Official Summer 2024 Magic Free Agency and Trade Ideas Thread 4.0

Post #821 » by **Knightro** » Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:03 am

zzaj wrote:On the Portland board we are trying to figure out how to make a Simons for Black swap. Any interest at all from Orlando fans?

Watch on YouTube

Not interested.

zzaj · Post #822 » by **zzaj** » Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:19 am

Haha, love it Knightro...

Thanks for the input!

thelead · Post #823 » by **thelead** » Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:23 am

How do you split up our $48 mil in cap space?

2 guards? 1 big + 1 guard?

Would people here be pissed if we did something like 4/90 for Monk and 4/90 for IHart?

I would love it considering we could still make a trade to upgrade the guard spot a bit more.

Or, would you all prefer something like 4/90 for Monk and 4/90 for DLo?

What's the preferred cap allocation?

Skybox · Post #824 » by **Skybox** » Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:29 am

zzaj wrote:On the Portland board we are trying to figure out how to make a Simons for Black swap. Any interest at all from Orlando fans?

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Darth Magic · Post #825 » by **Darth Magic** » Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:36 am

Knightro wrote:
zzaj wrote:On the Portland board we are trying to figure out how to make a Simons for Black swap. Any interest at all from Orlando fans?

Watch on YouTube

Not interested.

Yesterday

Post #826 » by **Knightro** » Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:36 am

zzaj wrote:Haha, love it Knightro...

Thanks for the input!

My apologies if that was too snarky.

The truth is, I don't even dislike Simons and I think his skill set offensively is certainly something this team is lacking.

But I can't trade Black, who is 10 months removed from being the 6th overall pick and showed very nice promise as both a defender and a catch-and-shoot player, for Simons.

It just doesn't work.

Post #827 » by **Knightro** » Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:36 am

Skybox wrote:
zzaj wrote:On the Portland board we are trying to figure out how to make a Simons for Black swap. Any interest at all from Orlando fans?

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Post #828 » by **Knightro** » Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:43 am

thelead wrote:How do you split up our $48 mil in cap space?

2 guards? 1 big + 1 guard?

Would people here be pissed if we did something like 4/90 for Monk and 4/90 for IHart?

I would love it considering we could still make a trade to upgrade the guard spot a bit more.

Or, would you all prefer something like 4/90 for Monk and 4/90 for DLo?

What's the preferred cap allocation?

It's impossible to say without knowing what the trade market - which theoretically will happen *before* free agency - will shake out.

Like if the Magic could trade for one of Atlanta's guards, then obviously Monk or Russell wouldn't be something that would happen.

My No. 1 target in free agency is Hartenstein. Then look to flip Carter for a guard.

But most of all, I really want them to swing a deal for a high end lead guard.

thelead · Post #829 » by **thelead** » Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:48 am

Knightro wrote:
thelead wrote:How do you split up our $48 mil in cap space?

2 guards? 1 big + 1 guard?

Would people here be pissed if we did something like 4/90 for Monk and 4/90 for IHart?

I would love it considering we could still make a trade to upgrade the guard spot a bit more.

Or, would you all prefer something like 4/90 for Monk and 4/90 for DLo?

What's the preferred cap allocation?

It's impossible to say without knowing what the trade market - which theoretically will happen *before* free agency - will shake out.

Like if the Magic could trade for one of Atlanta's guards, then obviously Monk or Russell wouldn't be something that would happen.

My No. 1 target in free agency is Hartenstein. Then look to flip Carter for a guard.

But most of all, I really want them to swing a deal for a high end lead guard.

We're in 100% agreement. IHart is my #1 target as well.

thelead · Post #830 » by **thelead** » Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:49 am

Skybox wrote:
zzaj wrote:On the Portland board we are trying to figure out how to make a Simons for Black swap. Any interest at all from Orlando fans?

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Audi · Post #831 » by **Audi** » Thu Apr 25, 2024 1:08 am

We need to figure out what is up with Cole. He went from bargain deal for a sixth man to barely playable in what seemed to be a single hair cut.

Viper1500 · Post #832 » by **Viper1500** » Thu Apr 25, 2024 1:22 am

zzaj wrote:On the Portland board we are trying to figure out how to make a Simons for Black swap. Any interest at all from Orlando fans?

I'd trade this years first + Denver first. Offensively he's great, but he is just so bad on the other end.

RichCollab · Post #833 » by **RichCollab** » Thu Apr 25, 2024 1:34 am

thelead wrote:How do you split up our $48 mil in cap space?

2 guards? 1 big + 1 guard?

Would people here be pissed if we did something like 4/90 for Monk and 4/90 for IHart?

I would love it considering we could still make a trade to upgrade the guard spot a bit more.

Or, would you all prefer something like 4/90 for Monk and 4/90 for DLo?

What's the preferred cap allocation?

