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Post#1481 » by Skybox » Sat May 4, 2024 11:16 am

cedric76 wrote:Monk for less than 90M /4yr is my pick, he would be a huge asset and potentially a great trade chip to go after guys like Mitchell or Murray


IF Mitchell or Murray is who you want, don’t sign Monk…go get the right guy now. Why screw around for a year(s)?

Mitchell is unlikely, but I think he’ll let it be known where he’ll re-sign if and when he asks out…he doesn’t want to bounce around anymore than a team would want to give up the farm for a rental. Murray is gettable now. I’d be happy with Monk, but the other two push us to an entirely different level. If we don’t have the pieces they want, Monk isn’t going to make the difference…we’d likely need a 3-way with a pick-heavy package going out.
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Post#1482 » by I Rasharted » Sat May 4, 2024 11:19 am

Skybox wrote:
I Rasharted wrote:
cedric76 wrote:Monk for less than 90M /4yr is my pick, he would be a huge asset and potentially a great trade chip to go after guys like Mitchell or Murray

Isaac, WCJ and a first for Murray. Sign Tyus Jones and Claxton.

PG: Jones/AB/Anthony
SG: Murray/Suggs/Howard
SF: Franz/Houstan
PF: Paolo/?
Center: Claxton/Wagner/Goga

Won't happen though. Either the Magic want nothing to do with Murray because of something-something off-court issues (quelle horreur), or the Hawks are asking the moon for him.


Murray is a PG …he’d clearly be starting next to Suggs. That’s why playing next to Trae was a fail…they hoped. Murray could play off- ball and he could, to a degree,…but, Trae is the most ball-dominant guy in the league, so it clearly compromised Murray. Whenever Trae was out, Murray went wild. Tyus should be the best backup PG in the league but will, by now, be getting starter money…so, he’s unlikely after Murray. Certainly be a nice luxury to have both, but Tyus’ recent overpayment probably kills that. Murray/Claxton would be an amazing summer. Perhaps even find a way to keep Isaac, who makes the same as Tyus…but I know he was key in your Murray trade. If Isaac had to be included, perhaps we keep WCJ to backup 4/5.


Gotcha. I'm no cap specialist, but could the Magic clear enough room to get Monk and Claxton?

PG: Murray/AB/Anthony
SG: Suggs-Monk platoon/Howard
SF: Franz/Houstan
PF: Paolo/?
Center: Claxton/Wagner/Goga

Agreed it'd be nice to keep one of Isaac or WCJ. Was just trying to offer fair value for Murray. Who knows what his value really is, though.
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Post#1483 » by Skybox » Sat May 4, 2024 11:31 am

I Rasharted wrote:
Skybox wrote:
I Rasharted wrote:Isaac, WCJ and a first for Murray. Sign Tyus Jones and Claxton.

PG: Jones/AB/Anthony
SG: Murray/Suggs/Howard
SF: Franz/Houstan
PF: Paolo/?
Center: Claxton/Wagner/Goga

Won't happen though. Either the Magic want nothing to do with Murray because of something-something off-court issues (quelle horreur), or the Hawks are asking the moon for him.


Murray is a PG …he’d clearly be starting next to Suggs. That’s why playing next to Trae was a fail…they hoped. Murray could play off- ball and he could, to a degree,…but, Trae is the most ball-dominant guy in the league, so it clearly compromised Murray. Whenever Trae was out, Murray went wild. Tyus should be the best backup PG in the league but will, by now, be getting starter money…so, he’s unlikely after Murray. Certainly be a nice luxury to have both, but Tyus’ recent overpayment probably kills that. Murray/Claxton would be an amazing summer. Perhaps even find a way to keep Isaac, who makes the same as Tyus…but I know he was key in your Murray trade. If Isaac had to be included, perhaps we keep WCJ to backup 4/5.


Gotcha. I'm no cap specialist, but could the Magic clear enough room to get Monk and Claxton?

PG: Murray/AB/Anthony
SG: Suggs-Monk platoon/Howard
SF: Franz/Houstan
PF: Paolo/?
Center: Claxton/Wagner/Goga

Agreed it'd be nice to keep one of Isaac or WCJ. Was just trying to offer fair value for Murray. Who knows what his value really is, though.


