Official Summer 2024 Magic Free Agency and Trade Ideas Thread 4.0

[eyriq]

28% from deep on the season and 26.5% from deep in the playoffs... that is not a max SF in today's NBA. It's just not.

He's still developing

[fendilim]

He most certainly is.

https://youtu.be/0WZuFIIdHgE?si=io5TRexx3pOwUY_1

Bro do you know how easy it is to make this kind of video after the fact.

Here I'll counter with this video.

Watch on YouTube

franz is nowhere near dirk is. Sheesh.

Franz is more of Hedo than dirk.

[ibraheim718]

28% from deep on the season and 26.5% from deep in the playoffs... that is not a max SF in today's NBA. It's just not.

Let me ask you a question.. is Mika Bridges going to get a max contract? Not shouldn't or should.. do you think he's getting one?

[thelead]

28% from deep on the season and 26.5% from deep in the playoffs... that is not a max SF in today's NBA. It's just not.

He's still developing

That's a huge regression though... You can't pay someone for what you hope they will become when you have 79 games of data for this year.

[basketballRob]

28% from deep on the season and 26.5% from deep in the playoffs... that is not a max SF in today's NBA. It's just not.

It's not only 28% from deep, it's 28% on all jump shots. They just aren't going to give him the max with those shooting percentages.

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[ibraheim718]

https://youtu.be/0WZuFIIdHgE?si=io5TRexx3pOwUY_1

Bro do you know how easy it is to make this kind of video after the fact.

Here I'll counter with this video.

Watch on YouTube

franz is nowhere near dirk is. Sheesh.

Franz is more of Hedo than dirk.

You're going to expose yourself. I would stop.

Hedo 3rd year stats..

7 ppl 3 reb 1 assist

He's miles closer to Dirk than he is Hedo.

I seriously would drop this argument.

[thelead]

28% from deep on the season and 26.5% from deep in the playoffs... that is not a max SF in today's NBA. It's just not.

Let me ask you a question.. is Mika Bridges going to get a max contract? Not shouldn't or should.. do you think he's getting one?

No, I don't think he gets a max either... but Brooklyn is one of the worst run franchises, so maybe?

[ibraheim718]

28% from deep on the season and 26.5% from deep in the playoffs... that is not a max SF in today's NBA. It's just not.

He's still developing

That's a huge regression though... You can't pay someone for what you hope they will become when you have 79 games of data for this year.

You can't pay someone based on 3pt shooting. By your theory Cleveland shouldn't have paid LeBron because he shot 31% from 3 in year 4 and 5.

[Knightro]

The current cap information is based on the current media deals. When the league gets 5B richer, then in either 2025 or 2026, the cap will jump by 22-28% percent annually over what one sees on internet tables today.

Be very confident that agents know that quite well. So, when one says "The year after it's projecting to be over 170M", it actually could be at or above 200M. Without some cap "smoothing" by the league, something the players' union would fight against, there are going to be some totally ridiculous contracts in three-year's time.

I'm pretty sure the NBA and NBAPA have already agreed to 10% maximum increase in the salary cap year-by-year.

All parties want to avoid a repeat of what happened in the summer of 2016 when the cap spiked by like 35% in one fell swoop.

[thelead]

He's still developing

That's a huge regression though... You can't pay someone for what you hope they will become when you have 79 games of data for this year.

You can't pay someone based on 3pt shooting. By your theory Cleveland shouldn't have paid LeBron because he shot 31% from 3 in year 4 and 5.

He has no jumper at all right now though. He doesn't have a midrange game either. It's actually amazing how good he is on offense with the glaring holes in his game.

[ibraheim718]

28% from deep on the season and 26.5% from deep in the playoffs... that is not a max SF in today's NBA. It's just not.

Let me ask you a question.. is Mika Bridges going to get a max contract? Not shouldn't or should.. do you think he's getting one?

No, I don't think he gets a max either... but Brooklyn is one of the worst run franchises, so maybe?

You don't understand the teams pretty much have to pay these guys.. it's the money they've earned. Why don't you want Franz getting paid the money he's earned by being one of the key players in a run to the playoffs?

You and ownership just got a HUGE bargain from P5, Franz, and Suggs.

[fendilim]

Bro do you know how easy it is to make this kind of video after the fact.

Here I'll counter with this video.

Watch on YouTube

franz is nowhere near dirk is. Sheesh.

Franz is more of Hedo than dirk.

You're going to expose yourself. I would stop.

