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three3d wrote:

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three3d wrote:
Lol we could potentially start a European war in the locker room with 3 Germans and 1 Italian heritage player. I’m torn on the right fit to be honest. Paolo has the potential to be so great but he has the ball in his hand so much. What’s it going to look like with a true point guard initiating the offense? The offense would really have to change a lot wouldn’t it? Where as a knock down 3 point sniper is going to spread the floor and open up the paint for Paolo and Franz. Is there a point guard out there right now that offers both of those abilities ? Can we redo the draft and take Jordan Hawkins instead of Jet lol? I liked Hawkins and his ability to utilize screens and be a 3 point threat without having the ball in his hand. Time will tell though if Jet can be that, but the pre draft tapes showed Jordan Hawkins already being that.

I’m thinking it’s not a “real PG” in the vein of CP3, Tyus, or even Schroeder (although a guy like that on the bench would be nice when things get sloppy). I’m DEFINITELY not ripping the ball out of Paolo & Franz’ hands…just offering them support and a real 3rd creator option when good teams clamp down on them (which they will more and more)…I’m thinking more like Murray, Monk, Simons.

My redraft would be Cason Wallace more than Hawkins (but I really like Hawkins too). Wallace is a combo guard, fierce defender, makes open 3’s and can handle & distribute “enough” to fill in the gaps…imagine Fultz with some off-ball value. I don’t see ANY shot-hunting or PG play from AB yet, but maybe we get a little more next year…his length, defense, and vibe are great but I don’t see the skill.

Btw, doesn’t Devin Carter smell a lot like Cason?

OKC drafts so damn good, they drafted and lost three HOF players ( Durant,Westbrook, & Russell) and still here they are this year as the #1 seed in the ridiculously tough west. That is the reason I’d love our front office to explore a bit of a business relationship with them. Orlando and OKC are both young teams but on the opposite end of the spectrum and timeline. I’ve said it before but Chet and JI on the same team at the same time, or JI coming off their bench. I’d scratch their back now if they would scratch ours later lol. I’ve seen D. Carters name tied to ours either in this forum or on mock drafts, I need to watch some videos on him.

Skybox wrote:

three3d wrote:

Skybox wrote:
I don’t think I would. Cole’s far from untouchable but Schroeder’s known to be kind of aloof. Cole’s personality is so good that the minor bball upgrade doesn’t justify the potential locker room issues. Idk if Schroeder’s personality suits a minor role…I’d also be concerned about fueling a clique on a really unified team. PG has a lot of say where the ball goes…can’t risk Paolo feeling un-German.

Lol we could potentially start a European war in the locker room with 3 Germans and 1 Italian heritage player. I’m torn on the right fit to be honest. Paolo has the potential to be so great but he has the ball in his hand so much. What’s it going to look like with a true point guard initiating the offense? The offense would really have to change a lot wouldn’t it? Where as a knock down 3 point sniper is going to spread the floor and open up the paint for Paolo and Franz. Is there a point guard out there right now that offers both of those abilities ? Can we redo the draft and take Jordan Hawkins instead of Jet lol? I liked Hawkins and his ability to utilize screens and be a 3 point threat without having the ball in his hand. Time will tell though if Jet can be that, but the pre draft tapes showed Jordan Hawkins already being that.

I’m thinking it’s not a “real PG” in the vein of CP3, Tyus, or even Schroeder (although a guy like that on the bench would be nice when things get sloppy). I’m DEFINITELY not ripping the ball out of Paolo & Franz’ hands…just offering them support and a real 3rd creator option when good teams clamp down on them (which they will more and more)…I’m thinking more like Murray, Monk, Simons.

My redraft would be Cason Wallace more than Hawkins (but I really like Hawkins too). Wallace is a combo guard, fierce defender, makes open 3’s and can handle & distribute “enough” to fill in the gaps…imagine Fultz with some off-ball value. I don’t see ANY shot-hunting or PG play from AB yet, but maybe we get a little more next year…his length, defense, and vibe are great but I don’t see the skill.

Btw, doesn’t Devin Carter smell a lot like Cason?

Residual-Heat wrote:I hated the Black pick at the time as well. Dont hate it at all now. I see the vision with AB-Suggs backcourt. Am i 100% confident it will work? No, but AB wont hit his prime until like 5 years from now. Suggs will continue to improve. We will see.

three3d wrote:

Residual-Heat wrote:I hated the Black pick at the time as well. Dont hate it at all now. I see the vision with AB-Suggs backcourt. Am i 100% confident it will work? No, but AB wont hit his prime until like 5 years from now. Suggs will continue to improve. We will see.

