2023-2024 Regular Season Game 73: Los Angeles Clippers (45-27) at Orlando Magic (42-30) - 7pm

[Optimus_Steel]

I think us being ahead of schedule is causing people to forget that this is still an extremely young team going through typical growing pains.

At the end of the day, it's frustrating to watch, especially in a vacuum, but this is still the best season we've put together in over a decade and we're just at the beginning of it.

I'm watching every moment of this team, and I just think it's important to keep in mind the context before judging too harshly. Our best three players are still three to four years away from their prime. It's going to be rough, especially without a star-level veteran to guide the way. That will be the next move in the next two to three years.

A post that makes sense. Thank you. We are taking our lumps right now. Kawhi and Paul George took theirs around a decade ago.

[Knightro]

I think us being ahead of schedule is causing people to forget that this is still an extremely young team going through typical growing pains.

At the end of the day, it's frustrating to watch, especially in a vacuum, but this is still the best season we've put together in over a decade and we're just at the beginning of it.

I'm watching every moment of this team, and I just think it's important to keep in mind the context before judging too harshly. Our best three players are still three to four years away from their prime. It's going to be rough, especially without a star-level veteran to guide the way. That will be the next move in the next two to three years.

I think if their record was a little worse and they were fighting for like the 8 seed instead of potentially the 4 seed, the outrage on a night-to-night basis would be much less severe.

[SOUL]

LeBron only had 41 wins in his 2nd year!! Paolo > LeBron

[KillMonger]

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Wanted to preserve a timeout to draw up a play for one of the worst 3 point shooters on the team in recent weeks....make it make sense

[eyriq]

Mosley letting flow dictate his rotations but not inform his game preparation is wild to me

Mosley not checking the sweater vest thread for lineups is wild to ME

I actually agree with you here.

[SOUL]

Wanted to preserve a timeout to draw up a play for the worst 3 point shooters on the team in recent weeks....make it make sense

You guys do realize that who the ball goes to isn't always the first option? Hell, probably not the second either.. which is why you want extra timeouts at the end. We had 1 and they covered it well.

I do agree we should've challenged though. Video assistant have the ipads and could've helped but didnt want to.

[byeganyo]

Wanting to play Harris, Caleb, or Fultz over AB is wild to me. A. They suck, B. They aren't the future, C. We aren't in win-now mode and if we were they wouldn't be here, because they suck

Caleb is clearly a better shooter than AB and they are the same age. Frankly if we have to bet on something right now a player with Houstan profile is more likely to have a longer career than Black, so he is as much the futur as AB. Harris is clearly a better and more experienced player right now too.

Caleb is over 1 year older than Black.

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Over one year where the "over" is 10 days?:D There is one year difference, which means something of course, but they are in the same age category. And btw i like Black, but those unrealistic epxectations about him to be a game chngaer right now are killing me.

[basketballRob]

Black has also been better than Caleb this season.

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[basketballRob]

Caleb is clearly a better shooter than AB and they are the same age. Frankly if we have to bet on something right now a player with Houstan profile is more likely to have a longer career than Black, so he is as much the futur as AB. Harris is clearly a better and more experienced player right now too.

Caleb is over 1 year older than Black.

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Over one year where the "over" is 10 days?:D There is one year difference, which means something of course, but they are in the same age category. And btw i like Black, but those unrealistic epxectations about him to be a game chngaer right now are killing me.

Okay, dude, you said they were the same age. Black also has a far better net rating and epm.

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[Rainwater]

Barring some craziness the Magic will not be in the playins lol

[eyriq]

Caleb is clearly a better shooter than AB and they are the same age. Frankly if we have to bet on something right now a player with Houstan profile is more likely to have a longer career than Black, so he is as much the futur as AB. Harris is clearly a better and more experienced player right now too.

Uhm, AB has a better shooting percentage from 3 and does everything else better as well. But ok

STOP SKEWING STATS - Black has made 35 threes the whole year - 35!! In 1257 minutes. or one 3pt every 35 minutes.
Caleb has 68 in 770 minutes. or one 3pt every 11 minutes.

Who gives a **** about the shooting % when Black barely shoots?

And you can pull some advanced stats if you want - Caleb has a higher WS48, higher VORP, higher BPM and so on Those are your usual arguments for Black, right?

Caleb's a year older (basketballrob ftw) and has a lower PER. AB clears Caleb in more advanced stats than not, and isn't a one trick pony.

[byeganyo]

Caleb is over 1 year older than Black.

