Official Summer 2024 Magic Free Agency and Trade Ideas Thread 5.0

[RookieStar]

So NOP are said to be shipping out Jonas and Ingram? Are they "reloading" or something?

[RookieStar]

FWIW I really believed those reports that says Ingram is almost 6'11 in shoes. That is a mismatch on his 3 spot. But if he is just 6'8, then no wonder they are dangling him, he is just in the same height as Trey and a little more in Herb.

[sChOlaRlY_Magi]

I did a version of this, but...
ATL sends: Murray, Capela, Hunter
ATL gets: Wendell Carter, Jerami Grant, Malcolm Brogdon, ORL 25 frp

POR sends: Malcolm Brogdon, Jerami Grant
POR gets: Deandre Hunter, Anthony Black, tons of cap relief

ORL sends: Wendell Carter, Anthony Black, ORL 25 frp
ORL gets: Capela, Murray

Capela, M. Wagner, Ware (#18)
Paolo, Isaac
Franz, Houstan
Suggs, Jett
Murray, Cole, vet-Kris Dunn?

*we might even have enough left to keep Jingles, who is really the PG of the second unit and the guy that unlocked Cole's best. We might also taking a big swing at Terrence Shannon at #18(who's built like Anthony Edwards) if he stays out of court.

My guy. 7-9 player trades when it doesn’t involve a star just doesn’t happen ever.

John Gabriel says "hold my beer while I pull up the Google machine for you."

[Skybox]

I did a version of this, but...
ATL sends: Murray, Capela, Hunter
ATL gets: Wendell Carter, Jerami Grant, Malcolm Brogdon, ORL 25 frp

POR sends: Malcolm Brogdon, Jerami Grant
POR gets: Deandre Hunter, Anthony Black, tons of cap relief

ORL sends: Wendell Carter, Anthony Black, ORL 25 frp
ORL gets: Capela, Murray

Capela, M. Wagner, Ware (#18)
Paolo, Isaac
Franz, Houstan
Suggs, Jett
Murray, Cole, vet-Kris Dunn?

*we might even have enough left to keep Jingles, who is really the PG of the second unit and the guy that unlocked Cole's best. We might also taking a big swing at Terrence Shannon at #18(who's built like Anthony Edwards) if he stays out of court.

My guy. 7-9 player trades when it doesn’t involve a star just doesn’t happen ever.

John Gabriel says "hold my beer while I pull up the Google machine for you."

These aren’t wholesale changes…3 teams, no one trading more than 2 players…pump the brakes with absolutes

[MagicMatic]

My guy. 7-9 player trades when it doesn’t involve a star just doesn’t happen ever.

John Gabriel says "hold my beer while I pull up the Google machine for you."

These aren’t wholesale changes…3 teams, no one trading more than 2 players…pump the brakes with absolutes

Murray
Capela
Hunter
Brogdon
Grant
Carter
Black

That’s 7 players. 3 from Atlanta, 2 Portland, 2 Orlando.

Name another similar trade in the last 3 years that involved this many players and didn’t have a top 5-10 player comprised mostly of starters.

If there’s going to be a trade it will be 1 maybe 2 guys max between 2 teams if we aren’t talking about multiple moves on draft day, concerning picks, in separate trades.

[NYG]

Not a fan of either team... but does WCJ and Cole Anthony for CJ McCollum have any legs? Gives the Magic a nice fit that's also an adult in the room for the young guys.

[MagicMatic]

If anyone needs to be moved it’s Carter. Orlando’s FO needs to figure it out.

[eyriq]

Not a fan of either team... but does WCJ and Cole Anthony for CJ McCollum have any legs? Gives the Magic a nice fit that's also an adult in the room for the young guys.

It makes a lot of sense for both teams TBH

[eyriq]

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[drsd]

How about...
ORL sends: Jett Howard (Michigan prospect with promise of much needed floor spacing), DEN 25 frp
DET sends: Jaden Ivey

If the cost to land Ivey would only be Howard and the Denver pick, of course Orlando can agree to that. I think much, much better deals would be found through out the league for Ivey though. Indeed, even Orlando would offer more.

[jezzerinho]

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Moves like this arent going to move the needle enough, imo. Unless hes going to be a bench shooter to give you 18-22 mins.

What you gain in shooting/spacing, you may well lose in defence/playmaking.

We need a scoring guard who can initiate. Doesnt have to be a point guard per se (tho that would help) but needs to be someone who can shoulder initiation responsibility. To me they should be capable of scoring at all 3 levels, even if they may not be great at all 3.

They can be the defensive weak link, but not a sieve that busts open the defensive scheme.

If not totally team first, they should at least not be all about themselves and personal stats and hopefully come from somewhere with PO experience.

Thats my shopping list anyway.