I think ORL would have to not guarantee Isaac to get to that range of apps 45m. I could be wrong…we could also trade a player like WCJ or maybe Cole for pick(s) to clear more, but they’d be likely for srps as they’re aren’t many cap space teams and theyd know why we’re dumping decent players.
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Post#1484 » by I Rasharted » Sat May 4, 2024 11:36 am

Skybox wrote:
I Rasharted wrote:
Skybox wrote:
Murray is a PG …he’d clearly be starting next to Suggs. That’s why playing next to Trae was a fail…they hoped. Murray could play off- ball and he could, to a degree,…but, Trae is the most ball-dominant guy in the league, so it clearly compromised Murray. Whenever Trae was out, Murray went wild. Tyus should be the best backup PG in the league but will, by now, be getting starter money…so, he’s unlikely after Murray. Certainly be a nice luxury to have both, but Tyus’ recent overpayment probably kills that. Murray/Claxton would be an amazing summer. Perhaps even find a way to keep Isaac, who makes the same as Tyus…but I know he was key in your Murray trade. If Isaac had to be included, perhaps we keep WCJ to backup 4/5.


Gotcha. I'm no cap specialist, but could the Magic clear enough room to get Monk and Claxton?

PG: Murray/AB/Anthony
SG: Suggs-Monk platoon/Howard
SF: Franz/Houstan
PF: Paolo/?
Center: Claxton/Wagner/Goga

Agreed it'd be nice to keep one of Isaac or WCJ. Was just trying to offer fair value for Murray. Who knows what his value really is, though.


I think ORL would have to not guarantee Isaac to get to that range of apps 45m. I could be wrong…we could also trade a player like WCJ or maybe Cole for pick(s) to clear more, but they’d be likely for srps as they’re aren’t many cap space teams and theyd know why we’re dumping decent players.

Interesting. Gonna be (better be) an interesting offseason. I'm slightly jacked about it.

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Post#1485 » by T-Cat » Sat May 4, 2024 12:13 pm

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I'm sure if given a chance, Dwight Howard could give us 10-15 minutes a night of solid defense and productivity! He could be a affordable 1-2 year option for us, not to mention would really boost ratings and ticket sales for this up and coming team! Maybe he could cut his hair too like he did back in the day :lol:
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Post#1486 » by Jaxfann » Sat May 4, 2024 1:28 pm

T-Cat wrote:
eyriq wrote:
T-Cat wrote:
Read on Twitter
Love to see this


I'm sure if given a chance, Dwight Howard could give us 10-15 minutes a night of solid defense and productivity! He could be a affordable 1-2 year option for us, not to mention would really boost ratings and ticket sales for this up and coming team! Maybe he could cut his hair too like he did back in the day :lol:


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Post#1487 » by cedric76 » Sat May 4, 2024 1:46 pm

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cedric76 wrote:Monk for less than 90M /4yr is my pick, he would be a huge asset and potentially a great trade chip to go after guys like Mitchell or Murray


IF Mitchell or Murray is who you want, don’t sign Monk…go get the right guy now. Why screw around for a year(s)?

Mitchell is unlikely, but I think he’ll let it be known where he’ll re-sign if and when he asks out…he doesn’t want to bounce around anymore than a team would want to give up the farm for a rental. Murray is gettable now. I’d be happy with Monk, but the other two push us to an entirely different level. If we don’t have the pieces they want, Monk isn’t going to make the difference…we’d likely need a 3-way with a pick-heavy package going out.



Do you understand that free agents can be traded in December?

What would you prefer trading?

Monk+ 2 Frp or AB+ Jett+ 4 Frp ?

I don't think I ever met someone as impatient as you.

It might be a generational thing, if you don't mind me asking, how old are you?

I m not trying to be rude, I really like your input and trade proposal, just trying to be a better idea of the people

I m born in 76 so I m an old grumpy man
Draft Carter
Sign monk
Trade Cole for a forward
Let chuma+fultz go
Offer Harris and goga a 1+1 deal

unleash Jett next seaon

Go Magic

Suggs, AB, Carter
Monk, Jett, Harris
Franz, Jett, Houstan
Paolo, Moe, (Cole trade)
Wcj, JI, goga
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Post#1488 » by basketballRob » Sat May 4, 2024 2:00 pm

Potentially, a player like Mitchell would make us worse because he's not really moving and cutting off the ball. I don't think he pulls a lot of gravity.

