Cavaliers vs Magic Series General Discussion Thread

[eyriq]

So this scenario is really just nonsense and being paranoid.

Just saying "ok Fultz and Harris are out, Black and Jett are in" and expecting the internal improvement from Paolo, Franz and Suggs to just carry them to 50+ wins ain't it.

the Magic will have to spend 19million regardless.

Sure, but they could spend that money on a center and not address the backcourt at all.

*nods vigorously* this is the way

[JBSouthpaw]

So this scenario is really just nonsense and being paranoid.
the Magic will have to spend 19million regardless.

Sure, but they could spend that money on a center and not address the backcourt at all.

*nods vigorously* this is the way

we have 2 centers under contract for next year. We won't be spending our FA Money on that position unless there is a subtraction.

AB & Jett enter into backup minutes, still bring in a guard to pair with Suggs.

[RookieStar]

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This could be his Tyshaun Prince moment when DET unleashed him against Tmac. We unleash him against Garland.

Who cares about his offense. Its not like Gary contributed points in the scoreboard anyway. He just needs to do what Gary did in defending the heck out of their backcourt players.

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Honestly, I can see him getting some minutes, but as starter? Might be too much of a risk for a do or die game.

Damn you do, damn you don’t. Mosley will look like a genius if he starts Black and we win. If Black fails to impress, we’ll see “fire Mosley”. Lol

And starting Fultz who have not been able to defend well in this series is not risky? We also can’t throw Caleb or Chuma in the starting lineup either. We didn’t give them enough reps to do anything. AB is the only player that would at least be comfortable with the starting unit. He would give us defense without offense, same as Gary. Plus, he need the experience as well. I am unsure why the coach think it is smart to let him experience playoff minutes next season-if we make it in next season-instead of now when the opportunity presents itself. He can get the jitters out of the way.

Playing Black is more risky than the other players you mentioned. Because he has a little experience and isn’t built to play physical ball yet.

I wouldnt be surprised if he becomes the point of attack like how the Cavs attacked Cole Anthony.

Plus Black doesn’t really spread the court for us. Unlike Gary who opponents still have to respect as a shooter. Or Fultz who can at least get to where he wants to go on offense

[KillMonger]

Honestly, I can see him getting some minutes, but as starter? Might be too much of a risk for a do or die game.

Damn you do, damn you don’t. Mosley will look like a genius if he starts Black and we win. If Black fails to impress, we’ll see “fire Mosley”. Lol

And starting Fultz who have not been able to defend well in this series is not risky? We also can’t throw Caleb or Chuma in the starting lineup either. We didn’t give them enough reps to do anything. AB is the only player that would at least be comfortable with the starting unit. He would give us defense without offense, same as Gary. Plus, he need the experience as well. I am unsure why the coach think it is smart to let him experience playoff minutes next season-if we make it in next season-instead of now when the opportunity presents itself. He can get the jitters out of the way.

Playing Black is more risky than the other players you mentioned. Because he has a little experience and isn’t built to play physical ball yet.

I wouldnt be surprised if he becomes the point of attack like how the Cavs attacked Cole Anthony.

Plus Black doesn’t really spread the court for us. Unlike Gary who opponents still have to respect as a shooter. Or Fultz who can at least get to where he wants to go on offense

If Gary can't go I think it should be black, poa defense is so important....gary has been solid defensively.... Fultz has really not he's been getting absolutely cooked.... I mean flame broiled on defense he can't guard anybody he absolutely dies on any screen.... Black is a much better defender than Fultz but we all know that mose isn't staring Fultz or black it's going to be Caleb

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[CocoaFan]

And starting Fultz who have not been able to defend well in this series is not risky? We also can’t throw Caleb or Chuma in the starting lineup either. We didn’t give them enough reps to do anything. AB is the only player that would at least be comfortable with the starting unit. He would give us defense without offense, same as Gary. Plus, he need the experience as well. I am unsure why the coach think it is smart to let him experience playoff minutes next season-if we make it in next season-instead of now when the opportunity presents itself. He can get the jitters out of the way.

Playing Black is more risky than the other players you mentioned. Because he has a little experience and isn’t built to play physical ball yet.

I wouldnt be surprised if he becomes the point of attack like how the Cavs attacked Cole Anthony.

Plus Black doesn’t really spread the court for us. Unlike Gary who opponents still have to respect as a shooter. Or Fultz who can at least get to where he wants to go on offense

If Gary can't go I think it should be black, poa defense is so important....gary has been solid defensively.... Fultz has really not he's been getting absolutely cooked.... I mean flame broiled on defense he can't guard anybody he absolutely dies on any screen.... Black is a much better defender than Fultz but we all know that mose isn't staring Fultz or black it's going to be Caleb

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Caleb would be a huge coaching mistake. Talk about getting cooked. Stopping their guards is priority 1. They need to give Black a shot. If it doesn't work go back to Fultz.

