No to Brad Miller... then how about SHAQ?

[Luv those Knicks]

Hmm, Marbury for Shaq straight up?

That's the idea that seems most probable. Phoenix saves 20 million. NY spends 40 million due to the luxury tax, but they get teh Shaqasaurus, and instant respect, AND, possibly Shaq at 1 million per season in 2010-2011.

No picks need be exchanged and both sides win, provided phoenix wants to call the shaq trade a mistake and move on.

[Luv those Knicks]

Phoenix would want expirings that were less than Shaq's salary, so I don't think Marbury would work, but if you guys can find a way to make it work, then by all means take the Shaqtus.

In theory, Marbs would accept a buyout at a million under, maybe a little more and that would bring it closer to equal for 2009. NY also has an open roster spot so if phoenix wants to toss in a player with a small salary, it could be Marbs for Shaq plus throw in to even out the salaries for 08/09.

[4PointPlay]

What kind of team would the Suns have then though? Ick.

The players they get from the Amare deal would play big min which isnt that bad because most of them would be young and the Suns would clearly be in rebuilding mode....

I would assume they'd be trading Shaq for 2 reasons. Cap relief, and to make Amare "the man" on offense again. I doubt they'd trade both.

[drj]

I don't see the point to such a short term move.
Now if it was Shaq + Barbosa for Marbury + Curry, then I'd see a point...

[4PointPlay]

I don't see the point to such a short term move.
Now if it was Shaq + Barbosa for Marbury + Curry, then I'd see a point...

Even Kerr wouldn't do that, Barbosa for Curry? Come on man.

[NoLayupRule]

how psyched would everyone be if we could move Marbruy and get shaq back. Lolz!!!

[kane2021]

I love this time of year! The wiretap states he would welcome a deal here. If shaq steps to phx and says he want to come here, then its got to get done. Seems like he was traded there (phx) under the radar. And we have the goods to provide instant cap relief to them. Besides we got marbury from them with penny, that gave them the money for nash. So there is a history of dealings there. Its been so hard as a knick fan last few years. And I dont like shaq. But seeing him put on a show this weekend was great. And this man, love him or hate him, demands respect. For himself and his team. Maybe wishful thinking. But if phx wants to dump salary fast, we can do that again for them.

[BasicBall]

how psyched would everyone be if we could move Marbruy and get shaq back. Lolz!!!

That would be GREAT! And on top of that, maybe, just maybe Shaq can get through to Eddy Curry! Maybe actually get him to work out!

Damn I will say this, D'Antoni damn sure has changed the image of this team. Folks actually are considering this as a destination....That in itself is a major accomplishment

[passthedutchman]

Phoenix would want expirings that were less than Shaq's salary, so I don't think Marbury would work, but if you guys can find a way to make it work, then by all means take the Shaqtus.

marbury's salary is actually a little less than shaq's this year, $20.8 million compared to $21 million and then you'd also be shedding a full extra year at $21 million. are they trying to shed enough to get under the luxury tax? I think you'd have to lose about $4-5 million to do that (you're currently around $75-6 million and the tax threshold is about $71.1).

malik, q and roberson works salary wise in the trade checker. saves you $4 million this year which would place you close to getting under the cap, so the total amount saved this year would be $8 million if you count the amount of luxury tax you'd have to pay. you'd also have q's $8.7 million on the books next year but counting the savings this year, you might be able to consider that a wash. I think the only other type of deal that would save more money than this or marbury's would be a straight $17 million expiring.

[ezmoney707]

I think Shaq would definitely help. The man does not lose nor does he like to lose. That's something we have to have in the locker room. We know Shaq is a good leader and we need somebody that will light a fire under some our players a$$ when they f'up.

[Esq-4]

plus if Marbles was bought out then that would go all that much closer to getting below the tax this season. He should want to try and sign w/ a team to play in the playoffs so the clock is ticking for him on this season.

[sol537]

I made a threat about this a few days ago and some guys said it was stupid. No you're stupid, stupid. Now here's my proposal:

NY Trades: Marbury, Jeffries, and Nate (or Lee)
PHX Trades: Shaq, Barbosa, and Hill

I think we're one of the only teams willing to take on Shaq and give PHX the savings they're looking for and still give them a nice young prospect so Amare and Nash can get back to business.

