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Compare current Magic players to 90s/00s players

Posted: Tue Mar 5, 2024 12:09 am
by otownflava21
i thought how fun it would be for us to compare current Magic players to those from the 90s and 00 era, which is when I begun watching NBA and became a true die hard Magic fan.

I'm sure you guys may come up with better comps than mine, but i'll start it off. Feel free to critique my choices.

Paolo Banchero = Chris Webber
Franz Wagner = Keith Van Horn
Jalen Suggs = Doug Christie
Cole Anthony = Troy Hudson
Wendell Carter Jr = Horace Grant
Moritz Wagner = Corliss Williamson
Markelle Fultz = Andre Miller
Gary Harris = David Wesley
Jonathan Isaac = Stacey Augmon
Goga Bitadze = Brandon Haywood
Caleb Houstan = Kareem Rush
Anthony Black = Josh Childress
Joe Ingles = Luke Walton

PG - Andre Miller / Troy Hudson
SG - Doug Christie / David Wesley / Josh Childress
SF - Keith Van Horn / Stacey Augmon / Luke Walton / Kareen Rush
PF - Chris Webber / Corliss Williamson
Ce - Horace Grant / Brandon Haywood

Would this team all in their prime make the playoffs?


Who would you have for your own player comparisons?

Re: Compare current Magic players to 90s/00s players

Posted: Tue Mar 5, 2024 1:01 am
by The Effect
I mean it would be a great team with that front court and Andre Miller (super underrated), but the problem with this is i dont see Fultz as that guy. Put a prime andre Miller on this team team with paolo\wagner\suggs\wendell and that bench and we are a top 4 team in the east right now

Re: Compare current Magic players to 90s/00s players

Posted: Tue Mar 5, 2024 4:14 pm
by JoshuaPotter
The Effect wrote:I mean it would be a great team with that front court and Andre Miller (super underrated), but the problem with this is i dont see Fultz as that guy. Put a prime andre Miller on this team team with paolo\wagner\suggs\wendell and that bench and we are a top 4 team in the east right now


You are wrong.

We would be top 3, possibly 2. Although 2 might be a reach.

Re: Compare current Magic players to 90s/00s players

Posted: Wed Mar 6, 2024 5:09 pm
by otownflava21
JoshuaPotter wrote:
The Effect wrote:I mean it would be a great team with that front court and Andre Miller (super underrated), but the problem with this is i dont see Fultz as that guy. Put a prime andre Miller on this team team with paolo\wagner\suggs\wendell and that bench and we are a top 4 team in the east right now


You are wrong.

We would be top 3, possibly 2. Although 2 might be a reach.



I feel Andre Miller, a non 3pt threat, is a slightly better version of Fultz

Re: Compare current Magic players to 90s/00s players

Posted: Wed Mar 6, 2024 6:06 pm
by JoshuaPotter
otownflava21 wrote:
JoshuaPotter wrote:
The Effect wrote:I mean it would be a great team with that front court and Andre Miller (super underrated), but the problem with this is i dont see Fultz as that guy. Put a prime andre Miller on this team team with paolo\wagner\suggs\wendell and that bench and we are a top 4 team in the east right now


You are wrong.

We would be top 3, possibly 2. Although 2 might be a reach.



I feel Andre Miller, a non 3pt threat, is a slightly better version of Fultz


The version of Fultz you envision I do not think ever existed.

Andre Miller was good for a long time and could both score, assist, and get to the free throw line more then Fultz.

But we are comparing "Prime Andre Miller" to Fultz what we have now....

I don't think there is a comparison.

Re: Compare current Magic players to 90s/00s players

Posted: Wed Mar 6, 2024 11:56 pm
by The Effect
JoshuaPotter wrote:
otownflava21 wrote:
JoshuaPotter wrote:
You are wrong.

We would be top 3, possibly 2. Although 2 might be a reach.



I feel Andre Miller, a non 3pt threat, is a slightly better version of Fultz


The version of Fultz you envision I do not think ever existed.

Andre Miller was good for a long time and could both score, assist, and get to the free throw line more then Fultz.

But we are comparing "Prime Andre Miller" to Fultz what we have now....

I don't think there is a comparison.

