Knightro wrote:MagicMatic wrote:I said it before the season and I say it now…
Gary Harris since leaving Denver has been nothing but a role player off the bench. He’s never been anything more. You can’t be a starter in the league if you aren’t attempting shots. Yes he provides good defense. Yes he shows up every 1/5 in the box score. That doesn’t make him a starter.
It’s also telling that Mosely would rather have started Suggs and low volume Gary than Fultz or Cole. Defense matters to Mosely. Floor spacing does too. Orlando needs to get rid of these guys that don’t shoot either at all of on regular volume. Like I said in the other threads… As much as I love Suggs he is not a point guard. He isn’t running an offense or creating off the dribble like one. Orlando needs to get rid of Fultz, G.Harris, Okeke, etc. and bring in a point guard that can compliment the core.
At this point I’d probably get rid of Isaac for the right price too. Sorry, you aren’t giving this team much if you are worth more on the market than in 8 min stretches every other game and basically a no show in the playoffs. Doesn’t matter if you are an elite defender. This team is fine defensively in the starting unit without him. They need guys that can score the basketball.
Regardless of Gary's ability at this point, we're talking pure math here.
It doesn't really matter how good or bad a player is. If they touch the basketball 15 times a game, they're not going to average very many shots.
Until some of the ball movement issues are addressed, which almost certainly is going to at the very least require the Magic to bring in an actual point guard, you're going to see a low volume 3PT team among other things.
Yeah that’s kinda the point though…
If your only contribution to the offense is shooting it in the 15 times a game you actually touch the basketball, then I would 100% rather have a point guard running an offense replace you. Ball movement is the problem with both Gary and Fultz. On one hand you have a guy touching the ball 15 times as a catch and shoot and on the other a guy that is entirely a liability limiting what can be run, for lack of shooting, due to his efficiency being limited to him needing the ball in his hands at all times for anything to matter.
Both are categorically role players off the bench. You can’t be anything otherwise if you legitimately aren’t a two way player, streaky, or have massive flaws to your game.
It's such a fundamental big-man skill. WCJ isn't awful, but we've watched otherwise fundamentally sound Vuc, then Bamba just roll before even making any contact...with our ballhandling forwards, a good solid pick-setter would be a big deal...on the good side, it does seem like something that could be emphasized and taught. You'd think Mo, in particular, would relish a good pick - even if just as a trademark "skill" to keep him in the league as a role player with attention to detail (like he does with taking charges).