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Post#1489 » by OnlyFranz22 » Sat May 4, 2024 2:26 pm

Please no to Paul George
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Post#1490 » by thelead » Sat May 4, 2024 2:36 pm

OnlyFranz22 wrote:Please no to Paul George

My heart says no but the analytics still look good.
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Post#1491 » by three3d » Sat May 4, 2024 2:49 pm

What about Dennis Schröder on this team next season as the starting pg or coming off the bench? Already has chemistry with Franz and Mo playing on the German National Team so an easy plug in possibly. I believe his contract runs out after next season and he’s set to make $13 million during the 2024-25 season. Any way he could be used during the 24–25 season and either resigned or be a contract coming off the books?
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Post#1492 » by Skybox » Sat May 4, 2024 3:05 pm

cedric76 wrote:
Skybox wrote:
cedric76 wrote:Monk for less than 90M /4yr is my pick, he would be a huge asset and potentially a great trade chip to go after guys like Mitchell or Murray


IF Mitchell or Murray is who you want, don’t sign Monk…go get the right guy now. Why screw around for a year(s)?

Mitchell is unlikely, but I think he’ll let it be known where he’ll re-sign if and when he asks out…he doesn’t want to bounce around anymore than a team would want to give up the farm for a rental. Murray is gettable now. I’d be happy with Monk, but the other two push us to an entirely different level. If we don’t have the pieces they want, Monk isn’t going to make the difference…we’d likely need a 3-way with a pick-heavy package going out.



Do you understand that free agents can be traded in December?

What would you prefer trading?

Monk+ 2 Frp or AB+ Jett+ 4 Frp ?

I don't think I ever met someone as impatient as you.

It might be a generational thing, if you don't mind me asking, how old are you?

I m not trying to be rude, I really like your input and trade proposal, just trying to be a better idea of the people

I m born in 76 so I m an old grumpy man


I am 56, born in ‘67. I prefer wisdom. I’m not grumpy at all…just frustrated with those who would pump the brakes and congratulate ourselves for a couple more wasted years because we’re ahead of schedule rather than push higher. In the NBA, like much of life, “if you’re not growing you’re dying”… ask all of the teams that expected success, that we blew by this season. I am less patient now because I’ve seen enough of people (including myself) jerk around and cling to mediocre things, ideas, and people for too long before recognizing what truth was right in front of them. NBA is a business and, among many business lessons I’ve learned is…be decisive, put a plan into action-even if it’s not perfect. The worst option is planning yourself to death and never doing anything because your plan isn’t ideal in every way. “Paralysis by Analysis”. That truth is compounded when your business is something as insignificant, in the scheme of things, as sports - which is strictly for entertainment. Be bold and courageous (after doing your homework)…you’ll regret the things you didn’t do more than the mistakes you made. Look at MIA, they go for it-every year. They sometimes make a mistake and they live with it and proactively fix it-even if it hurts. Our FO (so far) has generally done well but seems so intent on avoiding a mistake that they don’t chase or create opportunities. They’ve held onto small mistakes too long and made the repair more painful or less profitable. They did great with the sell-high on Vuc, but they sat on Fournier, Ross, AG, Bamba, and Fultz way too long. Gary Harris was a lucky benefit as he was just expiring paper thrown into the AG trade for Hampton and a late frp. Fultz was a good bet worth trying that didn’t work out…we should be watching Tyus or Monte Morris types that we could have easily flipped expiring Markelle for (with a srp or two) instead of clinging…now we cheer for the big summer of cap space that could have already been players but it’s difficult to lure UFAs these days, especially for a small market non-contender…On the other hand, the very good news is that ORL IS really good suddenly and could be a draw. We’ll see…if you look at recent years, there’s very few major FA moves vs trades…and trades are almost never equal value players - it’s generally two teams in different situations, on different timelines, with very different priorities. We should unequivocally be BUYERS this summer…otherwise, all of the rationalizing about patience, organic development, AB & Jett being “secret All-Stars”, etc will continue to ring hollow.