Same here, I don’t hate the pick anymore but he’s so raw and honestly how’s he going to get better on the bench. It’s year one BUT if they do this to him again next season I’ll be worried. I do see natural defensive capabilities as a rookie that makes him a worthy project, and perhaps that’s in fact the same thing the FO seen.

Residual-Heat wrote:

three3d wrote:

Residual-Heat wrote:I hated the Black pick at the time as well. Dont hate it at all now. I see the vision with AB-Suggs backcourt. Am i 100% confident it will work? No, but AB wont hit his prime until like 5 years from now. Suggs will continue to improve. We will see.

Same here, I don’t hate the pick anymore but he’s so raw and honestly how’s he going to get better on the bench. It’s year one BUT if they do this to him again next season I’ll be worried. I do see natural defensive capabilities as a rookie that makes him a worthy project, and perhaps that’s in fact the same thing the FO seen.

Im sure he'll get more playing time next season.

three3d wrote:

Residual-Heat wrote:I hated the Black pick at the time as well. Dont hate it at all now. I see the vision with AB-Suggs backcourt. Am i 100% confident it will work? No, but AB wont hit his prime until like 5 years from now. Suggs will continue to improve. We will see.

Same here, I don’t hate the pick anymore but he’s so raw and honestly how’s he going to get better on the bench. It’s year one BUT if they do this to him again next season I’ll be worried. I do see natural defensive capabilities as a rookie that makes him a worthy project, and perhaps that’s in fact the same thing the FO seen.

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Residual-Heat wrote:

three3d wrote:

Residual-Heat wrote:I hated the Black pick at the time as well. Dont hate it at all now. I see the vision with AB-Suggs backcourt. Am i 100% confident it will work? No, but AB wont hit his prime until like 5 years from now. Suggs will continue to improve. We will see.

Same here, I don’t hate the pick anymore but he’s so raw and honestly how’s he going to get better on the bench. It’s year one BUT if they do this to him again next season I’ll be worried. I do see natural defensive capabilities as a rookie that makes him a worthy project, and perhaps that’s in fact the same thing the FO seen.

Im sure he'll get more playing time next season.

meatwad4343 wrote:I'm hoping those Paul George rumors aren't true, last thing we need is to give a max contract to an aging guy who can't stay on the court

zaymon wrote:

three3d wrote:

Residual-Heat wrote:I hated the Black pick at the time as well. Dont hate it at all now. I see the vision with AB-Suggs backcourt. Am i 100% confident it will work? No, but AB wont hit his prime until like 5 years from now. Suggs will continue to improve. We will see.

Same here, I don’t hate the pick anymore but he’s so raw and honestly how’s he going to get better on the bench. It’s year one BUT if they do this to him again next season I’ll be worried. I do see natural defensive capabilities as a rookie that makes him a worthy project, and perhaps that’s in fact the same thing the FO seen.

I liked Black selection and i still do but i cant see a scenario where they both start. Neither has great handle, neither can run pick and roll, neither is great shooter.

Residual-Heat wrote:

zaymon wrote:

three3d wrote:
Same here, I don’t hate the pick anymore but he’s so raw and honestly how’s he going to get better on the bench. It’s year one BUT if they do this to him again next season I’ll be worried. I do see natural defensive capabilities as a rookie that makes him a worthy project, and perhaps that’s in fact the same thing the FO seen.

I liked Black selection and i still do but i cant see a scenario where they both start. Neither has great handle, neither can run pick and roll, neither is great shooter.

I mean Suggs is developing into a damn good shooter, and Black has made incredible progress in such a short amount of time. We'll see. We're going to see that backcourt again next season. I believe in Black and Suggs' work ethic. As for ball handling, and running the offense, that will mainly be on Franz and Paolo. This means that both of them will have to improve as well.

Like i said, im not 100% convinced, but i see the vision. Where Black steps in as a guard that can be effective without the ball (catch and shoot, set screens, play defense, cuts), but also potentially run the offense a little (while allowing franz and PAolo to be the main ball-handlers), get to the rim. finish in transition. I have a hard time projecting what Black can be right now, as we only saw him in a very limited role, but he's still only 20 years old. He may not be ready next year or ever, but i am saying i think i get what the FO saw when they drafted him.

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