Official Summer 2024 Magic Free Agency and Trade Ideas Thread 5.0

bigdogdylan5 · Post #401 » by **bigdogdylan5** » Mon May 13, 2024 7:52 pm

p0peye wrote:Can we somehow flip our pick + young player for Sheppard?

I just don’t understand wanting to trade assets for a rookie 19 year old. I thought we are trying to accelerate this puppy? A 19 year old traded for is not that.

Like if Black was in this draft would he go top 3? It’s certainly a possibility. The team didn’t think Jett Howard was able to play NBA quality defense and I think Sheppard would be worse.

Post #402 » by **eyriq** » Mon May 13, 2024 7:58 pm

Knightro wrote:

Read on Twitter

If it's just cap space it's really interesting. He played a lot of SG.

cedric76 · Post #403 » by **cedric76** » Mon May 13, 2024 8:06 pm

eyriq wrote:
Knightro wrote:

Read on Twitter
If it's just cap space it's really interesting. He played a lot of SG.

Then what happens next season when he is Free agent? Offering him a big contract would really hurt us

However maybe there is a deal where we could do a 3 teams trade in which he would go to Atlanta, Murray would come here, and assets and cap space to NO

thelead · Post #404 » by **thelead** » Mon May 13, 2024 8:07 pm

Knightro wrote:The Ingles team option decision is going to be such a tell.

If they decline it, they're almost assuredly going to spend significant dollars right after that.

If they pick it up, the odds of a huge money signing drop significantly.

And when is the deadline to decline or pick up his option?

jezzerinho · Post #405 » by **jezzerinho** » Mon May 13, 2024 8:10 pm

Talented but relatively ineffectual, dont you all think? Not that efficient, v high usage guy, not a great outside shooter.

Does move the ball well, which is interesting. But id have thought we were looking for lower usage and higher efficiency rather than the opposite.

bigdogdylan5 · Post #406 » by **bigdogdylan5** » Mon May 13, 2024 8:13 pm

eyriq wrote:
Knightro wrote:

Read on Twitter
If it's just cap space it's really interesting. He played a lot of SG.

Ingram is not a three point threat he shot 35% on less than 4 attempts per game. He would be a terrible fit would be playing someone out of position on defense for overlapping skills

Skybox · Post #407 » by **Skybox** » Mon May 13, 2024 8:15 pm

bigdogdylan5 wrote:
eyriq wrote:
Knightro wrote:

Read on Twitter
If it's just cap space it's really interesting. He played a lot of SG.

Ingram is not a three point threat he shot 35% on less than 4 attempts per game. He would be a terrible fit would be playing someone out of position on defense for overlapping skills

If we're going to end up paying someone like Paul George...I'd prefer it be Paul George. That could become a Zach Lavine deal pretty quick. He's not really exactly what we need...if we're going to spend that much, he should be.

Murray, Monk, Simons, I'm adding Ivey to my short list to explore...Ivey very attractive because he's still on a rookie deal and DET won't demand win-now assets.

Post #408 » by **Knightro** » Mon May 13, 2024 8:32 pm

Ingram has had better 3PT shooting seasons than this past year.

He has multiple seasons of over 38% under his belt. Higher volume ones too.

Skin · Post #409 » by **Skin** » Mon May 13, 2024 8:39 pm

You guys willing to give up Suggs or Franz for Ingram?

basketballRob · Post #410 » by **basketballRob** » Mon May 13, 2024 8:42 pm

There were rumors about New Orleans being interested in Wendell around the trade deadline.

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thelead · Post #411 » by **thelead** » Mon May 13, 2024 8:43 pm

Skin wrote:You guys willing to give up Suggs or Franz for Ingram?

Hell no.

Skin · Post #412 » by **Skin** » Mon May 13, 2024 8:45 pm

thelead wrote:
Skin wrote:You guys willing to give up Suggs or Franz for Ingram?

Hell no.

End of discussion then.

thelead · Post #413 » by **thelead** » Mon May 13, 2024 8:46 pm

Skin wrote:
thelead wrote:
Skin wrote:You guys willing to give up Suggs or Franz for Ingram?

Hell no.

End of discussion then.

I'm good with that. We have a ton of cap space and all of our picks. We must improve the team with that.

Post #414 » by **eyriq** » Mon May 13, 2024 8:47 pm

Skin wrote:You guys willing to give up Suggs or Franz for Ingram?

thelead wrote:Hell no.

^^^^^

Trillen · Post #415 » by **Trillen** » Mon May 13, 2024 9:12 pm

Yeah the only circumstance I'm accepting rolling the dice on Ingram is if Paolo/Franz/Suggs are not involved.

RichCollab · Post #416 » by **RichCollab** » Mon May 13, 2024 9:22 pm

We are going to be linked to almost all big free agents. I bet Weltman has already trimmed it to less than 5.

He can tell us we will keep the secret.

Blue_and_Whte · Post #417 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Mon May 13, 2024 9:32 pm

RichCollab wrote:We are going to be linked to almost all big free agents. I bet Weltman has already trimmed it to less than 5.

He can tell us we will keep the secret.

Which is funny because Orlando never shows their cards. I’m convinced the camps of all these players being linked to us are the ones leaking BS to increase their clients leverage. The Magic are easy because they have cap and are at the point where teams on the verge of being very good start making moves.

thelead · Post #418 » by **thelead** » Mon May 13, 2024 9:44 pm

thelead wrote:
Knightro wrote:The Ingles team option decision is going to be such a tell.

If they decline it, they're almost assuredly going to spend significant dollars right after that.

If they pick it up, the odds of a huge money signing drop significantly.

And when is the deadline to decline or pick up his option?

June 29th appears to be the date most outlets list. I guess they would have a good idea of who's interested and who is not by then.

axl_c_cool · Post #419 » by **axl_c_cool** » Mon May 13, 2024 9:57 pm

Skin wrote:You guys willing to give up Suggs or Franz for Ingram?

No a chance I’d even listen once I hear their name or Banchero unless Doncic, Jokic, or a silly good name of that level starts the conversation off

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Post #420 » by **Knightro** » Mon May 13, 2024 9:57 pm

Skin wrote:
thelead wrote:
Skin wrote:You guys willing to give up Suggs or Franz for Ingram?

Hell no.

End of discussion then.

I will bet the inevitable Ingram trade winds up being a lot less than you think.

Everyone already knows they have to deal him to avoid the tax and he’s going into the final year of his contract.

I suspect the return is going to be a lot lighter than people think.