The two options you list are imaginary…in most posts, you defend AB and Jett’s value to the end and then today you casually suggest that career backup Monk, once he gets big money is, apparently, worth two more frps than AB and Jett combined :crazy: How is it that we fans are so much more capable of seeing their value than opposing NBA GMs?
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Post#1493 » by Skybox » Sat May 4, 2024 3:06 pm

three3d wrote:What about Dennis Schröder on this team next season as the starting pg or coming off the bench? Already has chemistry with Franz and Mo playing on the German National Team so an easy plug in possibly. I believe his contract runs out after next season and he’s set to make $13 million during the 2024-25 season. Any way he could be used during the 24–25 season and either resigned or be a contract coming off the books?


I’d like him in a year as a vet min ring-chasing backup to the stud we sign this summer :D
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Post#1494 » by OnlyFranz22 » Sat May 4, 2024 3:10 pm

thelead wrote:
OnlyFranz22 wrote:Please no to Paul George

My heart says no but the analytics still look good.


He just can’t be trusted in big moments. Seems to always disappear.
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Post#1495 » by three3d » Sat May 4, 2024 3:13 pm

Skybox wrote:
three3d wrote:What about Dennis Schröder on this team next season as the starting pg or coming off the bench? Already has chemistry with Franz and Mo playing on the German National Team so an easy plug in possibly. I believe his contract runs out after next season and he’s set to make $13 million during the 2024-25 season. Any way he could be used during the 24–25 season and either resigned or be a contract coming off the books?


I’d like him in a year as a vet min ring-chasing backup to the stud we sign this summer :D


Would you pull the trigger on a Cole Anthony for Dennis Schröder trade? Not even sure if it would work out but it does send Cole back to his roots in New York playing for the Nets.
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Post#1496 » by Skybox » Sat May 4, 2024 3:20 pm

three3d wrote:
Skybox wrote:
three3d wrote:What about Dennis Schröder on this team next season as the starting pg or coming off the bench? Already has chemistry with Franz and Mo playing on the German National Team so an easy plug in possibly. I believe his contract runs out after next season and he’s set to make $13 million during the 2024-25 season. Any way he could be used during the 24–25 season and either resigned or be a contract coming off the books?


I’d like him in a year as a vet min ring-chasing backup to the stud we sign this summer :D


Would you pull the trigger on a Cole Anthony for Dennis Schröder trade? Not even sure if it would work out but it does send Cole back to his roots in New York playing for the Nets.


I don’t think I would. Cole’s far from untouchable but Schroeder’s known to be kind of aloof. Cole’s personality is so good that the minor bball upgrade doesn’t justify the potential locker room issues. Idk if Schroeder’s personality suits a minor role…I’d also be concerned about fueling a clique on a really unified team. PG has a lot of say where the ball goes…can’t risk Paolo feeling un-German. :lol:
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Post#1497 » by three3d » Sat May 4, 2024 3:34 pm

Skybox wrote:
three3d wrote:
Skybox wrote:
I’d like him in a year as a vet min ring-chasing backup to the stud we sign this summer :D


Would you pull the trigger on a Cole Anthony for Dennis Schröder trade? Not even sure if it would work out but it does send Cole back to his roots in New York playing for the Nets.


I don’t think I would. Cole’s far from untouchable but Schroeder’s known to be kind of aloof. Cole’s personality is so good that the minor bball upgrade doesn’t justify the potential locker room issues. Idk if Schroeder’s personality suits a minor role…I’d also be concerned about fueling a clique on a really unified team. PG has a lot of say where the ball goes…can’t risk Paolo feeling un-German. :lol:


Lol we could potentially start a European war in the locker room with 3 Germans and 1 Italian heritage player. I’m torn on the right fit to be honest. Paolo has the potential to be so great but he has the ball in his hand so much. What’s it going to look like with a true point guard initiating the offense? The offense would really have to change a lot wouldn’t it? Where as a knock down 3 point sniper is going to spread the floor and open up the paint for Paolo and Franz. Is there a point guard out there right now that offers both of those abilities ? Can we redo the draft and take Jordan Hawkins instead of Jet lol? I liked Hawkins and his ability to utilize screens and be a 3 point threat without having the ball in his hand. Time will tell though if Jet can be that, but the pre draft tapes showed Jordan Hawkins already being that.
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Post#1498 » by JRoy » Sat May 4, 2024 3:41 pm

Skybox wrote:
cedric76 wrote:
Skybox wrote:
IF Mitchell or Murray is who you want, don’t sign Monk…go get the right guy now. Why screw around for a year(s)?