[byeganyo]

Not a fan of either team... but does WCJ and Cole Anthony for CJ McCollum have any legs? Gives the Magic a nice fit that's also an adult in the room for the young guys.

for orlando it should be an instant yes - CJ is 40% 3pt shooter for his career and is a 20ppg scorer in the past 8 seasons. can play pg.
2 more years of his current contract too.

[drsd]

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Thanks!

Super interesting rumor.

[pepe1991]

Not a fan of either team... but does WCJ and Cole Anthony for CJ McCollum have any legs? Gives the Magic a nice fit that's also an adult in the room for the young guys.

for orlando it should be an instant yes - CJ is 40% 3pt shooter for his career and is a 20ppg scorer in the past 8 seasons. can play pg.
2 more years of his current contract too.

Wendell & Zion?
Heaviest C-PF combo in history? Both being undersized , injury prone, chubby players who are average rebounders

[jezzerinho]

Not a fan of either team... but does WCJ and Cole Anthony for CJ McCollum have any legs? Gives the Magic a nice fit that's also an adult in the room for the young guys.

for orlando it should be an instant yes - CJ is 40% 3pt shooter for his career and is a 20ppg scorer in the past 8 seasons. can play pg.
2 more years of his current contract too.

Wendell & Zion?
Heaviest C-PF combo in history? Both being undersized , injury prone, chubby players who are average rebounders

Wendell chubby? Dont think so. Big lad allright. Not too much fat on him tho.

[pepe1991]

for orlando it should be an instant yes - CJ is 40% 3pt shooter for his career and is a 20ppg scorer in the past 8 seasons. can play pg.
2 more years of his current contract too.

Wendell & Zion?
Heaviest C-PF combo in history? Both being undersized , injury prone, chubby players who are average rebounders

Wendell chubby? Dont think so. Big lad allright. Not too much fat on him tho.

he is 6'9 or so, and allegedly 285 pounds. can't have that weight and be all muscles ( well, you can, but you need to pin yourself with whole bunch of stuff )


chubby is wrong word i guess, they are both too heavy for healthy playing .
I played basketball with 270 pounds 6'4 dude last year, it's not like he is not strong and it's not like he can't bounce (guy is genetic freak , crazy strenght, guy is repping 315 pounds bench like it's just bar ) problem is, every time he jumps ,his knees are ready to pop out ( pretty much execlly what happened to him several times). Just too much pressure on joints.

[I Rasharted]

You guys willing to give up Suggs or Franz for Ingram?

Not even I would trade Suggs for Ingram. Fit don't make no sense.

[I Rasharted]

I did a version of this, but...
ATL sends: Murray, Capela, Hunter
ATL gets: Wendell Carter, Jerami Grant, Malcolm Brogdon, ORL 25 frp

POR sends: Malcolm Brogdon, Jerami Grant
POR gets: Deandre Hunter, Anthony Black, tons of cap relief

ORL sends: Wendell Carter, Anthony Black, ORL 25 frp
ORL gets: Capela, Murray

Capela, M. Wagner, Ware (#18)
Paolo, Isaac
Franz, Houstan
Suggs, Jett
Murray, Cole, vet-Kris Dunn?

*we might even have enough left to keep Jingles, who is really the PG of the second unit and the guy that unlocked Cole's best. We might also taking a big swing at Terrence Shannon at #18(who's built like Anthony Edwards) if he stays out of court.

My guy. 7-9 player trades when it doesn’t involve a star just doesn’t happen ever.

John Gabriel says "hold my beer while I pull up the Google machine for you."

[Skybox]

John Gabriel says "hold my beer while I pull up the Google machine for you."

These aren’t wholesale changes…3 teams, no one trading more than 2 players…pump the brakes with absolutes

Murray
Capela
Hunter
Brogdon
Grant
Carter
Black

That’s 7 players. 3 from Atlanta, 2 Portland, 2 Orlando.

Name another similar trade in the last 3 years that involved this many players and didn’t have a top 5-10 player comprised mostly of starters.

If there’s going to be a trade it will be 1 maybe 2 guys max between 2 teams if we aren’t talking about multiple moves on draft day, concerning picks, in separate trades.

Ok…appreciate the veto. You’re doing God’s work on RealGM

[MartinsIzAfraud]

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Moves like this arent going to move the needle enough, imo. Unless hes going to be a bench shooter to give you 18-22 mins.

What you gain in shooting/spacing, you may well lose in defence/playmaking.

We need a scoring guard who can initiate. Doesnt have to be a point guard per se (tho that would help) but needs to be someone who can shoulder initiation responsibility. To me they should be capable of scoring at all 3 levels, even if they may not be great at all 3.

They can be the defensive weak link, but not a sieve that busts open the defensive scheme.

If not totally team first, they should at least not be all about themselves and personal stats and hopefully come from somewhere with PO experience.

Thats my shopping list anyway.

You absolutely grab him as your 2nd FA signing after landing Hartenstein or Claxton. Then trade WCJ/Cole+18 for a guard. Oh man 2K is fun