[eyriq]

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[eyriq]

Oh Lord, these don't tend to end well for us.

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[KillMonger]

Playing Black is more risky than the other players you mentioned. Because he has a little experience and isn’t built to play physical ball yet.

I wouldnt be surprised if he becomes the point of attack like how the Cavs attacked Cole Anthony.

Plus Black doesn’t really spread the court for us. Unlike Gary who opponents still have to respect as a shooter. Or Fultz who can at least get to where he wants to go on offense

If Gary can't go I think it should be black, poa defense is so important....gary has been solid defensively.... Fultz has really not he's been getting absolutely cooked.... I mean flame broiled on defense he can't guard anybody he absolutely dies on any screen.... Black is a much better defender than Fultz but we all know that mose isn't staring Fultz or black it's going to be Caleb

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Caleb would be a huge coaching mistake. Talk about getting cooked. Stopping their guards is priority 1. They need to give Black a shot. If it doesn't work go back to Fultz.

With certain situations mose doesn't operate with logic, he operates on trust.....bottom line he doesn't trust AB enough......but the thing i don't understand is.....why not involve the players that will actually be here going forward? AB as of now is going to be apart of the future and these are the kind of minutes he needs but he's giving way to a player that is probably not going to be here going forward and based off his play not really helping you on the court.....you need a solid defender on either mitchell and garland.....AB has proved to be at the very least as solid on that end as Gary harris but he has more size and length....it's a no brainer to me....but time and time again whenever you'd think there is a situation where AB should play somehow mose decides to play Caleb instead who is at best an average defender...it's just what Mose does....the best we can hope for is somehow gary is good to go by Friday

[KillMonger]

our "current" guard group this series....i can understand one player maybe two....but all 4? 2 starters 2 rotation players....unacceptable

[ORLMagicGirl15]

Oh Lord, these didn't tend to end well for us.

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Orlando Magic please show up this game so people can actually see your talent.

[Blue_and_Whte]

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This could be his Tyshaun Prince moment when DET unleashed him against Tmac. We unleash him against Garland.

Who cares about his offense. Its not like Gary contributed points in the scoreboard anyway. He just needs to do what Gary did in defending the heck out of their backcourt players.

Correct. At this point he can’t be any worse offensively than Gary, Fultz, and Cole have been.

[UCFJayBird]

The lack of AB the entire back half of the season has been a bit baffling given he's a pretty good defender and his shooting has been surprisingly efficient. He doesn't have a quick trigger and he's not great at running the offense yet (lacks confidence, looks lost at times), but he's shown he can hit the open shots fairly consistently. I get his decision making is probably the biggest concern being a rook, but the team played really well with him in the SL. i don't know if i've really ever seen him on the floor and we're all falling over ourselves at how bad he's playing like we do Fultz every other game.

Not sure what Mosely's concerns are TBH. I'm sure he has his reasons, and they may very well be valid, but I would love it if at some point we'd get an actual reason.

[drsd]

I get his decision making is probably the biggest concern being a rook, but the team played really well with him in the SL..

I think there is too much memory of this:

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[magik9113]

I get his decision making is probably the biggest concern being a rook, but the team played really well with him in the SL..

I think there is too much memory of this:

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Spoiler:

And yes it was goal-tending!

Too soon, brother. Too soon

[p0peye]

I get his decision making is probably the biggest concern being a rook, but the team played really well with him in the SL..

I think there is too much memory of this:

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And yes it was goal-tending!

Man, Hedo was great for us in 2009 playoffs. That block from behind on Kobe and then lob pass to Lee for layup...

[Nyce_1]

We're about to get Game 6 Caleb.

[UCFJayBird]

We're about to get Game 6 Caleb.

Give him two shots. if he misses both, pull him, lol. He's too streaky to leave in there if he doesn't start well

[Audi]

We're about to get Game 6 Caleb.

Give him two shots. if he misses both, pull him, lol. He's too streaky to leave in there if he doesn't start well

This should be the standard operating procedure for all of our non-core players.

[UCFJayBird]

We're about to get Game 6 Caleb.

Give him two shots. if he misses both, pull him, lol. He's too streaky to leave in there if he doesn't start well

This should be the standard operating procedure for all of our non-core players.

On a more serious take on this: I 100% understand why coaches don't do this in real game situations, lol. If your players are afraid they'll be pulled out of the game for missing a few shots, it's just going to mess with their head and nerves and make them worse. You have to balance showing trust in them to pull out of it and make shots, even if you don't.

Having said that, this is the playoffs and I'd care a little less about Caleb's feelings in an elimination game.