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Re: FWIW: Warriors announcer on radio talking trade
Posted: Fri Nov 7, 2008 9:16 pm
by NoLayupRule
blueNorange wrote:NoLayupRule wrote:no way lee is involved in that crap deal IMO. there is no way we give up that much potential for Harrington who is just not worth it at all!!!
what potential??
lee is a backup.
saying it doesnt make it true.
there is a reason every team wants lee. hes a backup on a championship team or a starter on a good one.
hes smart, improves every season, is a great teammate and is one of the top rebounders per min in the league.
He runs or plays half court. He passes, sets great screens, shoots great FT%, hustles every game and isnt an injury risk.
yeah, what potential?
Re: FWIW: Warriors announcer on radio talking trade
Posted: Fri Nov 7, 2008 9:19 pm
by EricAnderson
people need to understand when we make these trades its to get rid of our garbage and were gonna have to give back our only few assets (lee) to get rid of that garbage.. were not gonna get equal talent in return were doign it to get rid of these bums..
our goal has to be to evnetually under the cap for at least a shot at a superstar because thats how u win in this league..
we do not have any special players on this team at all..if we have to trad othem if it means unloading a awful contract we must do it
Re: FWIW: Warriors announcer on radio talking trade
Posted: Fri Nov 7, 2008 9:22 pm
by blueNorange
NoLayupRule wrote:saying it doesnt make it true.
sure it does ... he's to small to play center, he's to weak to play power foward, and he's to slow to play small foward.
NoLayupRule wrote:there is a reason every team wants lee. hes a backup on a championship team or a starter on a good one.
of course every team would want him, he's basically the only guy other teams would want from the knicks because he has no red flags on him.
lee is a starter on a bad team, a good role player on a good/great team.
NoLayupRule wrote:hes smart, improves every season, is a great teammate and is one of the top rebounders per min in the league.
so??
he's still not a starter, evans is most likely the best rebounder in the game ... he's still a role player.
NoLayupRule wrote:He runs or plays half court. He passes, sets great screens, shoots great FT%, hustles every game and isnt an injury risk.
okay ... i'm still not seeing why he's worth a draft pick
NoLayupRule wrote:yeah, what potential?
he has potential to be a good player off the bench.
Re: FWIW: Warriors announcer on radio talking trade
Posted: Fri Nov 7, 2008 9:26 pm
by NoLayupRule
EricAnderson wrote:people need to understand when we make these trades its to get rid of our garbage and were gonna have to give back our only few assets (lee) to get rid of that garbage.. were not gonna get equal talent in return were doign it to get rid of these bums..
our goal has to be to evnetually under the cap for at least a shot at a superstar because thats how u win in this league..
we do not have any special players on this team at all..if we have to trad othem if it means unloading a awful contract we must do it
Incorrect.
every year as many teams add major talent at the trade deadline as do in free agency. perhaps more.
How did LA get Pau? By giving up a ton of talent? no. By giving up cap relief.
We have Marbury and Rose coming off the books this summer. Either can be packaged with a player like Curry to sweeten the deal
SA wants curry? Send Curry and Rose and take back Bonner and Thomas.
GSW wants Lee for harrington? Too bad. They are the ones desperate to resolve their situation. We are rebuilding.
Cha wants Felton and Wallace gone. So get them involved to sweeten the GS deal.
Its time to stop being desperate NY fans. Time to stop moving our young guys as soon as we can, as soon as they are good.
We have years to resolve the salary situation before LBJ and Bosh are available. No knee jerk reactions
Re: FWIW: Warriors announcer on radio talking trade
Posted: Fri Nov 7, 2008 9:27 pm
by rrosario35
What the heck is it... A week ag you guys would have traded Curry for a bag of beanstalk beans... Today trading him & lee is too high a price if Belineleielie or a draft pick arent included... make up your minds.
Re: FWIW: Warriors announcer on radio talking trade
Posted: Fri Nov 7, 2008 9:27 pm
by towelie
We're giving up our best asset AND our worst piece in the same trade. I think some of us are underestimating just how unmovable Curry will be. He's going to have to be packaged with one of your youngs to get a deal done.
However, I think we can weasel a draft pick or a young player as well if we're giving up our best young asset in Lee. Bellinelli or a protected draft pick from either Charlotte or Golden State would be ideal.
Re: FWIW: Warriors announcer on radio talking trade
Posted: Fri Nov 7, 2008 9:29 pm
by Paeds
Sure it does ... he's to small to play center, he's to weak to play power foward, and he's to slow to play small foward.
wrong, weak players dont average double digit rebounds, especically off the bench
he has potential to be a good player off the bench.
Wrong again, he is ALREADY a very good player off the bench
Re: FWIW: Warriors announcer on radio talking trade
Posted: Fri Nov 7, 2008 9:34 pm
by NetsForce
I feel like Belinelli is a poor man's Gallinari though... I guess he'd be a decent throw in though, I could see the Warriors throwing in Marcus Williams but I doubt the Knicks have much of a need for him since they're committed to Duhon, Robinson has played well as a backup, and Marbury is eventually going to move back into the starting lineup anyway.