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Over one year where the "over" is 10 days?:D There is one year difference, which means something of course, but they are in the same age category. And btw i like Black, but those unrealistic epxectations about him to be a game chngaer right now are killing me.

Okay, dude, you said they were the same age. Black also has a far better net rating and epm.

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Some advanced stats favour Black, other Caleb, if are going to do a cherry picking it's fine by me.

Claiming that one of them suck and has no future here is insane and this is what eyriq has beend doing.

[basketballRob]

Uhm, AB has a better shooting percentage from 3 and does everything else better as well. But ok

STOP SKEWING STATS - Black has made 35 threes the whole year - 35!! In 1257 minutes. or one 3pt every 35 minutes.
Caleb has 68 in 770 minutes. or one 3pt every 11 minutes.

Who gives a **** about the shooting % when Black barely shoots?

And you can pull some advanced stats if you want - Caleb has a higher WS48, higher VORP, higher BPM and so on Those are your usual arguments for Black, right?

Caleb's a year older (basketballrob ftw) and has a lower PER. AB clears Caleb in more advanced stats than not, and isn't a one trick pony.

AB has a -0.5 net rating, and Caleb was -5.5 his rookie season and -3.3 this season.

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[basketballRob]

Over one year where the "over" is 10 days?:D There is one year difference, which means something of course, but they are in the same age category. And btw i like Black, but those unrealistic epxectations about him to be a game chngaer right now are killing me.

Okay, dude, you said they were the same age. Black also has a far better net rating and epm.

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Some advanced stats favour Black, other Caleb, if are going to do a cherry picking it's fine by me.

Claiming that one of them suck and has no future here is insane and this is what eyriq has beend doing.

You are the only one saying one sucked.

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[SOUL]

What's funny about the Celtics and Magic boards is that they are by far the most talented offensive team and they're complaining about late game execution and we have one of the worst and are complaining about late game execution. Just goes to show how hard it is to get great looks.

Kawhi was getting TOUGH buckets that we would call bad contested shots.

[ogmagicfan]

I don't get the Gary Harris hate, he's been playing pretty good basketball the last 2 months or so on both sides.

probably stems from reliability....same issue with fultz and wendell to a lesser extent

Yeah, this is it. He's unreliable. Also, he's a low end roleplayer on an expiring contract blocking AB and Jett.

The reliability is valid, but AB is undoubtably rougher around the edges.

I'd want Black starting when Harris is out, but it isnt like we havent gotten a good look at what Black is capable of at this point. He still has alot of growing up to do, and has shown growth this season.

But its unquestionable that Harris is a better fit in the starting lineup, and depending on how free agency goes he might just be back next yr

[eyriq]

Okay, dude, you said they were the same age. Black also has a far better net rating and epm.

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Some advanced stats favour Black, other Caleb, if are going to do a cherry picking it's fine by me.

Claiming that one of them suck and has no future here is insane and this is what eyriq has beend doing.

You are the only one saying one sucked.

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Eh, I think Caleb sucks

[Optimus_Steel]

Barring some craziness the Magic will not be in the playins lol

Just beat two of Indy/Mia/Philly who we are hard of.

[byeganyo]

Uhm, AB has a better shooting percentage from 3 and does everything else better as well. But ok

STOP SKEWING STATS - Black has made 35 threes the whole year - 35!! In 1257 minutes. or one 3pt every 35 minutes.
Caleb has 68 in 770 minutes. or one 3pt every 11 minutes.

Who gives a **** about the shooting % when Black barely shoots?

And you can pull some advanced stats if you want - Caleb has a higher WS48, higher VORP, higher BPM and so on Those are your usual arguments for Black, right?

Caleb's a year older (basketballrob ftw) and has a lower PER. AB clears Caleb in more advanced stats than not, and isn't a one trick pony.

You can pick whatever stats fit your narrative, but s hitting on players from the team just because someone you like doesnt play is annoying behavior, especially when is someone who really is not impactuful right now.

[KillMonger]

Wanted to preserve a timeout to draw up a play for the worst 3 point shooters on the team in recent weeks....make it make sense

You guys do realize that who the ball goes to isn't always the first option? Hell, probably not the second either.. which is why you want extra timeouts at the end. We had 1 and they covered it well.

I do agree we should've challenged though. Video assistant have the ipads and could've helped but didnt want to.

i was curious so i watched it back, yeah franz wasn't the intended target, the play was so poorly executed i have to guess that maybe paolo was the target...although credit to clippers defense they read the room and chose when to switch everything and this possession was the perfect time to do so