Hedo 3rd year stats..

7 ppl 3 reb 1 assist

He's miles closer to Dirk than he is Hedo.

I seriously would drop this argument.

he aint no dirk. Lol

Even hedo in his prime didnt get a max contract.

Dirk was already all nba 3rd team in his 3rd season.

Franz isn’t a max player, if he is offered the max, that’s gonna hurt the team in the long run. Near max maybe, but definitely not max level.

You don’t pay max to top option players easily rattled mentally, that’s already a red flag.

[ibraheim718]

That's a huge regression though... You can't pay someone for what you hope they will become when you have 79 games of data for this year.

You can't pay someone based on 3pt shooting. By your theory Cleveland shouldn't have paid LeBron because he shot 31% from 3 in year 4 and 5.

He has no jumper at all right now though. He doesn't have a midrange game either. It's actually amazing how good he is on offense with the glaring holes in his game.

You think that's what management is going to tell his agent?

[ibraheim718]

franz is nowhere near dirk is. Sheesh.

Franz is more of Hedo than dirk.

You're going to expose yourself. I would stop.

Hedo 3rd year stats..

7 ppl 3 reb 1 assist

He's miles closer to Dirk than he is Hedo.

I seriously would drop this argument.

he aint no dirk. Lol

Even hedo in his prime didnt get a max contract.

Dirk was already all nba 3rd team in his 3rd season.

Franz isn’t a max player, if he is offered the max, that’s gonna hurt the team in the long run. Near max maybe, but definitely not max level.

You don’t pay max to top option players easily rattled mentally, that’s already a red flag.

SEVEN, THREE, and ONE.

[basketballRob]

You can't pay someone based on 3pt shooting. By your theory Cleveland shouldn't have paid LeBron because he shot 31% from 3 in year 4 and 5.

He has no jumper at all right now though. He doesn't have a midrange game either. It's actually amazing how good he is on offense with the glaring holes in his game.

You think that's what management is going to tell his agent?

Yes.

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[ibraheim718]

franz is nowhere near dirk is. Sheesh.

Franz is more of Hedo than dirk.

You're going to expose yourself. I would stop.

Hedo 3rd year stats..

7 ppl 3 reb 1 assist

He's miles closer to Dirk than he is Hedo.

I seriously would drop this argument.

he aint no dirk. Lol

Even hedo in his prime didnt get a max contract.

Dirk was already all nba 3rd team in his 3rd season.

Franz isn’t a max player, if he is offered the max, that’s gonna hurt the team in the long run. Near max maybe, but definitely not max level.

You don’t pay max to top option players easily rattled mentally, that’s already a red flag.

You said he was more Hedo than Dirk which is asinine.

It'll hurt the team way more if he were to walk because you shortchanged him for no apparent reason.

Look at how many games he's started in his 3 year career.

Pay him.

[ibraheim718]

He has no jumper at all right now though. He doesn't have a midrange game either. It's actually amazing how good he is on offense with the glaring holes in his game.

You think that's what management is going to tell his agent?

Yes.

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You're going to lose that negotiation in like 2 seconds flat.

[fendilim]

28% from deep on the season and 26.5% from deep in the playoffs... that is not a max SF in today's NBA. It's just not.

Let me ask you a question.. is Mika Bridges going to get a max contract? Not shouldn't or should.. do you think he's getting one?

No, I don't think he gets a max either... but Brooklyn is one of the worst run franchises, so maybe?

Suns went to the finals right before Mikal signed the extension. Although the Suns came up short, Mikal showed up when it mattered.

[basketballRob]

You think that's what management is going to tell his agent?

Yes.

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You're going to lose that negotiation in like 2 seconds flat.

He didn't play well enough to get the max. Weltman will tell them that. Franz doesn't have to sign an extension.

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[drsd]

I'm pretty sure the NBA and NBAPA have already agreed to 10% maximum increase in the salary cap year-by-year.

You are correct. The new CBA that starts for this coming season has smoothing built in to the agreement. Nice catch!

Well: for the league to get up to it''s required ~28% bump, that means that not next year, but for the subsequent 4 or 5 years, there will be the max increase in the cap at 10%. (There are inflationary and other income jumps every year, to the cap, beyond just this one-off from the media deal) Indeed, the league is going to make a LOT of money from this, at the expense of what would have otherwise been players' salaries. I am not even sure the league can get to its requirements within the CBA, given how much new money is coming.
Let's see how that impacts the next CBA negotiations, up for the 2028 season.