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Posted: Fri Feb 1, 2008 9:53 pm
by Typhoon20
prorl wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Like i said, for Mem it was easier to make the trade with LA than us. Brown took a big chunk of that salary by himself in order to make the salaries work. We would have had to include more players and contracts to get the deal done thus harder and more work. Mem just went with the simple salary dump
You're just not getting it.
Posted: Fri Feb 1, 2008 9:57 pm
by Optimus_Steel
Typhoon20 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
You're just not getting it.
You are the one not getting it. Put some glasses on maybe ur not reading right.
BTW, im not saying that Mem couldnt have gotten more from another team, i think its obvious that they could have but looks like Mem has an agenda and they want to clear salary as cleanly and thinly as possible. I think that all comes from ownership.
Posted: Fri Feb 1, 2008 10:02 pm
by Driguez
Guys, really.... who cares? read this: WE DIDNT GET HIM, HES A LAKER NOW! its obvious we dont know if otis did try to trade for him or not.... so please stop the what ifs... geez how i hate that....
Posted: Fri Feb 1, 2008 10:05 pm
by mhectorgato
prorl wrote:You are the one not getting it. Put some glasses on maybe ur not reading right.
BTW, im not saying that Mem couldnt have gotten more from another team, i think its obvious that they could have but looks like Mem has an agenda and they want to clear salary as cleanly and thinly as possible. I think that all comes from ownership.
You are the one not getting it.
If there's something that we don't understand because of not knowing the details .... it HAS to be a conspiracy! There's no other logical explination.
As well as the given that Otis did nothing to even attempt a deal and is a pure moron.
That should be in green
Posted: Fri Feb 1, 2008 10:13 pm
by Optimus_Steel
mhectorgato wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
You are the one not getting it.
If there's something that we don't understand because of not knowing the details .... it HAS to be a conspiracy! There's no other logical explination.
As well as the given that Otis did nothing to even attempt a deal and is a pure moron.
That should be in green
Posted: Fri Feb 1, 2008 10:16 pm
by EasternMagic
Im a pheonix fan as it is (second fav team behind magic) this trade makes me hate the lakers even more
Posted: Fri Feb 1, 2008 10:17 pm
by Typhoon20
prorl wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
You are the one not getting it. Put some glasses on maybe ur not reading right.
BTW, im not saying that Mem couldnt have gotten more from another team, i think its obvious that they could have but looks like Mem has an agenda and they want to clear salary as cleanly and thinly as possible. I think that all comes from ownership.
If you WERE reading it right, you wouldn't have stuck up on the salary cap part.
Here's a question for you, imagine Dwight wants out because he's having some personal problems with our front office,
in return Otis announces he's not looking for a superstar in return, just expirings AND top draft picks.
2 teams make you an offer.
The first team offers you expirings plus 2 1st round draft picks.
Because that team is a championship contender you'll get a draft pick between 25 and 30.
The second team offers you expirings plus 2 1st round draft picks. But that team isn't very good and does bad in the standings, in return the picks will be TOP 10 worthy, the first season they'll most likely get a top 3 pick.
Which one would you accept ?
Posted: Fri Feb 1, 2008 10:17 pm
by EasternMagic
dont you guys thins its funny the grizz traded a gasol for a gasol?
Posted: Fri Feb 1, 2008 10:20 pm
by mhectorgato
Typhoon20 wrote:If you WERE reading it right, you wouldn't have stuck up on the salary cap part.
Here's a question for you, imagine Dwight wants out because he's having some personal problems with our front office,
in return Otis announces he's not looking for a superstar in return, just expirings AND top draft picks.
2 teams make you an offer.
The first team offers you expirings plus 2 1st round draft picks.
Because that team is a championship contender you'll get a draft pick between 25 and 30.
The second team offers you expirings plus 2 1st round draft picks. But that team isn't very good and does bad in the standings, in return the picks will be TOP 10 worthy, the first season they'll most likely get a top 3 pick.
Which one would you accept ?
I wonder which McHale would accept?
Except KG >>>> Pow.
Posted: Fri Feb 1, 2008 10:24 pm
by Optimus_Steel
Typhoon20 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
If you WERE reading it right, you wouldn't have stuck up on the salary cap part.
Here's a question for you, imagine Dwight wants out because he's having some personal problems with our front office,
in return Otis announces he's not looking for a superstar in return, just expirings AND top draft picks.
2 teams make you an offer.
