Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread II

[KillMonger]

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[eyriq]

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[cedric76]

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The guy had few games where he truly asserted himself.... and in these 2 he looked pretty darn good. If all he does is develop excellent defense, be a capable 3pnt shooter from the corner, run in transition , and make the right connective plays.... he will be great WINNING player.Pretty much can give us better gary harris.... but 3-4 inches taller at 20 yo.

I think people are judge WAY too quickly since they look at the leashed version and assume there is nothing more. I would NOT be surprised if he is playing meaningful/serious minutes next season

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Most people on this board are too impatient, they were calling suggs a bust last season and now they r calling him a core player

And now they r doing the same mistake , they ll never learn

[eyriq]

As a group of completely unbiased NBA fans … What ya got?

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1. Wemby (best rookie season in a minute)
2. Paolo (Too big, too strong, too skilled)
3. Ant (Second coming)
4. Zion (Top ten potential)
5. Cade (Ain't happening)

[pepe1991]

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1. Wemby (best rookie season in a minute)
2. Paolo (Too big, too strong, too skilled)
3. Ant (Second coming)
4. Zion (Top ten potential)
5. Cade (Ain't happening)

Really?

Ant current playoff performances are better than any Kobe playoff performances ever. His impact numbers put him in category of 1995 Jordan and 2013 Lebron. But he is actually more efficient than both.
He is doing so while playing against best nba team, against best basketball player on the Eart, and outplayed him at least twice in 4 games ( probably 3/4 times).

You wanna know how impactful Ant is today? He has higher BPM than Shaq ever had in his career in playoffs. Ditto to Curry, Durant, Harden...
Tiim Duncan and Hakeem only once had BPM as high as Edwards current one ( or higher) in their 20+ yeras old careers.

In what world Edwards isn't top 10 player today ? Who you taking over him ? It's hard to name 5 players better than him today, let alone 9.

And we talk about guy who is 22 years old, so even not in his early mid 20s peak.



I can understand why somebody would rank Victor over him, due impossiblly high potential, but aside from Victor, come on, it's not even a conversation.
btw Zion is way more impactful than Banchero, but his health will always hold him back, or until he goes back to normal basketball playing weight.

[p0peye]

As a group of completely unbiased NBA fans … What ya got?

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1. Wemby (best rookie season in a minute)
2. Paolo (Too big, too strong, too skilled)
3. Ant (Second coming)
4. Zion (Top ten potential)
5. Cade (Ain't happening)

Really?

Ant current playoff performances are better than any Kobe playoff performances ever. His impact numbers put him in category of 1995 Jordan and 2013 Lebron. But he is actually more efficient than both.
He is doing so while playing against best nba team, against best basketball player on the Eart, and outplayed him at least twice in 4 games ( probably 3/4 times).

You wanna know how impactful Ant is today? He has higher BPM than Shaq ever had in his career in playoffs. Ditto to Curry, Durant, Harden...
Tiim Duncan and Hakeem only once had BPM as high as Edwards current one ( or higher) in their 20+ yeras old careers.

In what world Edwards isn't top 10 player today ? Who you taking over him ? It's hard to name 5 players better than him today, let alone 9.

And we talk about guy who is 22 years old, so even not in his early mid 20s peak.



I can understand why somebody would rank Victor over him, due impossiblly high potential, but aside from Victor, come on, it's not even a conversation.
btw Zion is way more impactful than Banchero, but his health will always hold him back, or until he goes back to normal basketball playing weight.

Eyriq's shtick this offseason is propping up our young talent, no matter what actual data (or lack thereof) imply.

It's hard not to put Wemby and Ant at first two spots (change order depending on personal taste) and I have Paolo at 3rd simply because I have put Zion into Eddy Curry category. Cade is 5th.

[eyriq]

Eyriq's shtick this offseason is propping up our young talent, no matter what actual data (or lack thereof) imply.

That is accurate, though I legit think that Paolo and Ant are similar prospects and would take Paolo over Ant.

[RookieStar]

Eyriq's shtick this offseason is propping up our young talent, no matter what actual data (or lack thereof) imply.

That is accurate, though I legit think that Paolo and Ant are similar prospects and would take Paolo over Ant.

In this era i too would take Paolo.. its the time of the big forwards who does it all.

However if this was 15-20 yrs ago where atheltic shooting guards rule even at just 6'4, then Ant is my pick.

Then again, you compare Ants marketability over Paolo, Ant does have the advantage for now.

[pepe1991]

Eyriq's shtick this offseason is propping up our young talent, no matter what actual data (or lack thereof) imply.

That is accurate, though I legit think that Paolo and Ant are similar prospects and would take Paolo over Ant.

In this era i too would take Paolo.. its the time of the big forwards who does it all.

However if this was 15-20 yrs ago where atheltic shooting guards rule even at just 6'4, then Ant is my pick.

Then again, you compare Ants marketability over Paolo, Ant does have the advantage for now.

What execlly on court, Paolo does better than Edwards?

[pinoynurse]

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The guy had few games where he truly asserted himself.... and in these 2 he looked pretty darn good.[b]If all he does is develop excellent defense, be a capable 3pnt shooter from the corner, run in transition , and make the right connective plays.... he will be great WINNING player. [/b ] Pretty much can give us better gary harris.... but 3-4 inches taller at 20 yo.

