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2023-2024 Regular Season Game 59: Brooklyn Nets (22-35) at Orlando Magic (32-26) - 7pm

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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 59: Brooklyn Nets (22-35) at Orlando Magic (32-26) - 7pm 

Post#321 » by pepe1991 » Wed Feb 28, 2024 1:04 pm

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THe reality is that Suggs as the "PG" and G-Harris as the SG works. Because shooting efficiencies improves.
This is a shooters' league and teams need flamethrowers more than board-crashers at the guard slots. That's F-Wagner's and Banchero's job.

As an aside, when the Magic get a PG that can run the PnR as 40% of all plays, and not drive to the hoop, added to a SG that can shoot, this team will be special.

So: I for one would love to see Suggs at the PG and not the "PG" to see if he can run the PnR effectively. Management needs to know the answer to this question.


If the FO decides to acquire a SG instead of a true PG this offseason.. Monk could be a great fit next to Suggs


Or Grayson Allen...


Most of normal PGs also can shoot, so i would prefer actual PG.

Gary Harris data is funny but does not really tell whole story, among 7 or 8 wins we had in 9 games, 5 were against teams well below .500 record.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 59: Brooklyn Nets (22-35) at Orlando Magic (32-26) - 7pm 

Post#322 » by Bergmaniac » Wed Feb 28, 2024 1:05 pm

Nice win, but the Nets were so hilariously bad it's hard to be really excited about it. The number of idiotic turnovers they committed was hilarious. 84 ORTG when we didn't have Isaac is just beyond awful. Yes, we defended well, but they made it much easier for us by their dreadful shooting and boneheaded turnovers. Still, nice to see we can be dominant defensively without JI.

Great game by Franz on both ends.

Harris has been really good lately, not just with his improved shooting, but overall.

DiplomaticMagic wrote:Fultz actually looked good today. I didnt notice a big hitch today. If he can get back to his play last year, that would be huge for us the rest of this season

If that's him looking good, the standard for him is appalling low. He scored some baskets inside, but he still didin'tt shoot from outside 12 feet, his overall scoring efficiency was bad and he had 4 turnovers and 1 assist. And that was against a Nets teamwhich was barely trying and a lot of his minutes were after the end result was beyond doubt.

There was one play where he set a screen for Franz and then rolled to the basket, Franz had to attempt a hard pass to get him the ball and it led to a turnover, partly because being a 6'4" roll man is obviously not ideal. This really exemplified for me how absurd playing Fultz with his current lack of outside shot is. Our supposed PG who is 6'4" was the roll man in a pick and roll play where the ballhandler was our 6'10" SF. And that's not an isolated occurence, Fultz is a screener more often than he is the ballhandler in the halfcourt.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 59: Brooklyn Nets (22-35) at Orlando Magic (32-26) - 7pm 

Post#323 » by OrlChamps2030 » Wed Feb 28, 2024 1:26 pm

RookieStar wrote:
OrlChamps2030 wrote:
drsd wrote:
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THe reality is that Suggs as the "PG" and G-Harris as the SG works. Because shooting efficiencies improves.
This is a shooters' league and teams need flamethrowers more than board-crashers at the guard slots. That's F-Wagner's and Banchero's job.

As an aside, when the Magic get a PG that can run the PnR as 40% of all plays, and not drive to the hoop, added to a SG that can shoot, this team will be special.

So: I for one would love to see Suggs at the PG and not the "PG" to see if he can run the PnR effectively. Management needs to know the answer to this question.


If the FO decides to acquire a SG instead of a true PG this offseason.. Monk could be a great fit next to Suggs


Or Grayson Allen...


Personally I think Monk is a better fit. Much better passer/playmaker
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Post#324 » by JoshuaPotter » Wed Feb 28, 2024 1:34 pm

This was a should have won game in theory even without Paolo. That being said. Franz and the defense stepped up. They were on a back to back and just couldn't even.

Well take it. We are in the hunt for the playoffs.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 59: Brooklyn Nets (22-35) at Orlando Magic (32-26) - 7pm 

Post#325 » by drsd » Wed Feb 28, 2024 1:51 pm

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meatwad4343 wrote:Anyone still want to throw all our money at claxton? I haven't watched a ton of him but last night he looked awful. Constantly fouling, not mention sitting there arguing with a referee while Suggs puts him on a poster.


Yea I'm not sure why he has been touted as a top FA we should pursue. Wendell and Goga are fine, we need a Shooting point guard.



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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 59: Brooklyn Nets (22-35) at Orlando Magic (32-26) - 7pm 

Post#326 » by eyriq » Wed Feb 28, 2024 4:57 pm

AB, Fultz, and Cole off the bench was weird AF, just want to point this out. Especially with Fultz acting like a big out of the 3.
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Post#327 » by thelead » Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:12 pm

I’m impressed with Houstan’s shooting as of late. That 3pt percentage is inching up towards 39%… and he just turned 21.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 59: Brooklyn Nets (22-35) at Orlando Magic (32-26) - 7pm 

Post#328 » by Knightro » Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:33 pm

thelead wrote:I’m impressed with Houstan’s shooting as of late. That 3pt percentage is inching up towards 39%… and he just turned 21.