Mitchell is unlikely, but I think he’ll let it be known where he’ll re-sign if and when he asks out…he doesn’t want to bounce around anymore than a team would want to give up the farm for a rental. Murray is gettable now. I’d be happy with Monk, but the other two push us to an entirely different level. If we don’t have the pieces they want, Monk isn’t going to make the difference…we’d likely need a 3-way with a pick-heavy package going out.



Do you understand that free agents can be traded in December?

What would you prefer trading?

Monk+ 2 Frp or AB+ Jett+ 4 Frp ?

I don't think I ever met someone as impatient as you.

It might be a generational thing, if you don't mind me asking, how old are you?

I m not trying to be rude, I really like your input and trade proposal, just trying to be a better idea of the people

I m born in 76 so I m an old grumpy man


I am 56, born in ‘67. I prefer wisdom. I’m not grumpy at all…just frustrated with those who would pump the brakes and congratulate ourselves for a couple more wasted years because we’re ahead of schedule rather than push higher. In the NBA, like much of life, “if you’re not growing you’re dying”… ask all of the teams that expected success, that we blew by this season. I am less patient now because I’ve seen enough of people (including myself) jerk around and cling to mediocre things, ideas, and people for too long before recognizing what truth was right in front of them. NBA is a business and, among many business lessons I’ve learned is…be decisive, put a plan into action-even if it’s not perfect. The worst option is planning yourself to death and never doing anything because your plan isn’t ideal in every way. “Paralysis by Analysis”. That truth is compounded when your business is something as insignificant, in the scheme of things, as sports - which is strictly for entertainment. Be bold and courageous (after doing your homework)…you’ll regret the things you didn’t do more than the mistakes you made. Look at MIA, they go for it-every year. They sometimes make a mistake and they live with it and proactively fix it-even if it hurts. Our FO (so far) has generally done well but seems so intent on avoiding a mistake that they don’t chase or create opportunities. They’ve held onto small mistakes too long and made the repair more painful or less profitable. They did great with the sell-high on Vuc, but they sat on Fournier, Ross, AG, Bamba, and Fultz way too long. Gary Harris was a lucky benefit as he was just expiring paper thrown into the AG trade for Hampton and a late frp. Fultz was a good bet worth trying that didn’t work out…we should be watching Tyus or Monte Morris types that we could have easily flipped expiring Markelle for (with a srp or two) instead of clinging…now we cheer for the big summer of cap space that could have already been players but it’s difficult to lure UFAs these days, especially for a small market non-contender…On the other hand, the very good news is that ORL IS really good suddenly and could be a draw. We’ll see…if you look at recent years, there’s very few major FA moves vs trades…and trades are almost never equal value players - it’s generally two teams in different situations, on different timelines, with very different priorities. We should unequivocally be BUYERS this summer…otherwise, all of the rationalizing about patience, organic development, AB & Jett being “secret All-Stars”, etc will continue to ring hollow.

The two options you list are imaginary…in most posts, you defend AB and Jett’s value to the end and then today you casually suggest that career backup Monk, once he gets big money is, apparently, worth two more frps than AB and Jett combined :crazy: How is it that we fans are so much more capable of seeing their value than opposing NBA GMs?


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That said, it’s always easier to see where it all goes wrong in hindsight.
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Post#1499 » by Skybox » Sat May 4, 2024 3:44 pm

three3d wrote:
Skybox wrote:
three3d wrote:
Would you pull the trigger on a Cole Anthony for Dennis Schröder trade? Not even sure if it would work out but it does send Cole back to his roots in New York playing for the Nets.