I think people are judge WAY too quickly since they look at the leashed version and assume there is nothing more. I would NOT be surprised if he is playing meaningful/serious minutes next season

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Most people on this board are too impatient, they were calling suggs a bust last season and now they r calling him a core player

And now they r doing the same mistake , they ll never learn

Pretty much agree with the Bold. If he develops into the pg i dream of that would be great but if he becomes an elite swiss army knife role player im fine with that too

Also E, love your um….confidence in paolo but edwards is doing some AMAZING things this year

[p0peye]

Eyriq's shtick this offseason is propping up our young talent, no matter what actual data (or lack thereof) imply.

That is accurate, though I legit think that Paolo and Ant are similar prospects and would take Paolo over Ant.

I think it's unfair to compare them yet, as at this point Ant has had 2x more of development in NBA compared to Paolo. But, I will say this: Paolo has a lot of ground to cover to match up Ant's status and trajectory. We are talking about All-NBA and MVP-conversation level performance.

If I had data suggesting that is where Paolo will be in 2026, I would be popping the champagne right now and gunning for Weltpark to be fired if we don't have another All Star/All NBA guy next to Paolo next season.

[Skybox]

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The guy had few games where he truly asserted himself.... and in these 2 he looked pretty darn good. If all he does is develop excellent defense, be a capable 3pnt shooter from the corner, run in transition , and make the right connective plays.... he will be great WINNING player.Pretty much can give us better gary harris.... but 3-4 inches taller at 20 yo.

I think people are judge WAY too quickly since they look at the leashed version and assume there is nothing more. I would NOT be surprised if he is playing meaningful/serious minutes next season

Watch on YouTube

Most people on this board are too impatient, they were calling suggs a bust last season and now they r calling him a core player

And now they r doing the same mistake , they ll never learn

Those two games really were great.

[RookieStar]

That is accurate, though I legit think that Paolo and Ant are similar prospects and would take Paolo over Ant.

In this era i too would take Paolo.. its the time of the big forwards who does it all.

However if this was 15-20 yrs ago where atheltic shooting guards rule even at just 6'4, then Ant is my pick.

Then again, you compare Ants marketability over Paolo, Ant does have the advantage for now.

What execlly on court, Paolo does better than Edwards?

Kinda unfair to compare a 2nd year guy to a 4th or 5th year vet in terms of production right now

But as of now? Being big and a mismatch to any defenders.

[Residual-Heat]

In this era i too would take Paolo.. its the time of the big forwards who does it all.

However if this was 15-20 yrs ago where atheltic shooting guards rule even at just 6'4, then Ant is my pick.

Then again, you compare Ants marketability over Paolo, Ant does have the advantage for now.

What execlly on court, Paolo does better than Edwards?

Kinda unfair to compare a 2nd year guy to a 4th or 5th year vet in terms of production right now

But as of now? Being big and a mismatch to any defenders.

He's arguably a better passer already. Paolo 5.4 assists, 3.1 turnovers in his second year, Ant 3.8 assists 2.6 Tov in year 2 and 5.1 apg and 3.1 tov this year.

[three3d]

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The guy had few games where he truly asserted himself.... and in these 2 he looked pretty darn good. If all he does is develop excellent defense, be a capable 3pnt shooter from the corner, run in transition , and make the right connective plays.... he will be great WINNING player.Pretty much can give us better gary harris.... but 3-4 inches taller at 20 yo.

I think people are judge WAY too quickly since they look at the leashed version and assume there is nothing more. I would NOT be surprised if he is playing meaningful/serious minutes next season

Watch on YouTube

Most people on this board are too impatient, they were calling suggs a bust last season and now they r calling him a core player

And now they r doing the same mistake , they ll never learn

Those two games really were great.

It was pretty much right after that Dallas game where AB started racking up DNP’s and to me that was what was so damn frustrating about it all. Can anyone recall exactly what happened around that time that could have caused the benching?

[basketballRob]

Most people on this board are too impatient, they were calling suggs a bust last season and now they r calling him a core player

And now they r doing the same mistake , they ll never learn

Those two games really were great.

It was pretty much right after that Dallas game where AB started racking up DNP’s and to me that was what was so damn frustrating about it all. Can anyone recall exactly what happened around that time that could have caused the benching?

Fultz came back from injury. They also started AB once with Gary Harris, and that experiment failed. I think he needs to be paired with another ballhandler.

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[ORLMagicGirl15]

That is accurate, though I legit think that Paolo and Ant are similar prospects and would take Paolo over Ant.

In this era i too would take Paolo.. its the time of the big forwards who does it all.

However if this was 15-20 yrs ago where atheltic shooting guards rule even at just 6'4, then Ant is my pick.

Then again, you compare Ants marketability over Paolo, Ant does have the advantage for now.

What execlly on court, Paolo does better than Edwards?

If you want to compare year to year, the only thing Ant man got on Paolo offensively was 3 point %. Defensively, he is a better defender in steals but the blocks are about even. But I think he is a better defender than Paolo.

[Residual-Heat]

Better luck next year.

[KillMonger]

when do we find out all-defense?

[ORLMagicGirl15]

when do we find out all-defense?

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