Re: FWIW: Warriors announcer on radio talking trade
Posted: Fri Nov 7, 2008 9:40 pm
by AirPaden
If Lee and Curry gets traded and all we get back is A Harrington, it will still be a good deal. I have a feeling the open roster spot will go to Patrick Ewing Jr. I would love to see Bellinelli in the deal, however you still have to make the deal.
Who knows, perhaps we can pry Monta Ellis away from Golden State. Monta is Starks with a better offensive game.
Re: FWIW: Warriors announcer on radio talking trade
Posted: Fri Nov 7, 2008 9:41 pm
by TheBluest
Would Harrington an experienced vet get playing time to go along with our rebuilding plan or would he go to the bench immediately to keep Marbury company while Malik ogs up more minutes?
Re: FWIW: Warriors announcer on radio talking trade
Posted: Fri Nov 7, 2008 9:41 pm
by EricAnderson
NoLayupRule wrote:EricAnderson wrote:people need to understand when we make these trades its to get rid of our garbage and were gonna have to give back our only few assets (lee) to get rid of that garbage.. were not gonna get equal talent in return were doign it to get rid of these bums..
our goal has to be to evnetually under the cap for at least a shot at a superstar because thats how u win in this league..
we do not have any special players on this team at all..if we have to trad othem if it means unloading a awful contract we must do it
every year as many teams add major talent at the trade deadline as do in free agency. perhaps more.-every year?..you must have a short memory last years deadline was busy as ever but usually the deadlien si very very quiet
How did LA get Pau? By giving up a ton of talent? no. By giving up cap relief.-that was a fleecing and something we probably wont see again because fo the critcism memphis recieved
We have Marbury and Rose coming off the books this summer. Either can be packaged with a player like Curry to sweeten the deal
Its time to stop being desperate NY fans. Time to stop moving our young guys as soon as we can, as soon as they are good.-if its for a greater good then we should do it..none of these young guys are anyhtign special that u build around there role players which are found at the end of every draft
Re: FWIW: Warriors announcer on radio talking trade
Posted: Fri Nov 7, 2008 9:42 pm
by magee
Wallace will be used as a PF and SF. Line-ups will probably look like this:
Nelson/Maggette/Jackson/Wallace/Biedrins
Bring Wright off the bench for Nelson and Wallace slides to the 3.
Re: FWIW: Warriors announcer on radio talking trade
Posted: Fri Nov 7, 2008 9:44 pm
by TheBluest
AirPaden wrote:If Lee and Curry gets traded and all we get back is A Harrington, it will still be a good deal. I have a feeling the open roster spot will go to Patrick Ewing Jr. I would love to see Bellinelli in the deal, however you still have to make the deal.
Who knows, perhaps we can pry Monta Ellis away from Golden State. Monta is Starks with a better offensive game.
Monta is not Starks he plays very little if any defense but his offensive hame is more polished.
Re: FWIW: Warriors announcer on radio talking trade
Posted: Fri Nov 7, 2008 9:45 pm
by ctorres
If the Knicks get rid of Curry, then there is the possibility the Knicks could find a way to be under the cap for the summer of 2010 and still keep Randolph in the process.
Yes!
Re: FWIW: Warriors announcer on radio talking trade
Posted: Fri Nov 7, 2008 9:46 pm
by blueNorange
TheBluest wrote:Would Harrington an experienced vet get playing time to go along with our rebuilding plan or would he go to the bench immediately to keep Marbury company while Malik ogs up more minutes?
harrington would get lee's minutes, you have to play him.
i hope this happens ... curry not in a knick uniform would be sweet.
Re: FWIW: Warriors announcer on radio talking trade
Posted: Fri Nov 7, 2008 9:46 pm
by NW
More fuel for the fire.
Harrington has been scratched from tonight's lineup with "back problems"
Re: FWIW: Warriors announcer on radio talking trade
Posted: Fri Nov 7, 2008 9:46 pm
by Big Chan
I wouldnt mind a lineup next year of
Jennings or Rubio Or Derozan
Belinelli (plays PG if we get Derozan?)
Chandler
Gallo
?
Re: FWIW: Warriors announcer on radio talking trade
Posted: Fri Nov 7, 2008 9:48 pm
by Sid the Squid
Re: FWIW: Warriors announcer on radio talking trade
Posted: Fri Nov 7, 2008 9:50 pm
by blueNorange
Big Chan wrote:I wouldnt mind a lineup next year of
Jennings or Rubio Or Derozan
Belinelli (plays PG if we get Derozan?)
Chandler
Gallo
?
what's with everyone's idea thinking chandler is a small foward??
he's a power foward and should be the starting power foward.
Re: FWIW: Warriors announcer on radio talking trade
Posted: Fri Nov 7, 2008 9:56 pm
by TrueWarrior
Chandler can be a power forward in Mike Ds system. We just need a taller center to play alongside him. If Gallo starts at the 3 though he would make up for Chandlers lack of size at the 4 a little bit too.