I don’t think I would. Cole’s far from untouchable but Schroeder’s known to be kind of aloof. Cole’s personality is so good that the minor bball upgrade doesn’t justify the potential locker room issues. Idk if Schroeder’s personality suits a minor role…I’d also be concerned about fueling a clique on a really unified team. PG has a lot of say where the ball goes…can’t risk Paolo feeling un-German. :lol:


Lol we could potentially start a European war in the locker room with 3 Germans and 1 Italian heritage player. I’m torn on the right fit to be honest. Paolo has the potential to be so great but he has the ball in his hand so much. What’s it going to look like with a true point guard initiating the offense? The offense would really have to change a lot wouldn’t it? Where as a knock down 3 point sniper is going to spread the floor and open up the paint for Paolo and Franz. Is there a point guard out there right now that offers both of those abilities ? Can we redo the draft and take Jordan Hawkins instead of Jet lol? I liked Hawkins and his ability to utilize screens and be a 3 point threat without having the ball in his hand. Time will tell though if Jet can be that, but the pre draft tapes showed Jordan Hawkins already being that.


I’m thinking it’s not a “real PG” in the vein of CP3, Tyus, or even Schroeder (although a guy like that on the bench would be nice when things get sloppy). I’m DEFINITELY not ripping the ball out of Paolo & Franz’ hands…just offering them support and a real 3rd creator option when good teams clamp down on them (which they will more and more)…I’m thinking more like Murray, Monk, Simons.

My redraft would be Cason Wallace more than Hawkins (but I really like Hawkins too). Wallace is a combo guard, fierce defender, makes open 3’s and can handle & distribute “enough” to fill in the gaps…imagine Fultz with some off-ball value. I don’t see ANY shot-hunting or PG play from AB yet, but maybe we get a little more next year…his length, defense, and vibe are great but I don’t see the skill.

Btw, doesn’t Devin Carter smell a lot like Cason?
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Post#1500 » by three3d » Sat May 4, 2024 3:57 pm

Skybox wrote:
three3d wrote:
Skybox wrote:
I don’t think I would. Cole’s far from untouchable but Schroeder’s known to be kind of aloof. Cole’s personality is so good that the minor bball upgrade doesn’t justify the potential locker room issues. Idk if Schroeder’s personality suits a minor role…I’d also be concerned about fueling a clique on a really unified team. PG has a lot of say where the ball goes…can’t risk Paolo feeling un-German. :lol:


Lol we could potentially start a European war in the locker room with 3 Germans and 1 Italian heritage player. I’m torn on the right fit to be honest. Paolo has the potential to be so great but he has the ball in his hand so much. What’s it going to look like with a true point guard initiating the offense? The offense would really have to change a lot wouldn’t it? Where as a knock down 3 point sniper is going to spread the floor and open up the paint for Paolo and Franz. Is there a point guard out there right now that offers both of those abilities ? Can we redo the draft and take Jordan Hawkins instead of Jet lol? I liked Hawkins and his ability to utilize screens and be a 3 point threat without having the ball in his hand. Time will tell though if Jet can be that, but the pre draft tapes showed Jordan Hawkins already being that.


I’m thinking it’s not a “real PG” in the vein of CP3, Tyus, or even Schroeder (although a guy like that on the bench would be nice when things get sloppy). I’m DEFINITELY not ripping the ball out of Paolo & Franz’ hands…just offering them support and a real 3rd creator option when good teams clamp down on them (which they will more and more)…I’m thinking more like Murray, Monk, Simons.

My redraft would be Cason Wallace more than Hawkins (but I really like Hawkins too). Wallace is a combo guard, fierce defender, makes open 3’s and can handle & distribute “enough” to fill in the gaps…imagine Fultz with some off-ball value. I don’t see ANY shot-hunting or PG play from AB yet, but maybe we get a little more next year…his length, defense, and vibe are great but I don’t see the skill.

Btw, doesn’t Devin Carter smell a lot like Cason?


OKC drafts so damn good, they drafted and lost three HOF players ( Durant,Westbrook, & Russell) and still here they are this year as the #1 seed in the ridiculously tough west. That is the reason I’d love our front office to explore a bit of a business relationship with them. Orlando and OKC are both young teams but on the opposite end of the spectrum and timeline. I’ve said it before but Chet and JI on the same team at the same time, or JI coming off their bench. I’d scratch their back now if they would scratch ours later lol. I’ve seen D. Carters name tied to ours either in this forum or on mock drafts, I need to watch some videos on him.

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