[nyk2423]

Do you think both sides would do a Marbury, Harrington, Jeffries, Malik, and Nate for Shaq, Jrich, Hill, Tucker, and Amundson??? Me personally as a Knick fan would jump all over that because we get a player in Hill that can really teach Wilson some things, Jrich's value would sky rocket under this system, Shaq is a dominating forced down low that will bring the right attitude towards our locker room. And Amundson and Tucker are just fillers that, even though Amundsom is a pretty nice role player but shouldnt play more than 15-20mpg. The only problem coming our way is that we lose a back up pg even though I think Hill can play point forward for 10mpg.

Duhon
Jrich
Chandler
Lee
Shaq

with Hill,Gallo, and Timmy being the main men off the bench. Again, I notice we wouldnt have a back up pg but Hill can play point forward for 13mpg IMO.But would they??? I am not sure....

[klemen4]

Rose, Jeffries, Thomas works

They save only 1,3 mio this year and 7,1 mio next year

Rose, harrington works

They save 4,1 mio this year and 10 mio next year

This idea looks so crazy it could work...if phoenix decides to go with amare and run and gun...

[JackKnife2ooo]

Shaq would OWN new york media. Period.

The NY post wouldn't know what hit them. He could get Marc Berman fired in a week.

[StarH2O]

I love shaq and his comedy. Bring him to NY.

Maybe he can teach Curry something besides eating.

[bkknicks19]

I don't understand why ppl would like to rely more on the old legs of the center of the past rather than continuing with younger players who actually fit in the current system? I like shaq but he doesn't fit in this system and if he came here, our offense would pretty much instantly be changed to accomodate him. We are a speedball team and shaq can't run... I would rather take a mediocre center who can run and play some defense in a package that might land us players that can help on more then one front then to take shaq and get nothing else. Malik rose is one our most valuable trade assests and can be packaged with a few other pieces to get players that would be improvements over our current roster without damaging 2010, keeping us competitve and in the hunt for the playoffs this season and become valuable trade assests in the coming seasons. Brad Miller is not our center of the future but he is leaps and bounds better than jared jeffries or eddy curry and plays bettr defense then david lee. Thats an Improvement and we are still able to run with him on the floor. If the knicks can get a player like salmons included in the package by dumping rose and 1 or two other pieces, the knicks instantly improve defensively, retain their offensive punch and stay relatively young. Even if you don't want miller, there are a few other centers out there the knicks should try to get before going after shaq.

[TdoubleE]

Like any other deal, you only do this if Jeffries or Curry is moved. And since Kerr hates Curry, it would have to be Jeffries.

I do have to admit, Shaq in NY for a year would be insane.

[cgmw]

Shaq would OWN new york media. Period.

The NY post wouldn't know what hit them. He could get Marc Berman fired in a week.

Exactly right. You almost have to wonder if the spectacle of Shaq in MSG wouldn't pay for itself in increased ticket sales, merchandise and marketing. If the youth develops, don't underestimate Shaq's ability to lure a top-flight free agent in 2010. I could see him taking the vet's minimum for one year in order to team up with a Lebron or re-up with D-Wade for a championship run in his final season as a pro.

It makes sense.

[kane2021]

Shaq would OWN new york media. Period.

The NY post wouldn't know what hit them. He could get Marc Berman fired in a week.

Exactly right. You almost have to wonder if the spectacle of Shaq in MSG wouldn't pay for itself in increased ticket sales, merchandise and marketing. If the youth develops, don't underestimate Shaq's ability to lure a top-flight free agent in 2010. I could see him taking the vet's minimum for one year in order to team up with a Lebron or re-up with D-Wade for a championship run in his final season as a pro.

It makes sense.

Did you see the way he handled craigs question about terry porter sunday night? As I said earlier. Love him or hate him he demands respect. And he is a presence in more ways then one. Its not all about making us better right now. Its about repairing the laughing stock this great franchise has become. To set a example for players, fans, and management. Really, it would be a great move just to begin to restore respect here. And if we are talking marbury for shaq, how could we say no?