Im a big fultz fan and i still agree
Prime Andre Miller was insanely underrated. Sure he wasnt a 3pt shooter, but it was a different era, he didnt need to be, im sure if he knew it was vital to be one, he could of atleast been an average shooter and atleast threatened a defense from back there. Fultz is so scared to shoot that i dont even know why defenses defend him past the 15 ft

Re: Compare current Magic players to 90s/00s players

Posted: Thu Mar 7, 2024 12:12 am
by RookieStar
Am i the only one here who sees Paolo as the new age Tmac? Never mind the position or their body size, look at their games

They are.big for their positions
They love the middy and they have 3pt range
They are the go to scorers for their teams
They have deceptive speeds and can dunk it with authority
They have the clutch genes

Re: Compare current Magic players to 90s/00s players

Posted: Thu Mar 7, 2024 12:53 am
by Last Guardian
Paolo like a better version of Odom

Re: Compare current Magic players to 90s/00s players

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 2:39 am
by eyriq
I'll give it a stab:

Paolo Banchero = Isaiah Rider, 2000, ATL
Franz Wagner = Vince Carter, 2008, NJN
Jalen Suggs = Kendall Gill, 2000, NJN
Wendell Carter Jr. = Matt Harpring, 1999, ORL
Gary Harris = Greg Buckner, 2006, DEN
Cole Anthony = Jerry Stackhouse, 2002, DET
Moritz Wagner = Lawrence Funderburke, 1999, SAC
Joe Ingles = Chris Childs, 1999, NYK
Anthony Black = Antoine Wright, 2007, NJN
Jonathan Isaac = Chris Morris, 1994, NJN
Caleb Houstan = Bryon Russell, 2004, LAL
Chuma Okeke = Brad Lohaus, 1998, SAS
Goga Bitadze = Amir Johnson, 2008, DET
Markelle Fultz = David Vanterpool, 2001, WAS
Trevelin Queen = Randy Brown, 2003, PHO

Re: Compare current Magic players to 90s/00s players

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:25 am
by SHAQ32
eyriq wrote:I'll give it a stab:

Paolo Banchero = Isaiah Rider, 2000, ATL
Franz Wagner = Vince Carter, 2008, NJN
Jalen Suggs = Kendall Gill, 2000, NJN
Wendell Carter Jr. = Matt Harpring, 1999, ORL
Gary Harris = Greg Buckner, 2006, DEN
Cole Anthony = Jerry Stackhouse, 2002, DET
Moritz Wagner = Lawrence Funderburke, 1999, SAC
Joe Ingles = Chris Childs, 1999, NYK
Anthony Black = Antoine Wright, 2007, NJN
Jonathan Isaac = Chris Morris, 1994, NJN
Caleb Houstan = Bryon Russell, 2004, LAL
Chuma Okeke = Brad Lohaus, 1998, SAS
Goga Bitadze = Amir Johnson, 2008, DET
Markelle Fultz = David Vanterpool, 2001, WAS
Trevelin Queen = Randy Brown, 2003, PHO


Might be the worst comparisons I've ever seen, no hyperbole

Re: Compare current Magic players to 90s/00s players

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 4:28 pm
by eyriq
SHAQ32 wrote:
eyriq wrote:I'll give it a stab:

Paolo Banchero = Isaiah Rider, 2000, ATL
Franz Wagner = Vince Carter, 2008, NJN
Jalen Suggs = Kendall Gill, 2000, NJN
Wendell Carter Jr. = Matt Harpring, 1999, ORL
Gary Harris = Greg Buckner, 2006, DEN
Cole Anthony = Jerry Stackhouse, 2002, DET
Moritz Wagner = Lawrence Funderburke, 1999, SAC
Joe Ingles = Chris Childs, 1999, NYK
Anthony Black = Antoine Wright, 2007, NJN
Jonathan Isaac = Chris Morris, 1994, NJN
Caleb Houstan = Bryon Russell, 2004, LAL
Chuma Okeke = Brad Lohaus, 1998, SAS
Goga Bitadze = Amir Johnson, 2008, DET
Markelle Fultz = David Vanterpool, 2001, WAS
Trevelin Queen = Randy Brown, 2003, PHO


Might be the worst comparisons I've ever seen, no hyperbole
I think the comps for Franz and Paolo are due to the fact that they play on the perimeter more than forwards did in the 90's and 00's. We have a size advantage while playing a more perimeter oriented game, if you compare eras.