He is a very good shooter and he shoots an extremely high volume of threes. That's the best-case scenario.

Houstan's 11.8 3PTA/100 would rank 16th in the NBA if he were qualified.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 59: Brooklyn Nets (22-35) at Orlando Magic (32-26) - 7pm 

Post#329 » by RookieStar » Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:44 pm

pepe1991 wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
OrlChamps2030 wrote:
If the FO decides to acquire a SG instead of a true PG this offseason.. Monk could be a great fit next to Suggs


Or Grayson Allen...


Most of normal PGs also can shoot, so i would prefer actual PG.

Gary Harris data is funny but does not really tell whole story, among 7 or 8 wins we had in 9 games, 5 were against teams well below .500 record.


Thing with normal PGs regardless of whether they can shoot or not is that they WANT to pound the ball. Sure probably not as much as Cole does but it does take away ball possessions of our 2 best players who happens to be both top-5 in ball-handling for forwards.

So in a perfect world where both PB and Franz are in the SL/crunch time together with Suggs, I am ok with a bigger guard to partner him that can shoot 3s waiting for the pass.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 59: Brooklyn Nets (22-35) at Orlando Magic (32-26) - 7pm 

Post#330 » by RookieStar » Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:47 pm

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RookieStar wrote:
OrlChamps2030 wrote:
If the FO decides to acquire a SG instead of a true PG this offseason.. Monk could be a great fit next to Suggs


Or Grayson Allen...


Personally I think Monk is a better fit. Much better passer/playmaker


I dunno... physical wise Grayson is a little bit taller than him and has a more defensive reputation in the guards department yes?

Plus isn't he the highest 3pt% in the league this season?

Also, as I have been harping on before, he is the quintessential 6'3 above white guard that all championship team has. MIL had him, DEN had that Braun dude, LAL had Caruso, MIA ( almost) has Herro, etc etc LOL jk
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Post#331 » by byeganyo » Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:11 am

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thelead wrote:I’m impressed with Houstan’s shooting as of late. That 3pt percentage is inching up towards 39%… and he just turned 21.


He is a very good shooter and he shoots an extremely high volume of threes. That's the best-case scenario.

Houstan's 11.8 3PTA/100 would rank 16th in the NBA if he were qualified.


He is not short or slow, he likes to move around, if he is not dumb or crazy, he'll learn his role and stick in the league for many seasons.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 59: Brooklyn Nets (22-35) at Orlando Magic (32-26) - 7pm 

Post#332 » by pepe1991 » Thu Feb 29, 2024 7:05 am

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pepe1991 wrote:
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Or Grayson Allen...


Most of normal PGs also can shoot, so i would prefer actual PG.

Gary Harris data is funny but does not really tell whole story, among 7 or 8 wins we had in 9 games, 5 were against teams well below .500 record.


Thing with normal PGs regardless of whether they can shoot or not is that they WANT to pound the ball. Sure probably not as much as Cole does but it does take away ball possessions of our 2 best players who happens to be both top-5 in ball-handling for forwards.

So in a perfect world where both PB and Franz are in the SL/crunch time together with Suggs, I am ok with a bigger guard to partner him that can shoot 3s waiting for the pass.


If you look at average time spent with ball, you will find out that Banchero pounds ball more than Lebron, Franz more than Durant, Black more than Randle :lol:

But yea, Cole is worst offender but in general majority of our players like to keep ball in their hands more than they probably should.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 59: Brooklyn Nets (22-35) at Orlando Magic (32-26) - 7pm 

Post#333 » by RookieStar » Thu Feb 29, 2024 7:52 am

pepe1991 wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
Most of normal PGs also can shoot, so i would prefer actual PG.

Gary Harris data is funny but does not really tell whole story, among 7 or 8 wins we had in 9 games, 5 were against teams well below .500 record.


Thing with normal PGs regardless of whether they can shoot or not is that they WANT to pound the ball. Sure probably not as much as Cole does but it does take away ball possessions of our 2 best players who happens to be both top-5 in ball-handling for forwards.

So in a perfect world where both PB and Franz are in the SL/crunch time together with Suggs, I am ok with a bigger guard to partner him that can shoot 3s waiting for the pass.


If you look at average time spent with ball, you will find out that Banchero pounds ball more than Lebron, Franz more than Durant, Black more than Randle :lol:

But yea, Cole is worst offender but in general majority of our players like to keep ball in their hands more than they probably should.


Exactly, so i kinda am ok with a SG that shoots more than playmake.

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