1st tell me how you created that cap space.

Cole is getting paid 5 million more next season so moving on from Fultz and Harris gives us 25 million to spend.

thelead · Post #834 » by **thelead** » Thu Apr 25, 2024 1:38 am

RichCollab wrote:
thelead wrote:How do you split up our $48 mil in cap space?

2 guards? 1 big + 1 guard?

Would people here be pissed if we did something like 4/90 for Monk and 4/90 for IHart?

I would love it considering we could still make a trade to upgrade the guard spot a bit more.

Or, would you all prefer something like 4/90 for Monk and 4/90 for DLo?

What's the preferred cap allocation?

1st tell me how you created that cap space.

Cole is getting paid 5 million more next season so moving on from Fultz and Harris gives us 25 million to spend.

We're at ~104 mil WITH Ingles. You decline his team option and we're now at ~93 mil. The cap will be ~141 mil for next season. 141-93= 48 mil

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/ORL.html

RichCollab · Post #835 » by **RichCollab** » Thu Apr 25, 2024 1:39 am

RichCollab wrote:
thelead wrote:How do you split up our $48 mil in cap space?

2 guards? 1 big + 1 guard?

Would people here be pissed if we did something like 4/90 for Monk and 4/90 for IHart?

I would love it considering we could still make a trade to upgrade the guard spot a bit more.

Or, would you all prefer something like 4/90 for Monk and 4/90 for DLo?

What's the preferred cap allocation?

1st tell me how you created that cap space.

Cole is getting paid 5 million more next season so moving on from Fultz and Harris gives us 25 million to spend.

You can get to 44ish if you don’t pick up Moe and Ingles players options and let Harris and Fultz walk.

4 rotational players and almost all our vets.

RichCollab · Post #836 » by **RichCollab** » Thu Apr 25, 2024 1:41 am

thelead wrote:
RichCollab wrote:
thelead wrote:How do you split up our $48 mil in cap space?

2 guards? 1 big + 1 guard?

Would people here be pissed if we did something like 4/90 for Monk and 4/90 for IHart?

I would love it considering we could still make a trade to upgrade the guard spot a bit more.

Or, would you all prefer something like 4/90 for Monk and 4/90 for DLo?

What's the preferred cap allocation?

1st tell me how you created that cap space.

Cole is getting paid 5 million more next season so moving on from Fultz and Harris gives us 25 million to spend.

We're at ~104 mil WITH Ingles. You decline his team option and we're now at ~93 mil. The cap will be ~141 mil for next season. 141-93= 48 mil

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/ORL.html

Cole is getting 5 million more a year and 1st pick has a cap hold too.

thelead · Post #837 » by **thelead** » Thu Apr 25, 2024 1:45 am

RichCollab wrote:
thelead wrote:
RichCollab wrote:
1st tell me how you created that cap space.

Cole is getting paid 5 million more next season so moving on from Fultz and Harris gives us 25 million to spend.

We're at ~104 mil WITH Ingles. You decline his team option and we're now at ~93 mil. The cap will be ~141 mil for next season. 141-93= 48 mil

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/ORL.html

Cole is getting 5 million more a year and 1st pick has a cap hold too.

Cole's new contract is already included in the link above. You are correct about the pick though. If we hold onto it, you can subtract ~3.5 mil out of the 48 mil from what I see.

drsd · Post #838 » by **drsd** » Thu Apr 25, 2024 1:49 am

Skybox wrote:
zzaj wrote:On the Portland board we are trying to figure out how to make a Simons for Black swap. Any interest at all from Orlando fans?

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Oh my gosh would Magic management jump on that offer. If SImons can be had for that cheap, wow. Throw in Houstan as a parting gift???

thelead · Post #839 » by **thelead** » Thu Apr 25, 2024 1:50 am

drsd wrote:
Skybox wrote:
zzaj wrote:On the Portland board we are trying to figure out how to make a Simons for Black swap. Any interest at all from Orlando fans?

Quickest YES I can manufacture.

Oh my gosh would Magic management jump on that offer. If SImons can be had for that cheap, wow. Throw in Houstan as a parting gift???

RichCollab · Post #840 » by **RichCollab** » Thu Apr 25, 2024 1:50 am

thelead wrote:
RichCollab wrote:
thelead wrote:
We're at ~104 mil WITH Ingles. You decline his team option and we're now at ~93 mil. The cap will be ~141 mil for next season. 141-93= 48 mil

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/ORL.html

Cole is getting 5 million more a year and 1st pick has a cap hold too.

Cole's new contract is already included in the link above. You are correct about the pick though. If we hold onto it, you can subtract ~3.5 mil out of the 48 mil from what I see.

I find Sportrac a better tool for salary cap.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/orlando-magic/cap/_/year/2024/sort/cap_total