny little flopburger. His skillset should make him one of my favorite non Knicks but everything about him just screams "**** this guy." I bet he smells like BO too. He's my new least favorite player. Below Hardaway. Below Reggie. It's this guy.

Nurse has a very punchable face. Oubre is a bit arrogant. Lowry is also dirty and conniving.

Otherwise, I don't have such strong feelings about the team. Honestly, I like Maxey. He has chutzpah.