The first team offers you expirings plus 2 1st round draft picks.
Because that team is a championship contender you'll get a draft pick between 25 and 30.
The second team offers you expirings plus 2 1st round draft picks. But that team isn't very good and does bad in the standings, in return the picks will be TOP 10 worthy, the first season they'll most likely get a top 3 pick.
Which one would you accept ?
LOL stop thinking so much, ur just confusing yourself. First of all you dont know what other teams were offering. You dont know if Mem talked to others team or just made a deal with the first team that picked up the phone. For all we know LA might have been the only team offering 2 draft picks, so all you said is a moot point. What looks certain is that they wanted salary relief. This deal reaks of salary reduction pushed on by their ownership.
Posted: Fri Feb 1, 2008 10:30 pm
by Happyfoosball
Typhoon20 wrote:This has nothing to do with Otis.
We're just not exciting enough for Stern.
They want a Boston vs Lakers final, they'll get it, by all means necessary.
I honestly feel that way sometimes. How does Boston end up with KG, Ray Allen in one offseason without giving up any major peices? I mean seriously. Then this **** happens. This trade was totally lopsided.
Posted: Fri Feb 1, 2008 10:34 pm
by inmate347
Arroyo, Garrity, and Dooling for Gasol works. We could have thrown in some of the international players we've been stockpiling. The front office isn't very good at scouting for draft picks anyway, so the picks aren't much to give up. Otis better have something good in the works or we just lost out on the piece that would have made the Magic championship contenders.
Could Hedo or Lewis play shooting guard? If neither can, it seems that is the only reason we wouldn't make this trade. Sure they would occasionally get lit up by the quicker off guards, but is that really much of a change from what we have now? Besides, they'd have two seven footers backing them up in the paint with Gasol here.
Posted: Fri Feb 1, 2008 10:43 pm
by happypedro12
Yea if i would've known we could've gotten Paul Gasol for Carlos arroyo and a bag of Sunchips I would've made the trade too. Situations like that I think are just like being in a frat. LA lakers have pull with almost every team just because they are the lakers, there are lots of connections with them. this would never happen with a small market team. oh well, at least they are in the west
Posted: Fri Feb 1, 2008 10:44 pm
by happypedro12
I honestly feel that way sometimes. How does Boston end up with KG, Ray Allen in one offseason without giving up any major peices? I mean seriously. Then this **** happens. This trade was totally lopsided.
Pro sports are rigged and with basketball you can really see it. Like i just said, there's no way either of the boston or LA trades would've happened with some small market team like memphis or Miluakee (spellin)
Posted: Fri Feb 1, 2008 10:49 pm
by AdamTheGreek
magicman123 wrote:four words, otis:..... "i like our team"
Posted: Fri Feb 1, 2008 10:52 pm
by magicfan4life05
wheres our man dctdre? he had some awesome actual quotes from otis about "this team" that were hilaroius..
Posted: Fri Feb 1, 2008 10:56 pm
by Big Aaron
Otisiah has really screwed us over for the last time. Thing is, all the time we're doing reasonably well (not as well as we should be doing), he'll have a job.
It's sickening now.
Posted: Fri Feb 1, 2008 11:15 pm
by mhectorgato
inmate347 wrote:Arroyo, Garrity, and Dooling for Gasol works. We could have thrown in some of the international players we've been stockpiling. The front office isn't very good at scouting for draft picks anyway, so the picks aren't much to give up. Otis better have something good in the works or we just lost out on the piece that would have made the Magic championship contenders.
Could Hedo or Lewis play shooting guard? If neither can, it seems that is the only reason we wouldn't make this trade. Sure they would occasionally get lit up by the quicker off guards, but is that really much of a change from what we have now? Besides, they'd have two seven footers backing them up in the paint with Gasol here.
Who's our backup PG to Jameer?
When Jameer is out, who is our PG? and backup PG?
Think of the big picture.
Posted: Fri Feb 1, 2008 11:16 pm
by mhectorgato
Big Aaron wrote:Otisiah has really screwed us over for the last time. Thing is, all the time we're doing reasonably well (not as well as we should be doing), he'll have a job.
It's sickening now.
Oti$ is overpaid!!!!
Posted: Fri Feb 1, 2008 11:47 pm
by inmate347
Can that d-league point guard that keeps tearing it up be any worse than arroyo? If the Magic can't deal their expirings, we should just cut them and sign that guy.